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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

massiveattack3612 wrote...

Jack cant blame Miranda for what happened to her at the Teltin Facility. She needs to get over herself. Shes not one of my favorites.

This! Talk about dwelling in the damn past for to damn long. 

Miri had nothing to do with her experiments. We bust our asses trying to destroy the damn run-down facicility. Then instead of showing gratitude, she threatens Miri's life, which is highly unforgivable.

I'm deeply Sorry for bashing, but jack's horrid actions grind my gears.<_<

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:12 .

[Caihn]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Well, if that had happened to one of my first few playthroughs, I would've vented him out tha airlock. I've seen it and it made me like Garrus less. I don't see why he'd start blaming Miranda for something like that. Silly turian.

I also discovered this scene later on youtube ... I was disappointed and he's clearly not one of my favorite character anymore.

I never knew Garrus would do such a thing. If only there was an option to tell him or jack that they are out of line or something similar. 

I really hate it when jack says it. The option of telling jack to shut up would make me feel better.<_<.

Personally I choose Miranda as 1st fire team leader now. I don't remember exactly what Shepard says, but it always feel good to side with Miranda in front of Jack.

Besides she's the best squadmate for this job.

Modifié par Yannkee, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:15 .

[MisterJB]

massiveattack3612 wrote...

Jack cant blame Miranda for what happened to her at the Teltin Facility. She needs to get over herself.

Jack really doesn't blame Miranda for what happened. She blames Cerberus and thus, feels the need to lash out against anyone who believes in the organization.
Still, I agree with the underlined part. I expected her to calm down once it became obvious that Cerberus was not to blame for what happened in Pragia.

Pwnisher wrote...

I went with Miri and Liara for the poll. They seem like they would get along together, sorta like how Miranda fans get along with Liara fans.

We do?

[ShepardsIdol]

Melrache wrote...

It can't be -that- distracting..

 Anyway, I'll have to start planning my final playthrough. I want it to be the ''best possible playthrough for -me-'' doesn't mean it's the happiest. Will have to think how I'll play the romance this time. Though if the Paragon/Renegade routes for the romance don't mean different experience in ME3, I'll probably just play it normally.

I got a few more playthroughs to plan out since my xbox just died. First i have a Ashley loyalist that listens to all of her advice like kill the rachni queen and stuff like that, Then my Mirimancer loyalist where i listen to her and not activate Grunt and turn Legion in for studies. Finally i will make my personal shep where i end up romancing Miranda ultimately cuz she rules and make all the choices i would make, like cheat on Ash for the much better (in my opinion) Miranda

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

Still, I agree with the underlined part. I expected her to calm down once it became obvious that Cerberus was not to blame for what happened in Pragia.

THIS

MisterJB wrote...

We do?

I have a friend here who is a liaramancer.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:15 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yannkee wrote...


Personally I choose Miranda as 1st fire team leader now. I don't remember exactly what Shepard says, but it always feel good to side with Miranda in front of Jack.

Besides she's the best squadmate for this job.

I agree. Miri is a great leader IMHO. It's fun to prove those who doubt Miri and her abilities wrong lol.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:24 .

[Melra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Still, I agree with the underlined part. I expected her to calm down once it became obvious that Cerberus was not to blame for what happened in Pragia.

THIS

MisterJB wrote...

We do?

I have a friend here who is a liaramancer.

I have friends who are Jackmancers, doesn't still mean all get along well with Jackmancers. IT doesn't really even matter, no matter what ''group'' you belong to, every person is different.

[LuxDragon]

I must in a minority then, since I actually do blame Cerberus for Pragia. At the very least, they started it up. I blame TIM for hammering down on a bunch of scienists for results, which force them to embrace their inner mad scientists and go off the rails.

And because of that, they aren't part of Cerberus anymore...? I'm sure when you destroy someone's life and kill a bunch of kids, there's plenty of blame to go around.

Events like that isn't really something you 'get over'. Especially since Cerberus was still actively hunting her and put up a bounty.

Of course, since she was attacking Cerberus facilities... meh.

Modifié par LuxDragon, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:29 .

[Ieldra]

MegaBadExample wrote...
I think Miranda and Kaidan would make a good BioWare couple.
She was in a relationship with Jacob wasnt she? Jacob and Miranda....It doesn't fit. But that's just me.

No, it's not just you. It didn't work out, after all

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Melrache wrote...


I have friends who are Jackmancers, doesn't still mean all get along well with Jackmancers. IT doesn't really even matter, no matter what ''group'' you belong to, every person is different.

Yeah. I guess so. Some friends I have here despise Miri. But I have to live with it.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:31 .

[Caihn]

LuxDragon wrote...

I must in a minority then, since I actually do blame Cerberus for Pragia. At the very least, they started it up. I blame TIM for hammering down on a bunch of scienists for results, which force them to embrace their inner mad scientists and go off the rails.

And because of that, they aren't part of Cerberus anymore...? I'm sure when you destroy someone's life and kill a bunch of kids, there's plenty of blame to go around.

Even if it's the case, you can blame TIM ... but not Miranda.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yannkee wrote...


Even if it's the case, you can blame TIM ... but not Miranda.

THIS!

Miri started to have her doubts about Cerberus. I believe it started in the Collector ship, right?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:34 .

[Caihn]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Miri started to have her doubts about Cerberus. I believe it started in the Collector ship, right?

This has nothing to do with her doubts about Cerberus.
It's just that she was not involved in the project, so nobody can blame her for what happened there.

Modifié par Yannkee, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:36 .

[Ieldra]

LuxDragon wrote...
I must in a minority then, since I actually do blame Cerberus for Pragia. At the very least, they started it up. I blame TIM for hammering down on a bunch of scienists for results, which force them to embrace their inner mad scientists and go off the rails.

I do blame TIM for Pragia. But not Miranda. That's the difference. Regarding Jack, she agreed to be part of a mission, *and* I followed her wish and let her blow up the Teltin facility. Totally appropriate, that. But after that I expect her to act as a part of the mission and put her differences with the Cerberus personnel on board aside for now. That she can't do that is the reason I usually side with Miranda.

 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:37 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yannkee wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Miri started to have her doubts about Cerberus. I believe it started in the Collector ship, right?

This has nothing to do with her doubts about Cerberus.
It's just that she was not involved in the project, so nobody can blame her for what happened there.

True.

But even so. She did start to have doubts either way.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

There was a vid. Where you pic the opition "He betrayed us" or something similar on the Collector base. Then Miri said something, but it sounded as if she wasn't sure. Like denial.

[Melra]

Yeah, well her having doubts has been discussed to death by now, everyone has their own opinion on when she began to have doubts and it all depends on what order you play through it. It doesn't matter in the end, the result is all that matters in this case, imo.

Modifié par Melrache, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:47 .

[Ieldra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
But even so. She did start to have doubts either way.

I contest that. On the Collector ship, she says her line only if you choose "he betrayed us" in the conversation after EDI's information came through - and I find it more appropriate to take the middle option there and wait for TIM's explanation before I draw wrong conclusions. When you get back, even Jacob, who's more distrustful of TIM, takes his explanation at face value. Then there's the fact that TIM would've had nothing to gain from making Shepard fail. No, there is no single piece of evidence that Miranda has doubts about Cerberus, and instead, strong evidence that she hasn't - see the second romance scene.

@Melrache:
Yes, but we don't know the result yet. We know she resigns if you tale her to the final boss and destroy the base, but we don't really know why she remains loyal to Shepard, and we don't know her status if you don't take her to the final boss or if you keep the base. It can go either way in ME3.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:50 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@Melrache:
Yes, but we don't know the result yet. We know she resigns if you tale her to the final boss and destroy the base, but we don't really know why she remains loyal to Shepard. It can go either way in ME3.

Seeing Cerberus indoctrinated. Miri would definitely be against Cerberus. If she did support Cerberus, except the experiments, she would see that everything she stood for down the tubes.

[LuxDragon]

I like this one:



Oh, and I put up a new chapter. I need to finish it before ME 3 come out!

[Melra]

We don't know that, she might just as well be indoctrinated herself on some playthroughs.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Well in my Playthrough, which I as you say "Meta Game," Miri always resigns. I just hope it turns out for the best. But what concerns me is Ieldra saying "It can go either way in ME3."

[Caihn]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

There was a vid. Where you pic the opition "He betrayed us" or something similar on the Collector base. Then Miri said something, but it sounded as if she wasn't sure. Like denial.

Yes, to me she starts having doubts during this mission, doubts confirmed later during the game. But I don't want to discuss this topic again.

[Melra]

No point in worrying about things you can't do anything about. It's one that will be properly dealt, when it's relevant.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Melrache wrote...

No point in worrying about things you can't do anything about. It's one that will be properly dealt, when it's relevant.

Ok. I shall not worry.