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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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I wonder, instead of defenestrating him, wouldn't a more karmic fate for Henry have him been for Miranda to throw him into one of his own Huskification tubes? Being thrown out of that window really did let him get off too easy.

Particularly as we know kids were sent to Sanctuary.

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Sifr1449 wrote...

I wonder, instead of defenestrating him, wouldn't a more karmic fate for Henry have him been for Miranda to throw him into one of his own Huskification tubes? Being thrown out of that window really did let him get off too easy.

Particularly as we know kids were sent to Sanctuary.


Nah, cuz then if you chose synthesis, he's still alive, just as a sentient husk.

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I would have had the camp active and handed him to the inmates.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Come to think of it, Where is Miranda from? Is she earth'born' or...?


I would presume that she is from Australia, hence the Australian accent.

I did a little shpeel on this a few pages ago on her accent. Miranda has a distinctly refined North Sydney accent. It's actually the definitive Australian accent. Like the Midwestern accent here in the US is the most common accent. Yvonne has a variant of it, a Western Sydney or Victoria accent. It's like differentiating an Ohio accent from a Chicago accent. 

As for Oriana, I just headcanon that she was adopted by an offworld Australian couple.

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I believe fiendishchicken is right with the type of Australian accent Miranda has. I also had just assumed she was born(made) in Australia and that her sister was adopted by off worlders hence her having a more american/canadian accent.
I dont remember off the top of my head but did Henry have an accent?

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Take Henry prisoner and put him to work. The Alliance or whatever other tribunal will decide what happens to him after the war. He isolated the signal that the Reapers use to control the Husks, creating a countermeasure that can jam or otherwise impair that signal would have saved Hammer a lot of trouble.

Besides, nothing says quality time like a father/daughter science project.

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I didn't mind Miranda throwing him out the window, but...

I would have loves a situation where you either save Miranda and Ori or chase down Henry. Saving Miranda and Ori results in a cutscene of Henry running into his Reaper Monstrosities who violently murder him.

Feel like that would have been a better end to him.

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The Lawson encounter was pitiful in my opinion, mostly due to the pathetic portrayal of the man himself.

The Lawson we were promised should've been too dangerous to keep alive and nigh impossible to kill (though we would've managed in the end).

I like the idea and justice of leaving him to his creations but we already did that with Jacob's dad. It loses its edge if you've already done it.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

The Lawson encounter was pitiful in my opinion, mostly due to the pathetic portrayal of the man himself.

The Lawson we were promised should've been too dangerous to keep alive and nigh impossible to kill (though we would've managed in the end).

I like the idea and justice of leaving him to his creations but we already did that with Jacob's dad. It loses its edge if you've already done it.


That was an optional thing though.

Plus, it might sound the same on paper but they could be exicuted very differently.

I also would have found it interesting if he was still building his Dynasty and they could have been a boss fight for the level.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...
That was an optional thing though.

Plus, it might sound the same on paper but they could be exicuted very differently.

I also would have found it interesting if he was still building his Dynasty and they could have been a boss fight for the level.

I don't mean that you or any specific person necessarily picked that choice. But it was already done in the story, so doing it again wouldn't have the same impact, even if you changed a few details.

And nearly anything would've been better than what we got.

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I would like to have a boss fight against several Miranda clones (of course, with Miranda as squadmate).

And getting a scene showing failed projects, like the one from Aliens resurrection.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

The Lawson encounter was pitiful in my opinion, mostly due to the pathetic portrayal of the man himself.

The Lawson we were promised should've been too dangerous to keep alive and nigh impossible to kill (though we would've managed in the end).


I was hoping for someone akin to Lionel Luthor from Smallville but there's not enough interaction with Henry considering the buildup he got in ME2.

Sanctuary's big problem is that is just tells us what happened rather than actually showing us what's going on. What should be terrifying or even sickening is just a boring mission that pads the third act.

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Skullheart wrote...

I would like to have a boss fight against several Miranda clones (of course, with Miranda as squadmate).

And getting a scene showing failed projects, like the one from Aliens resurrection.


FAILED Miranda clones. Like, relativly similar but very diverse, similar to Ori compared to Miranda.

Though, I suppose it might become similar to Shialla in ME1.

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Ares91 wrote...

I believe fiendishchicken is right with the type of Australian accent Miranda has. I also had just assumed she was born(made) in Australia and that her sister was adopted by off worlders hence her having a more american/canadian accent.
I dont remember off the top of my head but did Henry have an accent?


Alan Dale did use his natural accent for Henry Lawson, but since his gruff voice overshadows his Australian lilt, you could be forgiven for thinking it's not too different from how he sounds when he does a British or American accent.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

I know they change the name. I think it was Polish or something before they changed to Lawson.


Norwegian, actually.

Anyways, It could make sense for the above reasons. Miranda picked up the accent from her time at Cerberus, when she want through the identity change stuff, so Henry and Ori didn't have to have the same accent. Fridge Brilliance.


She was ~14-16 when she joined Cerberus. It would be awkward and just... Strange for somebody to abandon their former way of speaking, especially when it's consistent with his/her "parentage".

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o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I know they change the name. I think it was Polish or something before they changed to Lawson.


Norwegian, actually.


Anyways, It could make sense for the above reasons. Miranda picked up the accent from her time at Cerberus, when she want through the identity change stuff, so Henry and Ori didn't have to have the same accent. Fridge Brilliance.


She was ~14-16 when she joined Cerberus. It would be awkward and just... Strange for somebody to abandon their former way of speaking, especially when it's consistent with his/her "parentage".


Ehhh...I've met people who've moved to London in their 20s and then returned with an accent. Hear people talking a certain way enough and you'll unconciously start immitating them.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I know they change the name. I think it was Polish or something before they changed to Lawson.


Norwegian, actually.


Anyways, It could make sense for the above reasons. Miranda picked up the accent from her time at Cerberus, when she want through the identity change stuff, so Henry and Ori didn't have to have the same accent. Fridge Brilliance.


She was ~14-16 when she joined Cerberus. It would be awkward and just... Strange for somebody to abandon their former way of speaking, especially when it's consistent with his/her "parentage".


Ehhh...I've met people who've moved to London in their 20s and then returned with an accent. Hear people talking a certain way enough and you'll unconciously start immitating them.


Very true. In fact, I can accidentally pick up the local accent in a matter of minutes, which people wonder if I'm taking the mick, before I realise I'm doing it.

Due to my parents having lived in most of the the South/South West region of England, my accent doesn't really stay fluid at any given time and just tends to wander from word to word.

Accents aren't consistent or definitive, so I could see Miranda losing her accent slowly and possibly making a conscious effort to try to retain it.

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CrutchCricket wrote...
The Lawson we were promised should've been too dangerous to keep alive and nigh impossible to kill (though we would've managed in the end).


I feel like the concept of the encounter should have been Henry defending himself via his science/research. Controlling some of his creations, or husks, maybe using indoctrination. Would have been fitting imo.

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Sifr1449 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I know they change the name. I think it was Polish or something before they changed to Lawson.


Norwegian, actually.


Anyways, It could make sense for the above reasons. Miranda picked up the accent from her time at Cerberus, when she want through the identity change stuff, so Henry and Ori didn't have to have the same accent. Fridge Brilliance.


She was ~14-16 when she joined Cerberus. It would be awkward and just... Strange for somebody to abandon their former way of speaking, especially when it's consistent with his/her "parentage".


Ehhh...I've met people who've moved to London in their 20s and then returned with an accent. Hear people talking a certain way enough and you'll unconciously start immitating them.


Very true. In fact, I can accidentally pick up the local accent in a matter of minutes, which people wonder if I'm taking the mick, before I realise I'm doing it.

Due to my parents having lived in most of the the South/South West region of England, my accent doesn't really stay fluid at any given time and just tends to wander from word to word.

Accents aren't consistent or definitive, so I could see Miranda losing her accent slowly and possibly making a conscious effort to try to retain it.


I'm the same, since my parents and I were moving all over the world (2 years in England and a year in Australia) for their jobs (Both were in the US Navy) and I've lived in a lot of places from a very young age so my accent, while clearly American, might slip for some words and I like to use the British/Australian prononciation for certain words (i.e I say glass-e-er instead of glay-sher for glacier or uh-strAyul-yan instead of aww-strel-yan for Australian.)

I do think Miranda is definitively Australian though.

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So giving Wreav Australia would be a bad move?

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I would like to have a boss fight against several Miranda clones (of course, with Miranda as squadmate).

And getting a scene showing failed projects, like the one from Aliens resurrection.


FAILED Miranda clones. Like, relativly similar but very diverse, similar to Ori compared to Miranda.

Though, I suppose it might become similar to Shialla in ME1.


Yes because the last thing the game needed was THIS in a tube. I actually thought about this and seeing a bloated fleshy version of Miranda strapped nude to a table asking me to kill her. We don't need that.

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Alien Resurrection is AWFUL:sick::sick::sick:

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Skullheart wrote...

I would like to have a boss fight against several Miranda clones (of course, with Miranda as squadmate).

And getting a scene showing failed projects, like the one from Aliens resurrection.



I wonder if that's what the unique enemy they had in the first script would have looked like a of failed clones (don't remember the name of it..."Pyraih"? or something)

Otherwise, the scene from Aliens Resurrection would have been great to have in Sanctuary IMO

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I think that enemy was scrapped because they couldn't implement it. You can see it in the comic with Aria in it.

I also don't think it would make sense to have Miranda clones on Horizon. I would think that Henry, being the man he was, would have disposed of them.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I think that enemy was scrapped because they couldn't implement it. You can see it in the comic with Aria in it.


You are talking about the Adjutants (not the unique mob I mentioned before: Pariah or w/e it was called) and they were scrapped because Omega was suppose to be part of the main game but was cut to be made into DLC.

And maybe he was in the process of doing so? Or using them in addition to the husks he created from the refugees for the tests?

IMO it would have made a powerful scene to have the clones.  Better than the 5 or so logs we hear from him talking and talking.... -_-

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I think that enemy was scrapped because they couldn't implement it. You can see it in the comic with Aria in it.


You are talking abou the Adjutants (not the unique mob I mentioned before) and they were scrapped because Omega was suppose to be part of the main game but was cut to be made into DLC.


Ah, well I'm looking forward to it anyway.

Sanctuary had a lot of potential, and does have quite a bit of weight.

Although it holds information in it that is easier to understand by reading the books including information on the unfortuante soul known as Paul Grayson. I haven't read the books so I'm a bit in the dark.

They mention using red sand to lower inhibitions. I believe that was Kai Lengs idea. I have a hard time believing that the Kai Leng I saw in ME3 was capable of that. Or of killing Miranda.

But I would have liked to have had dialouge with Henry about the clones, or at least some mention of them. On that we can agree.

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