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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Miss Strahovski is not a reference for that body, only the face.

Understand that the women you see in those magazines are airbrushed and they lose thirty or so pounds sometimes (seriously), depending on the source.

Look at a picture of Miss Strahovski at a panel and then look at her when she's posing for something.

Twenty, thirty pounds, easy.

It's all a lie.

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Taboo-XX wrote...
You're right. She has an interesting comment on the matter if you take her on Grunt's loyalty mission and talk to the scout.

She fears the scout returning and telling stories about the Genophage being cured.

But with Wrex AND Eve in charge, you get an adorable little slide with mothers and their children living in peace.

I don't think she'd have an issue with that.

But Wreav? Never. I'd never let that fool lead the Krogan.


Yeah, I think that she would agree with Mordin on Wrex and Eve being a stabalizing element and be on Shepard's side of curing the Genophage out of also recognising the need for Krogan support.

She'd me more nervious about Wreav and Eve but, after coming to know Eve, realise that she could be able to combat Wreav's combative mindset. So, much more cautiously in that playthrough.

Now, with Wreav in charge and Eve dead, She'd sabotage the cure without batting an eye.

Modifié par LanceSolous13, 10 août 2012 - 07:58 .


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I'd sabotage the cure if Wreav was in charge and Eve was dead. Even Mordin can be persauded to back off.

It isn't a good idea.

And from what I've been led to understand, Wreav still ****s around if Eve is alive. Ieldra mentioned (or had) a slide that had Synthesized Krogan getting ready for war against one another.

What does Eve bring to the table that Wrex allows? Females. That's part of the stabilizing agent.

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On the Quarian Geth conflict, She'd be all for Shepard creating peace if he could, but favor killing the Geth over the Quarians and defend their attempts to kill the Geth. Would have been interesting if you could take the Squad into the Geth Consensus with you for their imput.

Now, with the endings, She would either look at Destroy or Control. Synthesis is not an option to her. Now, with Leviathian coming out soon, Her view might find Control too unstable of an answer and then choose Destory every time.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I'd sabotage the cure if Wreav was in charge and Eve was dead. Even Mordin can be persauded to back off.


Than maybe only under Shepard's influence?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Miss Strahovski is not a reference for that body, only the face.

Understand that the women you see in those magazines are airbrushed and they lose thirty or so pounds sometimes (seriously), depending on the source.

Look at a picture of Miss Strahovski at a panel and then look at her when she's posing for something.

Twenty, thirty pounds, easy.

It's all a lie.


Yes, I know. I was saying that she, proportionally wise, is realistic, obviously. Adjustments to the actual shape in a drawing can be made accordingly. Also, there are more than just magazine pictures of her to go off of, not every picture of her, or anyone for that matter, is edited to be fake.

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The thing is is that the AI created in Control is not said person.

I'm not putting something potentially chaotic in charge of the Reapers.

Malevolent, Benevolent makes no difference to me.

Worse yet is the Fascist Dictator one in the Renegade Control. That's just ****ed up.

But cool if that's who your Shepard was.

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So, out of all the choices in ME3, Which ones do you think Miranda would disagree with?


Major choices:
*Priority: Tuchanka: she would sabotage the cure
*Priority: Rannoch: she would not side with the geth. Peace or pro-quarian is ok.
*Final choice: she would choose Destroy or Synthesis. Control hits too close to home.

Minor choices:
*Aria's Mercs: she'd try to find an alternative solution to killing General Oraka
*Aria's Mercs: she would suggest that Sayn kills Sederis and takes over
*Attican Traverse: Krogan Team: she would kill the Rachni queen

*Citadel: Cerberus Retribution: she would not let Captain Sommers kill the Cerberus mole
*Citadel: Wounded Batarian: she would switch off the machine
*Citadel: Volus Ambassador: she would choose the fleet or try to convince him to provide both
*Grissom Academy: Emergency Evacuation: she would send the biotics to the frontlines
*Kallini: Ardat-Yakshi Monastery: she would prevent Samara from killing herself

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kaymarierose wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Miss Strahovski is not a reference for that body, only the face.

Understand that the women you see in those magazines are airbrushed and they lose thirty or so pounds sometimes (seriously), depending on the source.

Look at a picture of Miss Strahovski at a panel and then look at her when she's posing for something.

Twenty, thirty pounds, easy.

It's all a lie.


Yes, I know. I was saying that she, proportionally wise, is realistic, obviously. Adjustments to the actual shape in a drawing can be made accordingly. Also, there are more than just magazine pictures of her to go off of, not every picture of her, or anyone for that matter, is edited to be fake.


A lot are. She doesn't do many interviews, and I've never watched any personally, but I can tell that her magazine spreads are airbrushed to hell.

She weighs more than you think she does. Twenty, even thirty pounds more.

A size sixteen is considered too fat in the modelling world. I don't know what that means for a woman, as I'm no expert, but seeing the photos makes me wonder what the hell is going on in the world in terms of portraying women.

There was just a big hoopla over lingerie models that I got caught up in recently. What I heard was absolutely apalling.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 août 2012 - 08:05 .


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krukow wrote...

Topic:
If Miranda had had a slightly more normal upbringing(though with her same genetics and abilities), and had never gone to cerberus, what would she have done with her life? Alliance intelligence? Private practice/freelance? Or do you think she winds up at cerberus no matter what?


Well i don't think she and the Alliance are well suited. So i think if she went that route she would probably end up a frustrated person who Cerberus recruits.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...
Now, with the endings, She would either look at Destroy or Control. Synthesis is not an option to her.

Don't just dismiss it. As a scientist, I can't imagine Miranda not being intrigued by the possibilities of Synthesis, even if she would be uncorfotable with modifying all life in the galaxy. And she has always supported an "The ends justify the means" mentality.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

The thing is is that the AI created in Control is not said person.

I'm not putting something potentially chaotic in charge of the Reapers.

Malevolent, Benevolent makes no difference to me.

Worse yet is the Fascist Dictator one in the Renegade Control. That's just ****ed up.

But cool if that's who your Shepard was.


Oh. Trust me, I hate Control. Destroy is the only reasonable option.

But, given the BS we get at the Crucible by Starbrat, Miranda might look at Control in hopes of just sending the Reapers into a sun or something.

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MisterJB wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...
Now, with the endings, She would either look at Destroy or Control. Synthesis is not an option to her.

Don't just dismiss it. As a scientist, I can't imagine Miranda not being intrigued by the possibilities of Synthesis, even if she would be uncorfotable with modifying all life in the galaxy. And she has always supported an "The ends justify the means" mentality.


Not in the manner you're a fan of.

She's shown to have more than enough ability to judge each situation based upon an individual basis.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...
So, out of all the choices in ME3, Which ones do you think Miranda would disagree with?


Major choices:
*Priority: Tuchanka: she would sabotage the cure
*Priority: Rannoch: she would not side with the geth. Peace or pro-quarian is ok.
*Final choice: she would choose Destroy or Synthesis. Control hits too close to home.

Minor choices:
*Aria's Mercs: she'd try to find an alternative solution to killing General Oraka
*Aria's Mercs: she would suggest that Sayn kills Sederis and takes over
*Attican Traverse: Krogan Team: she would kill the Rachni queen

*Citadel: Cerberus Retribution: she would not let Captain Sommers kill the Cerberus mole
*Citadel: Wounded Batarian: she would switch off the machine
*Citadel: Volus Ambassador: she would choose the fleet or try to convince him to provide both
*Grissom Academy: Emergency Evacuation: she would send the biotics to the frontlines
*Kallini: Ardat-Yakshi Monastery: she would prevent Samara from killing herself


I think she would actually realises how bad of an idea that would be instead. I can't see her logic behind sending them to the frontlines.

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And just because the thread needs the reminder:

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Oh. Trust me, I hate Control. Destroy is the only reasonable option.

But, given the BS we get at the Crucible by Starbrat, Miranda might look at Control in hopes of just sending the Reapers into a sun or something.


You take over for the Catalyst though. Your job is to be just that, the Catalyst.

You "protect" in Paragon and "Dictate" in Renegade.

The idea here being that you are still using beings against their will to justify your viewpoint. Which is why it is tied to TIM.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

A lot are. She doesn't do many interviews, and I've never watched any personally, but I can tell that her magazine spreads are airbrushed to hell.

She weighs more than you think she does. Twenty, even thirty pounds more.

A size sixteen is considered too fat in the modelling world. I don't know what that means for a woman, as I'm no expert, but seeing the photos makes me wonder what the hell is going on in the world in terms of portraying women.

There was just a big hoopla over lingerie models that I got caught up in recently. What I heard was absolutely apalling.


A lot, yes. But not all. I'm well aware she weighs more than she looks, everyone does. Modeling photos are always edited to some extent. Some definately more than others. But there are pictures out there that are untouched.

Aside from that, there are other people that can be used. For example, I know Rach takes pictures of herself to use a reference to her drawings. Yvonne was only a suggestion, simply because not only is she the face and voice of Miranda, but I'm quite positive he has plenty of pictures of her. Even if her body isn't like Miranda's it is just a reference.

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@LanceSolous:
They want to go. Miranda would not prevent them.

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@LanceSolous:
They want to go. Miranda would not prevent them.


They're also young and arrogant. Very much so.

That's something to take into consideration.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 août 2012 - 08:22 .


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@LanceSolous:
They want to go. Miranda would not prevent them.


They're also sixteen, may I remind you. They're also nothing special in the Biotics department. I think she'd realise that, unless they're significantly powerful with Biotics, They should remain support.

Very much like Liara in ME1 and ME3, She drops very easily. They're not meant to be on the frontlines.

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Come to think of it if Jack was there she might have some things to say about the issue at hand.

She trusts Shepard, not Miranda.

And as the last conflict they really have is the one in her office, I'm unsure if they've made peace.

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They do rather well in the fight. Jack says so when you call her at the FOB. OK, they also die, but you'd never have known that before the EC. I think this opinion that they don't belong on the frontlines is influenced too much by the outcome.

@Taboo:
Miranda would suggest that they ready to fight, just as Shepard does if you choose that option. Whether Jack would follow her advice or not is an unrelated question.

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Do you think that she'd put sixteen year olds out there?

Speaking of which did anyone ever discover WHY Orianna lost three years?

She's nineteen in ME2 and sixteen in ME3.

wat

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Ieldra2 wrote...

They do rather well in the fight. Jack says so when you call her at the FOB. OK, they also die, but you'd never have known that before the EC. I think this opinion that they don't belong on the frontlines is influenced too much by the outcome.

@Taboo:
Miranda would suggest that they ready to fight, just as Shepard does if you choose that option. Whether Jack would follow her advice or not is an unrelated question.


Not for me it wasn't. The only Biotic that can hold their own on the frontlines are maybe Sentinels and Vanguards. Adepts? Not so much.

I simply looked at what I already knew about Biotics and I also trusted what Jack had to say about them. Plus, the'd save lives on Support.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Do you think that she'd put sixteen year olds out there?

Speaking of which did anyone ever discover WHY Orianna lost three years?

She's nineteen in ME2 and sixteen in ME3.

wat


I don't even remember her age being discussed in ME3...