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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Well yea, just giving us a "good luck" doesn't mean much. It only takes meaning when we know it's romance exclusive.

I mean something like "please, at least try to be careful" or "take care of yourself, or i'll have to save you again" could of been better

By the way Taboo, isn't kinda late where you are ?.

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o Ventus wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Because every NPC you meet wants to get into your pants. Wasn't that obvious?

Gah, some people...


Because people here were saying or implying that, or otherwise posting with that as the underlying message.

Wait...


I was responding to Yannkee's comment about every character saying "Good luck", so it wasn't romantic.

Granted I was being a smart ass, but still.

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It's past 3:00 AM. I'm always up late. Thinking, debating, watching things. I get things done at night. And if I'm not doing anything I might as well be here talking about Miranda.

I'm not working tomorrow so I'm not exactly planning a sleep cycle.

Miranda DOES says she wants you to be careful, but it's in Sanctuary. She does care.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

The fade to black does give you the ability to have them do whatever you want them to in your head.

I suppose that isn't enough for most people though.

Anything they do in your head is going to be far nastier than anything Bioware can show you.

She sends other messages too, like one after Sanctuary telling you that she's alright and is getting patched up.


I don't need things to get nasty, I need real romance content.
I hate when people are too lazy to write or create content and let people guess what could happen. 
I don't want to imagine things. I want to know what Bioware's Miranda thinks and feels ... 

In ME2 I had a very emotional scene (when Miranda asks Shepard to promise not to die), and a passionate one in the engine room. In ME3 I've got nothing. There is a sweet moment during the first scene on the citadel, and that's all.
It is not enough.

And stop with this stupid app, all content should be in the game.

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Yes, there was passion in that scene and it ends when it needs to.

But the scene in the apartment wasn't about just that for me.

It's about two people who care about each other.

They can no longer resist one another.

And, for a short time, the troubles of the galaxy go away.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 11 août 2012 - 09:30 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes, there was passion in that scene and it ends when it needs to.

But the scene in the apartment wasn't about just that for me.

It's about two people who care about each other.

They can no longer resist one another.

And, for a short time, the troubles of the galaxy go away.


Not entirely untrue.

But try something, just a fun little experiment.

Look at the romance scenes (not just the engine room, but all of the romance dialogues) from ME2 and compare it to ME3's. If the disparity in quality isn't apparent off the bat, it likely won't take a ton of digging to hit.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes, there was passion in that scene and it ends when it needs to.

But the scene in the apartment wasn't about just that for me.

It's about two people who care about each other.

They can no longer resist one another.

And, for a short time, the troubles of the galaxy go away.

 

It's also how I interpret this short scene.

But it doesn't change the unsatisfying amount of romance content (like every other Miranda content in this game).

Modifié par Yannkee, 11 août 2012 - 09:45 .


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o Ventus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes, there was passion in that scene and it ends when it needs to.

But the scene in the apartment wasn't about just that for me.

It's about two people who care about each other.

They can no longer resist one another.

And, for a short time, the troubles of the galaxy go away.


Not entirely untrue.

But try something, just a fun little experiment.

Look at the romance scenes (not just the engine room, but all of the romance dialogues) from ME2 and compare it to ME3's. If the disparity in quality isn't apparent off the bat, it likely won't take a ton of digging to hit.


There is no comparison. The scene in the engine room is months of stress being blown (lol) off. Very passionate, very...open with sexuality.

The same goes for the dialouge in ME2. Taking the Paragon path Miranda openly states she wouldn't mind you admiring her body.

Looking at ME3 she still very much cares, but all of that emotion is tucked away. It only comes out if you break up with her OR you let her die.

The scene in the Apartment is no where near the level of work that the previous game had.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

The scene in the Apartment is no where near the level of work that the previous game had.


Which is my point. I was never arguing the meaning of the content in the game as opposed to the content itself. In hindsight, I should have clarified.

The content in ME2 is just... Better than a large portion of what's in ME3.

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She was also the XO in ME2. The content was better because she was on the ship, not on the run.

If you had more time to talk to her, and Oriana wasn't in trouble, I'd imagine Miranda would be right there with Shepard.

Perhaps a good DLC could give us some of that old magic back. And a romance scene for those inclined.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She was also the XO in ME2. The content was better because she was on the ship, not on the run.


Let us not forget that the only reason Miranda is on the run and not on the Normandy is because Bioware made Shepard into an idiot who is afraid of asking if people need help.

Miranda: I have to do this myself.

Shepard: Alrighty then!

Evene more so than the endings, my biggest problem with ME3 is how they made Shepard into such a mouth-breathing idiot.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She was also the XO in ME2. The content was better because she was on the ship, not on the run.

If you had more time to talk to her, and Oriana wasn't in trouble, I'd imagine Miranda would be right there with Shepard.

Perhaps a good DLC could give us some of that old magic back. And a romance scene for those inclined.



This is why I considered Miranda's squadmate status in ME3 so important (even temporary). It was the only way to have enough time with her.

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I think having a good solid DLC with her might make replays more likely.

My Shepard is lonely for 97% of the game.

She could help flesh Cerberus out more too.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I think having a good solid DLC with her might make replays more likely.


The only reason why I would reinstall and play the game once again.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I think having a good solid DLC with her might make replays more likely.

My Shepard is lonely for 97% of the game.

She could help flesh Cerberus out more too.


Retake Omega.

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Awhile back, Mike Gamble tweeted something along the lines of, "Did anyone else notice the alternate memorial scene for the destroy ending?" To which I replied, "Yes, and Miranda couldn't even bother to show up." And he responded, "Yeah, we're working on that one..."

I'm not sure what to make of that, but perhaps we could be seeing some DLC featuring Miranda after all. : )

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I think having a good solid DLC with her might make replays more likely.

My Shepard is lonely for 97% of the game.

She could help flesh Cerberus out more too.

That happens and i'll jump to the ceiling yelling like a lttle the girl.

But seeing how Bioware feels towards Miranda, i just really don't get my hopes up. It's quite clear Bioware listens to the fan feedback that suits them.

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Captain Scruff N7 wrote...

Awhile back, Mike Gamble tweeted something along the lines of, "Did anyone else notice the alternate memorial scene for the destroy ending?" To which I replied, "Yes, and Miranda couldn't even bother to show up." And he responded, "Yeah, we're working on that one..."

I'm not sure what to make of that, but perhaps we could be seeing some DLC featuring Miranda after all. : )

Nah, Gamble misinterpreted and was talking about a bug where a Miranda slide doesn't appear unless romanced

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Ah, that makes sense. But Patrick Weekes did tease ME2 squad-related DLC awhile back, and he seems like one of the more reliable BioWare staff members. Although these days, one has to take everything BioWare says with a grain of salt.

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*Deus Ex: Human Revolution spoilers*

If it were Miranda at the Panchaea complex instead of Adam Jensen, which ending choice do you think she would make? Expose the Illuminati and abolish augmentations, edit Darrow's message, or destroy it? If she would choose to edit it, would she choose to edit it at Sarif's suggestion (denouncing anti-augmentation groups and making augmentations more mainstream) or at Taggart's (The fundamental opposite of Sarif's)?

Modifié par o Ventus, 11 août 2012 - 10:47 .


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o Ventus wrote...

*Deus Ex: Human Revolution spoilers*

If it were Miranda at the Panchaea complex instead of Adam Jensen, which ending choice do you think she would make? Expose the Illuminati and abolish augmentations, edit Darrow's message, or destroy it? If she would choose to edit it, would she choose to edit it at Sarif's suggestion (denouncing anti-augmentation groups and making augmentations more mainstream) or at Taggart's (The fundamental opposite of Sarif's)?


I don't why, but I think she would do Sarif's Suggestion. 
Scratch that one, I think She'd want to regulate human enhancements. Miri's not an idiot to let everyone just have powerful augments running around doing some crazy stuff. At least, in my point of view.

Additional: I finished the game thrice, and I always chose to blow up that base.

Modifié par ChrisRudson, 11 août 2012 - 11:00 .


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Speaking of Deus Ex, am I the only one who sat and pondered for a second about the ending choice? With ME3, I was pretty set from the start that I had planned on the Destroy ending. The Deus Ex ending choices are actually somewhat difficult and make you think.

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o Ventus wrote...

Speaking of Deus Ex, am I the only one who sat and pondered for a second about the ending choice? With ME3, I was pretty set from the start that I had planned on the Destroy ending. The Deus Ex ending choices are actually somewhat difficult and make you think.


Not just you, I had a hard time choosing which I should choose the first time I played it. After I finished it, I looked up the endings on youtube(all 12 endings). They're all great, at least in my opinion. But, everytime I finished it, I always choose the Self-Destruct Sequence.

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Haaaa...don't go too far with the deus ex spoilers, i still have to play it XD

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kratos0294 wrote...

Haaaa...don't go too far with the deus ex spoilers, i still have to play it XD


Ooops, sorry about that. Let this wizard clear what you've read :wizard: