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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Taboo-XX wrote...

I need to read the books to figure out who this Petrovsky is don't I?

Are those worth it? At all? What about those comics? I know they have one that has Miranda in it...


He's in the Mass Effect: Invasion comics.

The novels are good. Nothing spectacular, but they add some decent backing information to the universe. Cerberus is portrayed a lot darker in the novels though, just fyi if you're a Cerberus sympathizer like me.

The comic with Miranda is Redemption. It's the comic detailing how Liara goes after Shepard's corpse (and was entirely written by MW, and it pretty much makes Liara the canon LI for at least ME1.)

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Yet when someone else post something humorous, you all laugh. It was supposed to be Miri's reaction to an awkward moment. Thanks for making me feel intellectually inferior....


The day you do say something funny maybe that will happen to you. Until then, don't expect laughs and quit the "everybody is after me" act.


This.

I've been here for, what? A month and a half? And I'm tired of it. I feel bad for ya'll who've been here for 2 years. : /

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fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Yet when someone else post something humorous, you all laugh. It was supposed to be Miri's reaction to an awkward moment. Thanks for making me feel intellectually inferior....


Humor is a hit and miss thing. Its just didn't come across as humerous...


That's because it wasn't funny... at all.

Knock off the butthurt over everyone else.



You didn't have to be an ass to him first, with the whole "gtfo" comment, oh wait that was just a "joke" right? Please, leave him alone. 

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Babi_Siha wrote...

Sure, if you're premature maybe.


Depending on what you're dealing with you can have any amount of variables.

Men are faster than women, I know you know this. If you're doing things before hand, like...well oral you can get her stimulated more. I find it preferable to let the woman finish first.

Switching positions helps.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Yet when someone else post something humorous, you all laugh. It was supposed to be Miri's reaction to an awkward moment. Thanks for making me feel intellectually inferior....


The day you do say something funny maybe that will happen to you. Until then, don't expect laughs and quit the "everybody is after me" act.


This.

I've been here for, what? A month and a half? And I'm tired of it. I feel bad for ya'll who've been here for 2 years. : /


Ok, that's a new low! WTF

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fiendishchicken wrote...

The comic with Miranda is Redemption. It's the comic detailing how Liara goes after Shepard's corpse (and was entirely written by MW, and it pretty much makes Liara the canon LI for at least ME1.)


Well that's depressing. Are you sure? I'm fairly certain other things are taken into account, such as Shepard's gender. It's never mentioned, and his/her corpse is simply mentioned as being undistinguishable.

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I do love this thread in so many different ways.

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I'm sorry but the second someone says something you disagree with you get BUTHURT over it. No matter what it is.

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spirosz wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Yet when someone else post something humorous, you all laugh. It was supposed to be Miri's reaction to an awkward moment. Thanks for making me feel intellectually inferior....


Humor is a hit and miss thing. Its just didn't come across as humerous...


That's because it wasn't funny... at all.

Knock off the butthurt over everyone else.



You didn't have to be an ass to him first, with the whole "gtfo" comment, oh wait that was just a "joke" right? Please, leave him alone. 



As everyone else has made abundantly clear, he does this regularly. It's old and he needs to freaking grow up. I apologize for lashing out, but then he tries to turn the whole shebang into, "Oh nobody likes my stuff. You all suck." 

I wouldn't mind him so much if he didn't also didn't CONSTANTLY spam me whiny messages detailing how he's afraid Liara is going to ninjamance him and steal him from Miranda.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

The comic with Miranda is Redemption. It's the comic detailing how Liara goes after Shepard's corpse (and was entirely written by MW, and it pretty much makes Liara the canon LI for at least ME1.)


Well that's depressing. Are you sure? I'm fairly certain other things are taken into account, such as Shepard's gender. It's never mentioned, and his/her corpse is simply mentioned as being undistinguishable.

That's not entirely accurate.

Redemption was written by Walters but scripted by John Jackson Miller. 

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Taboo-XX wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

The comic with Miranda is Redemption. It's the comic detailing how Liara goes after Shepard's corpse (and was entirely written by MW, and it pretty much makes Liara the canon LI for at least ME1.)


Well that's depressing. Are you sure? I'm fairly certain other things are taken into account, such as Shepard's gender. It's never mentioned, and his/her corpse is simply mentioned as being undistinguishable.


And remember that Liara is romancible by either gender...

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Babi_Siha wrote...

Miranda in the Omega, for me, makes every sense in the world. Dtrain and I have come up with some situations that wouldn't be a stretch. Basically, we came up with this, originally posted on the #FindMiranda group:

"Basically we were hoping for a confrontation with Petrovsky, where Miranda would try to convince him to join her. Like dtrain mentioned above, this would be a great opportunity for BW to adress the Cerberus issue regarding Miranda; Oleg could ask her something like "I thought you believed in Cerberus" and Miranda could reply "I still believe in what Cerberus used to stand for, but TIM has gone too far, his methods are brutal and he only cares about power now. He's even experimenting on humans".

Wheather or not Oleg would choose to help her would depend on previous choices on the DLC, for example, let's suppose there's a situation where some Cerberus agents who haven't been upgraded with Reaper tech are surrounded by reapers, Miranda, Aria and Shepard can choose to either help them or let them die. The former option would cause a confrontation with Aria, but helping them will look good for Oleg and it would give Miranda a few Cerberus defects.

Shepard would be the main player when it comes to gameplay, but in some scenes, like the confrontation with Petrovsky it would be nice if Miranda could lead the dialogues, Shepard's purpose at that moment could be to use the paragon or renegade interrupts. If Miranda is almost convincing Oleg then Shepard can use a paragon interrupt to complete the job or if she isn't sucessful or if shepard is just a plain renegade and wants to end
Oleg then he'll get a renegade interrupt.

Dtrain gave the idea that the sucess of the mission would depend on Miranda's relationship with Shepard."

Also, Dtrain posted this:

"Shepard must help Aria re-take Omega from Cerberus. Miranda gets involved because she wants to help take down the organization.

Miranda could be a squadmate and Aria would be the npc that hacks security and talks over the radio (I don't see Bioware making her a squaddie). Based on decisions, Shepard and Miranda will either have a confrontation with
Aria, or Oleg Petrovsky. If you let the Cerberus troopers that weren't upgraded with Reaper tech die, you have a confrontation with an angry Oleg. But if you save them, Aria will get pissed at you.

Based on Miranda's loyalty and how high Shepard's reputation is, you can calm them down. If not, you may need to put them down.

This is also a perfect time to develop Miranda's character. She could have lines similar to 'I used to believe in Cerberus, before it turned into this. The Illusive Man's new ideas and morals are now insane, etc'"


Sounds really good!  :wizard:  I thought the three books that Drew Karpyshyn wrote were good.  It wasn't the best but it was enjoyable.  Never read the other book, thank god.  Will be interested in seeing the newer version once they fix all the errors.  

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

The comic with Miranda is Redemption. It's the comic detailing how Liara goes after Shepard's corpse (and was entirely written by MW, and it pretty much makes Liara the canon LI for at least ME1.)


Well that's depressing. Are you sure? I'm fairly certain other things are taken into account, such as Shepard's gender. It's never mentioned, and his/her corpse is simply mentioned as being undistinguishable.

That's not entirely accurate.

Redemption was written by Walters but scripted by John Jackson Miller. 


He wrote the dialogue. The overall story was all Mac. Miller interpreted it according to what Walters wanted.

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The issue is that I had no idea what was going on in parts of ME3. I had to piece things together as I hadn't read any of the books. And then this damn ninja shows up.

I'm unsure if I want to go near anything Mac Walters has written in a large quantity...

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For me, Redemption's Story doesn't Exist, at least not the way the Comic is. Liara as "Canon" LI? Give me a break.:sick:

The actual "Canon" LI should be the one who the Player Romances, depending on whether the Player has One Story, like Myself.

I heard before that the writing in Redemption wasn't too good. Is that true?

Which comic has the better writing? Evolution?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 10 août 2012 - 04:18 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

The issue is that I had no idea what was going on in parts of ME3. I had to piece things together as I hadn't read any of the books. And then this damn ninja shows up.

I'm unsure if I want to go near anything Mac Walters has written in a large quantity...



Ditto. Greyson is mentioned with out any filler on who he is. Leng has no characterization.

Kahless Sanders seems to be the only one that's done well. She has her role, she does her role, and that's it.

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It's a freaking comic book. Just ignore it, like I do those comic books where Boba Fett escaped from the sarlac (Bull. Sh!t.)

And Ashley is the canon LI. Didn't you see the TV commercials?

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Well in theory, Liara DID establish a mental link with Shepard, romanced or not, just to see the visions.

I don't consider that a relationship.

Liara probably does though.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 août 2012 - 04:22 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

The issue is that I had no idea what was going on in parts of ME3. I had to piece things together as I hadn't read any of the books. And then this damn ninja shows up.

I'm unsure if I want to go near anything Mac Walters has written in a large quantity...


Actually I thought Redemption was pretty decent. And Liara addresses Shepard as her friend, so there's nothing that explicitly says she was his/hers LI. And it fills in those blankets left by ME2, I recommend reading the comic.

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Ashley is not Canon for me. Miri is my LI. There for, she is Canon for me, even though there are no others.

I haven't really read the Comics, and I haven't read ANY of the Novels. Which novel should I avoid again?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 10 août 2012 - 04:23 .


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Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

The issue is that I had no idea what was going on in parts of ME3. I had to piece things together as I hadn't read any of the books. And then this damn ninja shows up.

I'm unsure if I want to go near anything Mac Walters has written in a large quantity...


Actually I thought Redemption was pretty decent. And Liara addresses Shepard as her friend, so there's nothing that explicitly says she was his/hers LI. And it fills in those blankets left by ME2, I recommend reading the comic.


I'm not concerned with Liara being the whatever like some other people. I was simply interested in seeing what others thought.

The story is important. Minor details can be interpreted any which way.

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krukow wrote...

It's a freaking comic book. Just ignore it, like I do those comic books where Boba Fett escaped from the sarlac (Bull. Sh!t.)

And Ashley is the canon LI. Didn't you see the TV commercials?


That's because showing aliens as LI's is too controversial for a public audience. Especially an American audience. You'd have fox news all over the franchise (again) calling it a porn game in space (again)

Don't trash the Fettman. He's been in a LOT more than just a few comics. 
catch up on your SW expanded universe. He's actually a very important figure in the galaxy in the later years.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 10 août 2012 - 04:24 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

^ She is not. Miri is my LI. There for, she is Canon for me, even though there are no others.

I haven't really read the Comics, and I haven't read ANY of the Novels. Which novel should I avoid again?


Yes, You've stated this a million times. I thought this would be obvious enough by now. -_- She was joking.

You should avoid Deception. Unless you want to read it just to see how crappy it is.

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What if Ashley died on Virmire?

WHERE IS YOUR WAIFU NOW?

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

You should avoid Deception. Unless you want to read it just to see how crappy it is.


I heard it was awfully written.