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[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...

...science-y things

I knew it!!!

Seriously. Why make these things more complicated than they have to be?

As any Star Trek fan knows, you just... tech the tech! Problem solved!

Modifié par flemm, 14 août 2012 - 01:19 .

[hot_heart]

lillitheris wrote...
The whole ‘you are partly synthetic yourself’ is a total red herring. If the pulse actually affected things as unsophisticated as cybernetic augmentations, every single electronic thing in the galaxy would break.

Yeah. Personally, I never even entertained that thought. And if the game's reasoning is that it concerns Reaper tech, I don't recall any being used in rebuilding Shepard.

Modifié par hot_heart, 14 août 2012 - 01:20 .

[jtav]

I could really use something happy right now.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

I could really use something happy right now.

That's a pretty broad request. Did you have something specific in mind? An image? A story? "Happy Thoughts: An Anthology" by Flemm? (Available for only a small fee on your iPhone, Kindle, Nook and by mail order. No assembly required. Actual happiness not guaranteed.)

Modifié par flemm, 14 août 2012 - 02:28 .

[jtav]

Image. Fic link. Anything for a badly-needed pick-me-up.

[hot_heart]

Hopefully the Firm Friends one-shot in my sig is a little amusing.

/shamelessplug
/freeunlikeflemm'sNONSENSE!

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Image. Fic link. Anything for a badly-needed pick-me-up.

Happy now?

Modifié par flemm, 14 août 2012 - 02:35 .

[LanceSolous13]

I'm not sure if Miranda could pull the plug on Shepard. She might need encouragement from someone else, like Kaidan or Garrus or Tali to pull the plug.

[Taboo]

lillitheris wrote...

The whole ‘you are partly synthetic yourself’ is a total red herring. If the pulse actually affected things as unsophisticated as cybernetic augmentations, every single electronic thing in the galaxy would break.

One might head canon that he's appealing to emotion.

He's trying to create a link between Shepard and Synthetics, in order to make them relatable. Shepard is more than capable than living without him though.

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
This question has been driving me crazy:

Is the Shepard-Controller capable of loving Miranda? On the one side we have "your connection to your kind will be lost" but on the other side we have Joker/EDI. If that's valid, he/it should be able to care for her still.

"Your connection to your kind will be lost", means the loss of the empathic connection to other organics, but Shepard-Controller *is* made to care about them, or he wouldn't be able to fulfil his purpose.

EDI says "I am not totally free of motivations". Neither would the Shepard-Controller be. If you are not free of motivations, then by definition, love it still possible. It might be a strange kind of love, though, driven by the wish to see Miranda flourish and deep analysis of her character rather than empathy. It would be devoid of desire, platonic really. He might want to recover those lost parts, but that won't be possible unless a part of Shepard-Controller can download into a body made for that kind of thing, since it's made rather clear that these things did not transfer to his ascended state.

Exactly. And in my version, that is precisely why a seemingly human Shepard returns for a time. Of course Shepard's feelings were ascended along with everything else. But they are incompatible with this new state of being. Nevertheless, Commander is compelled to manifest them in a way that is compatible. I will say no more.

[Lawrence0294]

jtav wrote...

Image. Fic link. Anything for a badly-needed pick-me-up.

A bit late but here you go 

Modifié par kratos0294, 14 août 2012 - 04:59 .

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...
/shamelessplug
/freeunlikeflemm'sNONSENSE!

Hmmmm, looks like I'll be sending you a copy of "World's Greatest Vulgar and Insulting Gestures (Illustrated Edition)" instead


Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?

No, but I do bite my thumb.

Modifié par flemm, 14 août 2012 - 05:45 .

[hot_heart]

flemm wrote...
Hmmmm, looks like I'll be sending you a copy of "World's Greatest Vulgar and Insulting Gestures (Illustrated Edition)" instead

I never asked for this.

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...
I never asked for this.

For some reason, people rarely do

[hot_heart]

Hey, you remember when the Tali thread shot ahead in post count? Well, it appears we're not that far 'behind' now.

Not that I'm suggesting anything, oh heavens no...

p.s. where is everybody?

[Taboo]

^ I'm here. You can bother me.

I'm off work and have nothing to do. Not that I'm terribly interesting but still.

Is there a Miranda related topic you'd like to discuss?

[hot_heart]

I was listening to some Who because they are excellent and I remembered them being mentioned. I think you had said Behind Blue Eyes reminded you of Miranda and I had a funny thought:

If my fist clenches, crack it open...before it glows blue and I hurl my father out of a window

Oh, hey, look a picture.

[krukow]

If you all make a doll, I'm sure you'll shoot right by the talimancers.

...and then get locked.

You all think Miranda knew about that admiral Cerberus had killed in ME1? This has probably come up before, but I'm just thinking of it now, and I'm curious. Her explanation for the experiments in ME1 made sense (non-sentient shock troops, though you can see how that might lead to Mr. Lawson's experiments someday), but I'd be curious how she'd rationalize that one. Assuming she knew about it...

[hot_heart]

Is a bit odd that Shepard neglected to confront her about that particular detail.

"I've seen your experiments AND A GUY YOU KILLED."

[Taboo]

Most musical reference are made by me in this thread unfortunately.

Cerberus cells do not communicate with one another. Miranda only knows what she hears from the news and other things.

This is why she's so surprised when TIM does what he does, especially on the Collector Ship.

It ISN'T the Cerberus she wants to be a part of.

[krukow]

Well, okay, but does that mean she was in charge of the cells that did all those experiments? If cells don't talk, she'd have to be directly involved to know about it, right?

[o Ventus]

krukow wrote...

If you all make a doll, I'm sure you'll shoot right by the talimancers.

...and then get locked.

You all think Miranda knew about that admiral Cerberus had killed in ME1? This has probably come up before, but I'm just thinking of it now, and I'm curious. Her explanation for the experiments in ME1 made sense (non-sentient shock troops, though you can see how that might lead to Mr. Lawson's experiments someday), but I'd be curious how she'd rationalize that one. Assuming she knew about it...

Well, Kahoku was investigating his Marines, who were killed by Cerberus. I rationalize it as Kahoku being killed because if he found out all the details, he would go public and Cerberus would be in deep s**t, so they had him killed.

[LanceSolous13]

She also never brings up Akuze. : / Poor Corpral Toombs.

I think she would know. She needed to know every inch of Shepard; from his body to his history. History that relates to Cerberus would be the easiest to find but I'm not sure if maybe Cerberus covered their tracks to an extent. Such as files showing data on the Creepers and Rachni but not that Admeral Kohoku was murdered and put in a cage with them.

Maybe Shepard opened Miranda's eyes to the forgotten details and that's why she later quits?

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Well, okay, but does that mean she was in charge of the cells that did all those experiments? If cells don't talk, she'd have to be directly involved to know about it, right?

No because that stuf leaked out. Shepard knows, Garrus knows, the public knows.

She attempts to justify it by saying they were not sentient.

It bothers her because...SHE HAS EMOTIONS.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 14 août 2012 - 08:07 .

[Ieldra]

o Ventus wrote...

krukow wrote...

If you all make a doll, I'm sure you'll shoot right by the talimancers.

...and then get locked.

You all think Miranda knew about that admiral Cerberus had killed in ME1? This has probably come up before, but I'm just thinking of it now, and I'm curious. Her explanation for the experiments in ME1 made sense (non-sentient shock troops, though you can see how that might lead to Mr. Lawson's experiments someday), but I'd be curious how she'd rationalize that one. Assuming she knew about it...

Well, Kahoku was investigating his Marines, who were killed by Cerberus. I rationalize it as Kahoku being killed because if he found out all the details, he would go public and Cerberus would be in deep s**t, so they had him killed.

Exactly. If someone uncovers your important secrets, you can't just let him go public with it. She'd have called it an unfortunate necessity, but such are the rules of the covert operations game.