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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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krukow wrote...

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That's still compensation.

People who do that have a tendency to be unstable.

He's nothing more than a horn dog looking for the next piece of ass.


That's every guy ever.  Ever ever.

Martin Luther King Jr committed adultery.

"Men are as faithful as their options"
Chris Rock


The best part is that this particular stereotype can go both ways.

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o Ventus wrote...

The best part is that this particular stereotype can go both ways.



Adultery committed Martin Luther King. Jr.?

Options are as faithful as their men?

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flemm wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

The best part is that this particular stereotype can go both ways.



Adultery committed Martin Luther King. Jr.?

Options are as faithful as their men?


Only in Soviet Russia.

/youknewwhatiwastalkingabout

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flemm wrote...
In passing, I've always found it amusing that TIM seems to think that Miranda can handle Shepard and the other squaddie who is there Posted Image

"You did install that control chip, right, Miranda?"
"You told me not to!"
"Now's not the time to be pointing fingers..."

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Not entirely true.

I look back to 1972 with a little film called Last Tango in Paris.

Not only is that Marlon Brando's best performance, it's an example of having sex as an inability to connect with others.

Brando ****s because he can't connect any other way. This would be countered by the far more explicit Ai no Corrida in 1976.

It's a crutch to stave things off.

It's no different than a drug addiction.

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hot_heart wrote...
"Now's not the time to be pointing fingers..."



"Grunt, behind you! Another wave of Collector Drones!"

*kicks him off the platform*

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"If we lose Shepard humanity might well follow." Shepard is a more important figure than TIM himself.

Maybe TIM's last order to Miranda betrayed some of her trust to him, just remember the talk betwen her and TIM on Cronos.

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And well, she gave up two years of her life to rebuild Shepard. Lazarus was her crowning achievement, and now TIM wants her to throw it away, just as her sisters were thrown away.

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Skullheart wrote...

"If we lose Shepard humanity might well follow." Shepard is a more important figure than TIM himself.

Maybe TIM's last order to Miranda betrayed some of her trust to him, just remember the talk betwen her and TIM on Cronos.


As in during the Suicide Mission, the Illusive Man was going against Shepard's moral ideals to destroy the base?
Effectively betraying humanity in the process.

"I'm gonna win this war, and I'll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species."

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Skullheart wrote...

"If we lose Shepard humanity might well follow." Shepard is a more important figure than TIM himself.

Maybe TIM's last order to Miranda betrayed some of her trust to him, just remember the talk betwen her and TIM on Cronos.

Yeah, and the "Or what? You'll replace me next?" line affirms this. She's gradually come to appreciate herself as more than a highly-skilled 'tool' and that Shepard certainly isn't.

Though, I guess some of that might come from the romance path? Though the control chip stuff shows that change of heart, regardless of romance.

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dtrain24 wrote...
As in during the Suicide Mission, the Illusive Man was going against Shepard's moral ideals to destroy the base?
Effectively betraying humanity in the process.

"I'm gonna win this war, and I'll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species."


Well, I think that, however else you want to interpret Miranda's morality, she really does want to protect humanity, and she really does want to save the lives of those colonists. She may be willing to do some morally questionable things to accomplish that goal (in fact, definitely), but she sincerely wants to accomplish it.

She is not really interested in personal power the way TIM is (see also: how she accepts Shepard once s/he shows that s/he is going to cooperate and handle the mission). That is the difference, really. TIM says he is interested in humanity, but really he is only interested in his own aggrandizement.

So, that is the fundamental issue. And I think that, where the base is concerned, she was able to tell that TIM was not interested in serving humanity with this. But just as a means to augment his own power and influence.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

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He would be jealous, because he couldn't do it.


His dossier states that he's slept with six women in one week.

He compensates so much it's not even funny.

But one of his most trusted agents going against him like that.

Bahahahaha.

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^ LOL

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flemm wrote...

But just as a means to augment his own power and influence.


And that is why you don't entrust a base with the technology for building robot cuttlefish to somebody who talks like Martin Sheen.

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dtrain24 wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

"If we lose Shepard humanity might well follow." Shepard is a more important figure than TIM himself.

Maybe TIM's last order to Miranda betrayed some of her trust to him, just remember the talk betwen her and TIM on Cronos.


As in during the Suicide Mission, the Illusive Man was going against Shepard's moral ideals to destroy the base?
Effectively betraying humanity in the process.

"I'm gonna win this war, and I'll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species."

Well remember, TIM has no real issue if your idealism and sense of morality is vastly different from him.  TIM is VERY honest and forthcoming about his motivations throughout the entire series, and it's part of what makes him such a charismatic anti-hero, at least until ME3 where his facade starts to crumble under the strength of the Reapers.  The only time in ME2 that TIM gets legitimately angry with Shepard is if he destroys the base and that's largely because it's a major setback in his plans.  

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Oh, that reminds me. Is that image TIM has there, one of the same you see Miranda looking at in the Control ending slide? Maybe this was discussed...

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o Ventus wrote...
And that is why you don't entrust a base with the technology for building robot cuttlefish to somebody who talks like Martin Sheen.



It was weird watching the Amazing Spiderman for that reason.

I just couldn't buy the Illusive Man as the wise mentor figure (Uncle Ben).

I was like: what is he really up to here? What are his real objectives? Posted Image

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o Ventus wrote...

flemm wrote...

But just as a means to augment his own power and influence.


And that is why you don't entrust a base with the technology for building robot cuttlefish to somebody who talks like Martin Sheen.


I got giddy when he said "dossiers" though.

He says it all the time in Apocalypse Now.

I would have preferred Werner Herzog.

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hot_heart wrote...

Oh, that reminds me. Is that image TIM has there, one of the same you see Miranda looking at in the Control ending slide? Maybe this was discussed...

Yes, it is the same.

Shepard has the same also at the end of the suicide mission. I believe it's some data on Harbinger as we can see the yellow lights on it. It's probaly just a re-skin in the Miranda slide though

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kratos0294 wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Oh, that reminds me. Is that image TIM has there, one of the same you see Miranda looking at in the Control ending slide? Maybe this was discussed...

Yes, it is the same.

Shepard has the same also at the end of the suicide mission. I believe it's some data on Harbinger as we can see the yellow lights on it. It's probaly just a re-skin in the Miranda slide though


It's a reskin for both TIM and Miranda.

Is Harbinger the only Reaper people care to look at?

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Is Harbinger the only Reaper people care to look at?


Well, insectile techno-organic conglomerates of long-dead alien races aren't usually my type.

But, all things considered, he's really quite attractive Posted Image

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Harbinger IS the oldest Reaper after all.

And if the data mining is to be believed, we'll learn a bit more about him in Leviathan.

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flemm wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Is Harbinger the only Reaper people care to look at?


Well, insectile techno-organic conglomerates of long-dead alien races aren't usually my type.

But, all things considered, he's really quite attractive Posted Image

Support for Harbinger as squadmate and Romance DLC :P

 

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kratos0294 wrote...

Support for Harbinger as squadmate and Romance DLC :P

 

I...you...oh dear.  :?

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I just finished a game where I romanced the VS and it really drove home how much the email and slides did for Miranda. Not that I wouldn't like more Miranda content, but I know now that Shep was only seeing a piece of the puzzle and she was also leading a crack team while fretting over Ori. And I know she's working on something significant post-war. The team will never get that.