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[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...


I would see most of Shepard's crew siding with the Quarians.

I don't see the Galaxy seeing the Geth as victims in Destroy either, which is awful.

But I think most people would see the Quarians as trustworthy.

I never really cared all that much about quarians and after reading Ascension my impression got even worse, they have a reputation of being thiefs and at the end of the day that's exactly what they are when they get to a system and probe it for minerals (though after reading that news on the Alliance Network about the quarians denying the Council an inspection they got a bit of my respect)..

However, I would never choose synthetics over organics no matter what the situation is, that's why I don't care about the geth dying in the destroy ending nor do I consider that genocide. I don't know exactly how Miranda feels about the quarians, but I can't imagine her caring about them all that much. Still, better them than synthetics, she made more than clear in ME2 her distrust of AIs.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 10 août 2012 - 06:35 .

[krukow]

Most people judge the geth by the actions of the heritecs. That's why the galaxy wouldn't care if they died, fair or not.

I don't think Miranda would care that much about them, because she wasn't around for the Rannoch stuff, she didn't see what they became.

[fiendishchicken]

Babi_Siha wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

With tears in my eyes I beg you guys to get back on topic before this thread is closed. 

How would Miranda react to the Quarian/Geth Conflict, and what do you think her choice outcome would be and why?

Thank you! And please Taboo-XX and Ghost, if you could edit your posts and remove those atrocities of pictures that'd be much appreciated.

I think if she couldn't save them both like Shepard can, she'd save the quarians. She didn't respond well to Shepard wanting to speak to Legion nor did she like when Joker unshackled EDI, so I don't think Miranda would ever trust or try to save AIs.

I see everyone minus Shepard siding with the Quarians. I would side with the Geth. They chose to defend themselves from the Quarian offenses and did nothing wrong. 

No one would trust them though. And it would be a shame for the Quarians to be wiped out though.

[Ghost]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...


I would see most of Shepard's crew siding with the Quarians.

I don't see the Galaxy seeing the Geth as victims in Destroy either, which is awful.

But I think most people would see the Quarians as trustworthy.

Most people see the Geth as just machines. 

One might argue that we're all machines.

In the end, people are shaped by what they hear about said issues.

They only know of the Geth as bad, and it will always be that way.

Exactly.

[Taboo]

The Geth have done things in the past that have been problematic.

Legion states that they were excessive with the Quarians, and wiped out millions of them. I can see why the Quarians are so angry. They started it, but at the end of the day the Geth proved they could be just as malicious.

But the Quarians are in the wrong in this scenario, as they DID attack first. The Geth were actually preparing to help organics against the Reapers.

[Babi_Siha]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

With tears in my eyes I beg you guys to get back on topic before this thread is closed. 

How would Miranda react to the Quarian/Geth Conflict, and what do you think her choice outcome would be and why?

Thank you! And please Taboo-XX and Ghost, if you could edit your posts and remove those atrocities of pictures that'd be much appreciated.

I think if she couldn't save them both like Shepard can, she'd save the quarians. She didn't respond well to Shepard wanting to speak to Legion nor did she like when Joker unshackled EDI, so I don't think Miranda would ever trust or try to save AIs.

I see everyone minus Shepard siding with the Quarians. I would side with the Geth. They chose to defend themselves from the Quarian offenses and did nothing wrong. 

No one would trust them though. And it would be a shame for the Quarians to be wiped out though.

I don't see Shepard siding with the geth as well unless he's a renegade. I get that the geth shouldn't be judged for defending themselves and that Shepard saw the quarians turning on them, but the truth is in the end they are just machines and choosing them over quarians is just wrong IMO. 

[Taboo]

It's interesting to note, at least from a meta-gaming perspective, that the Rannoch situation is very different if Legion is not there.

I took Miranda's advice and sold him in one playthrough. Entirely new perspective. It looks as if the Geth VI is betraying you, and is uploading the code maliciously. It's an interesting scenario.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's interesting to note, at least from a meta-gaming perspective, that the Rannoch situation is very different if Legion is not there.

I took Miranda's advice and sold him in one playthrough. Entirely new perspective. It looks as if the Geth VI is betraying you, and is uploading the code maliciously. It's an interesting scenario.

I found Legion's attitude to be completely malicious as well. He did upload the code to the other geth without telling Shepard first. That might've been survival but it was also a betrayal.

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's interesting to note, at least from a meta-gaming perspective, that the Rannoch situation is very different if Legion is not there.

I took Miranda's advice and sold him in one playthrough. Entirely new perspective. It looks as if the Geth VI is betraying you, and is uploading the code maliciously. It's an interesting scenario.

I found Legion's attitude to be completely malicious as well. He did upload the code to the other geth without telling Shepard first. That might've been survival but it was also a betrayal.

He states that he lied.

If the VI is there, I see no reason for Shepard to believe anything he says.

But I still see the destruction of the Geth as awful.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's interesting to note, at least from a meta-gaming perspective, that the Rannoch situation is very different if Legion is not there.

I took Miranda's advice and sold him in one playthrough. Entirely new perspective. It looks as if the Geth VI is betraying you, and is uploading the code maliciously. It's an interesting scenario.

I found Legion's attitude to be completely malicious as well. He did upload the code to the other geth without telling Shepard first. That might've been survival but it was also a betrayal.

He states that he lied.

If the VI is there, I see no reason for Shepard to believe anything he says.

But I still see the destruction of the Geth as awful.

Yeah, I never saw as being awful. There were herectic geth, which means at any time someone with the same abilities as David could comunicate with them or someone could find a way to hack them and use them to battle their fights, I don't think the risk of those possibilities are worth. Of course as the turians, krogans and salarians have proven, organics are just as capable of turning on other species, but at least if that happens in theory it could be solved diplomatically and even if diplomacy didn't work (the most likely scenario) at least it would be a more fair fight.

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Yeah, I never saw as being awful. There were herectic geth, which means at any time someone with the same abilities as David could comunicate with them or someone could find a way to hack them and use them to battle their fights, I don't think the risk of those possibilities are worth. Of course as the turians, krogans and salarians have proven, organics are just as capable of turning on other species, but at least if that happens in theory it could be solved diplomatically and even if diplomacy didn't work (the most likely scenario) at least it would be a more fair fight.

A very possible scenario. It does however show that Organics are entirely capable of defeating Synthetics, which the Catalyst is positive will not happen.

Picking Destroy with the Geth dead doesn't really make a difference to me. It feels like a failing to me if I can't make peace and a crude sacrifice in the other.

If anything, the Geth have proven to be just as untrustworthy as any organic though.

I fear the possibility of a Krogan uprising more than a Synthetic one.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 août 2012 - 06:55 .

[LanceSolous13]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

This fan art was well received last night.

Thoughts?

Sexy, and it fits Miranda to an extent, but it seems a bit forward. The message is a little too clear.

Part of Miranda's appeal to me is the mystery and the danger. Neither is really too prevalent in this pic.

After a night with Shepard, do things really have to be a mystery?

I think Miranda would let down her guard around Shepard. Out on the field or in front of other people, she'd put up this air of mystery, almost as a protection. Around Shepard, she'd be more open and free with her actions.

Compare the Romanced dialogue in ME2 to the Friendship dialogue.

[kaymarierose]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's interesting to note, at least from a meta-gaming perspective, that the Rannoch situation is very different if Legion is not there.

I took Miranda's advice and sold him in one playthrough. Entirely new perspective. It looks as if the Geth VI is betraying you, and is uploading the code maliciously. It's an interesting scenario.

I found Legion's attitude to be completely malicious as well. He did upload the code to the other geth without telling Shepard first. That might've been survival but it was also a betrayal.

He states that he lied.

If the VI is there, I see no reason for Shepard to believe anything he says.

But I still see the destruction of the Geth as awful.

In the destroy ending I never had a problem sacrificing the geth. I mean they spent the entire first game shooting at me. What started out as an act of defense, turned into mindless fighting. Shepard never did anything to them. And even though I grew to like Legion, he had already died by the end anyway so there was no reason for me to feel remorse. The only reason I didn't like destroy was the death of EDI. I liked her and I encouraged her and Joker. I felt like her dying was not only losing one friend, but hurting another. I felt bad for Joker.

Modifié par kaymarierose, 10 août 2012 - 07:06 .

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

A very possible scenario. It does however show that Organics are entirely capable of defeating Synthetics, which the Catalyst is positive will not happen.

Picking Destroy with the Geth dead doesn't really make a difference to me. It feels like a failing to me if I can't make peace and a crude sacrifice in the other.

If anything, the Geth have proven to be just as untrustworthy as any organic though.

Yes, organics are capable of defending themselves. But let me give you this example, with the end of the reaper war the humans will likely have an even bigger importance and since Shepard was the man responsible for the end of the war, humanity respect would grow a lot. What if the turians don't like that and want their place back or decided to retribute for their loss on the first contact war and find a way to control the geth? An army of turians, with all their dreadnoughts and strongest millitary in the galaxy plus the geth and all their technology could be a disaster for humans.

I fear the possibility of a Krogan uprising more than a Synthetic one.

Yeah, I think as long as Wrex is in charge he'll try his best just to get the krogans back on their feet. But now that you mentioned that, I don't think Miranda would agree with curing the genophage. She would think about the possible consequences and decided that the bad outcomes should be taken in consideration more than the good ones, after all other than being fighting mules for other species what did the krogan accomplish in the galactic scenario?

[LanceSolous13]

So, out of all the choices in ME3, Which ones do you think Miranda would disagree with?

[Taboo]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

This fan art was well received last night.

Thoughts?

Sexy, and it fits Miranda to an extent, but it seems a bit forward. The message is a little too clear.

Part of Miranda's appeal to me is the mystery and the danger. Neither is really too prevalent in this pic.

After a night with Shepard, do things really have to be a mystery?

I think Miranda would let down her guard around Shepard. Out on the field or in front of other people, she'd put up this air of mystery, almost as a protection. Around Shepard, she'd be more open and free with her actions.

Compare the Romanced dialogue in ME2 to the Friendship dialogue.

I've never heard the friendship dialouge.

But from what I've been told about her face when she first sees Shepard in ME3 varies depending on if she's romanced or not.

She's really bad at hiding emotions through her face. I'd imagine she's overjoyed to see him.

When I first talked to her I was actually suprised at her reaction to him.

She really missed him.

[Ghost]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

So, out of all the choices in ME3, Which ones do you think Miranda would disagree with?

I wonder what her opinion is on curing the Genophage.

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

I don't think Miranda would agree with curing the genophage. She would think about the possible consequences and decided that the bad outcomes should be taken in consideration more than the good ones, after all other than being fighting mules for other species what did the krogan accomplish in the galactic scenario?

You're right. She has an interesting comment on the matter if you take her on Grunt's loyalty mission and talk to the scout.

She fears the scout returning and telling stories about the Genophage being cured.

But with Wrex AND Eve in charge, you get an adorable little slide with mothers and their children living in peace.

I don't think she'd have an issue with that.

But Wreav? Never. I'd never let that fool lead the Krogan.

[kaymarierose]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

So, out of all the choices in ME3, Which ones do you think Miranda would disagree with?

I don't think she'd like the idea of curing the Genophage. She'd get over it, but she wouldn't like it one bit.

[Babi_Siha]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

So, out of all the choices in ME3, Which ones do you think Miranda would disagree with?

About the genophage, I think she'd agree with the dalatrass.

About the quarian/geth conflict, she'd exterminate the geth.

And about the endings, I think destroy would be the only choice for her. Control is too close to what her father wanted to do and she wanted to do that to Shepard and then regreted that and realized how wrong it was. She was artificially created and seems to sometimes resent that, so I don't think she would agree with Synthesis and being changed like that without having a saying; also both scenarios present much variables for someone who's always thinking ahead like her. Destroy would be the way to go for, it'd end the cycle and she wouldn't care less about the geth and EDI.

[lillitheris]

Taboo-XX wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Looking at that love glare photo, I miss the ME2 detail and graphics for some reason.

I MISS THE FILM GRAIN.

You should be able to add it via the FXAA mod.

[Taboo]

lillitheris wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Looking at that love glare photo, I miss the ME2 detail and graphics for some reason.

I MISS THE FILM GRAIN.

You should be able to add it via the FXAA mod.

I would be on that so fast it would make the room spin...if I had a PC running the game.

I only have the game for 360 and PS3, and the only thing I'm runnning it on now IS the PS3.

[lillitheris]

kaymarierose wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This was another Miri which I was trying to create after the other one, but I stopped, because I started to feel uneasy about it, and since this was started before we saw Miri in ME3, it became a little invalid, regardless of the fact that it was Fan-Art with Fan-Made Clothing. So it's a "No Name," and unfinished Drawing.  Basically "Shelved." I may not even touch it. If I do, can you please give feedback at this moment in time? :

Her legs seem too wide and long. It makes them appear out of proportion. I would suggest thinning them and shortening them.

In interest of accuracy, what’s out of proportion is Miranda’s in-game model. MEfan’s earlier works actually are quite a bit more realistic in that respect, and this isn’t that far off.

And some wonder if it’s really true that movies and video games affect people’s self-image…

[Taboo]

There are women that look like Miranda, I've seen them. They're incredibly unhealthy.

If you notice, her feet don't always look like they could exist either.

I would call bull**** and say genetics, but that only works within the context of the game. From our Point of View, she was simply made that way on purpose.

[kaymarierose]

Probably, but she is a video game character, so I critiqued on her physical appearance in-game. If his intent is to make her realistic, he could use Ms. Strahovski as a realistic reference. Whichever, I mearly gave a suggestion, what he does with it is entirely up to him.