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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3

Débuté par jtav , juin 13 2011 05:39

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Ieldra
Posté 10 août 2012 - 08:36

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IsaacShep wrote...
The more I think about it, the more I think Miranda should be part of Omega DLC. Not only it connects with Cerberus, but it also connects with Miranda's plot - Cerberus was using Omega to have access to Collector Base technology. And Miranda's father was using that technology to crack how to control the husks.

Absolutely. We've been saying that for months.

Will she be there? Well, that depends on whether Bioware wants to throw us starved Miranda fans a bone - and pay for it. 

I'd put it like this: "There is non-zero probability of Miranda being present in the Omega DLC"

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 08:38

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She needs a Miranda/Cerberus DLC.

Anything in Omega is going to Aria centered.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 08:39

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She needs a Miranda/Cerberus DLC.

Anything in Omega is going to Aria centered.


Do I really need to state my Jack/Miranda Cripple Cerberus DLC idea again? It hits two birds with one stone.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 08:44

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

She needs a Miranda/Cerberus DLC.

Anything in Omega is going to Aria centered.


Do I really need to state my Jack/Miranda Cripple Cerberus DLC idea again? It hits two birds with one stone.


Yes but that's a GOOD idea. Bioware doesn't want those.

Wouldn't you prefer a Diana Allers DLC with Extended Sex Scenes, Interviews and War Assets?

I'm pretty sure you do.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 août 2012 - 08:44 .

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:07

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Looks like I went to sleep at the right time... :blink:

Glad to see the discussion got back to Miranda. With regards to Miranda's decision-making, I've always felt a certain paraphrase from Oscar Wilde did a fairly good job of summing her up.

A cynic 'knows the price of everything and the value of nothing'.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:09

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She needs a Miranda/Cerberus DLC.

Anything in Omega is going to Aria centered.


Throwing Miranda in a DLC that was already going to happen makes more sense. BioWare will never give us character specific DLC as much as we want to.

A Retake Omega DLC obviously would focus heavy on Aria, but Miranda could be just as important if BioWare wanted that to be the case. And an Omega DLC is related to Cerberus, so Miranda being there makes sense.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:12

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Do you think that she'd put sixteen year olds out there?

Speaking of which did anyone ever discover WHY Orianna lost three years?

She's nineteen in ME2 and sixteen in ME3.

wat


I don't think she's have a problem putting sixteen year olds on the frontline.
That said i don't think she would put the young biotics on the frontline.
The frontline is the place for expendable grunts.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:15

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Miranda would just take the opposite standpoint to Jack. So, yeah, frontlines. :P

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:17

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I'm going to risk it. (Posting in the Miranda thread)

Regards to Miranda in the 'Retake Omega' DLC. Wouldn't she be too busy looking for Ori, or would she be going there for specific infomation on Ori's location?

Didn't she say that infomation lead her to Sanctuary?

As a apology, have a Miranda
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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:17

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Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

She needs a Miranda/Cerberus DLC.

Anything in Omega is going to Aria centered.


Throwing Miranda in a DLC that was already going to happen makes more sense. BioWare will never give us character specific DLC as much as we want to.

A Retake Omega DLC obviously would focus heavy on Aria, but Miranda could be just as important if BioWare wanted that to be the case. And an Omega DLC is related to Cerberus, so Miranda being there makes sense.


Tie Miranda as an optional portion of the Petrovsky story in Omega and i would be happy. I would love separate Miranda/jack DLC but don't see that happening. Them as part of a bigger story has potential if it is finacially viable to get their voice actors in for a small amount of work.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:21

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mavqt wrote...

I'm going to risk it. (Posting in the Miranda thread)

Regards to Miranda in the 'Retake Omega' DLC. Wouldn't she be too busy looking for Ori, or would she be going there for specific infomation on Ori's location?

Didn't she say that infomation lead her to Sanctuary?

As a apology, have a Miranda


She's trying to find a lead on where Oriana is. Until the moment she finds out she is at Sanctuary i find it perfectly plausible that she might divert to help out an old Cerberus colleague(Petrovsky), especially if he appealed for her help.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:24

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mavqt wrote...

I'm going to risk it. (Posting in the Miranda thread)

Regards to Miranda in the 'Retake Omega' DLC. Wouldn't she be too busy looking for Ori, or would she be going there for specific infomation on Ori's location?

Didn't she say that infomation lead her to Sanctuary?

As a apology, have a Miranda
Image IPB


Welcome to our thread! =D We have actually discussed this, the Retake Omega DLC should happen after Sanctuary. Remember the email an Alliance officer sent Miranda about her going after Cerberus? Since thanks to this email it's pretty clear that after Ori was rescued Miranda went after Cerberus, then why not go to Omega? There are probably plenty operatives on Omega since they've taken over the station, so she'd be going against Cerberus.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:27

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True, but straight after Sanc, you're off to Conos station. In which I would of loved her there instead of EDI. But no dice.:C

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:27

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Well, in realistic terms you'd have to consider the possibility that a player would be doing Retake Omega at anytime. I guess, in this instance, you'd be saying that if it's done before Sanctuary there would be a stand-in character, the same as if she were dead.

I could sort of see her being there before Sanctuary, but could also see why she wouldn't.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:33

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hot_heart wrote...

Well, in realistic terms you'd have to consider the possibility that a player would be doing Retake Omega at anytime. I guess, in this instance, you'd be saying that if it's done before Sanctuary there would be a stand-in character, the same as if she were dead.

I could sort of see her being there before Sanctuary, but could also see why she wouldn't.


When I first gave the idea of Miranda being a part of the Omega DLC I thought about the DLC happening before Sanctuary, Miranda's reasoning was because she was after her father to find Oriana and she'd go there to find information on where to find him. Ideally, her motivations for going there shoud change according to when we play the DLC. Before Horizon she's trying to find Ori; after Sanctuary she's gunning for Cerberus and trying to get Petrovsky on their side.

In case she died in ME2 or died on Sanctuary, another character could replace her, just like it happened with Legion or with Wrex.

EDIT: Even if done before Sanctuary, she could still try to persuade Petrovsky to leave Cerberus.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 10 août 2012 - 09:36 .

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:49

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hot_heart wrote...

Miranda would just take the opposite standpoint to Jack. So, yeah, frontlines. :P


Could have been great character development for the two to agree for once.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:52

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Miranda would just take the opposite standpoint to Jack. So, yeah, frontlines. :P


Could have been great character development for the two to agree for once.

Oh, definitely. The comment was more in jest.

It would've been an interesting conversation between the two. Miranda knows about Teltin and such, so Jack could argue from that standpoint (and if she knows about Oriana?). And I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Miranda could be convinced. In writing, those are the sorts of situations you look for.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:56

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mavqt wrote...
I'm going to risk it. (Posting in the Miranda thread)

Regards to Miranda in the 'Retake Omega' DLC. Wouldn't she be too busy looking for Ori, or would she be going there for specific infomation on Ori's location?

Didn't she say that infomation lead her to Sanctuary?

As a apology, have a Miranda


I would appreciate it very much if *that* storyline didn't also tie in with Oriana. We've all complained that Miranda thinks too much about Oriana and not enough about Cerberus and the Reapers, and how that's out of character for her. I'd absolutely hate it if that comes up *yet again*.

I don't care how they'll do it, but Bioware should keep anything Oriana-related out of any future MIranda content, thrice damn it!

Modifié par Ieldra2, 10 août 2012 - 09:57 .

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:59

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True, Ieldra, but if it's slotting into the existing story it needs to acknowledge that aspect. She's not on the Normandy because of this search, so people will be wondering why she has forgotten that.

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Babi_Siha
Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:01

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I would appreciate it very much if *that* storyline didn't also tie in with Oriana. We've all complained that Miranda thinks too much about Oriana and not enough about Cerberus and the Reapers, and how that's out of character for her. I'd absolutely hate it if that comes up *yet again*.

I don't care how they'll do it, but Bioware should keep anything Oriana-related out of any future MIranda content, thrice damn it!


While I agree that anything more about Oriana will be awful, but it's hard coming up with something unrelated to her before Sanctuary.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:05

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hot_heart wrote...

True, Ieldra, but if it's slotting into the existing story it needs to acknowledge that aspect. She's not on the Normandy because of this search, so people will be wondering why she has forgotten that.


There's also that. Unfortunately Oriana will have to be her motivation for going there.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:06

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I would appreciate it very much if *that* storyline didn't also tie in with Oriana. We've all complained that Miranda thinks too much about Oriana and not enough about Cerberus and the Reapers, and how that's out of character for her. I'd absolutely hate it if that comes up *yet again*.

I don't care how they'll do it, but Bioware should keep anything Oriana-related out of any future MIranda content, thrice damn it!


Yeah exactly. It is perfectly possible for her to be on Omega as a personal favour to Petrovsky or her attempting to build the groundwork for her later Cerberus reneagdes while she's waiting to find some lead as to where to go next to find Oriana. The idea that Miranda isn't allowed to do anything other than look for Oriana 24/7 is ridiculous.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:13

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Babi_Siha wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

True, Ieldra, but if it's slotting into the existing story it needs to acknowledge that aspect. She's not on the Normandy because of this search, so people will be wondering why she has forgotten that.


There's also that. Unfortunately Oriana will have to be her motivation for going there.


That doesn't mean it needs more than a single line of dialogue to wave it away.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:14

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

True, Ieldra, but if it's slotting into the existing story it needs to acknowledge that aspect. She's not on the Normandy because of this search, so people will be wondering why she has forgotten that.


There's also that. Unfortunately Oriana will have to be her motivation for going there.


That doesn't mean it needs more than a single line of dialogue to wave it away.


On that I more than agree with you.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:20

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Didn't Miranda say, "If I need a door kicked down, I know who to call."

But didn't she also say, "I need to do this on my own."?

Or am I mixing lines?

Also, +1 with Lance.
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