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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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KyleR92

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What's this email from Miranda people keep mentioning? Is it something new added in by the EC?

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flemm wrote...

This is pretty cool...

*snip*

http://threshermaw.d...t.com/#/d5b5a3v


It's called "Crashing the Party." In reference to that line in the last conversation, I guess?

Oh, right. Now, everyone notices the cosplay I'd linked at least three times.

Thanks, guys. :(

Also, I don't have a 'head canon' either, flemm. I even hate the term. :P

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MisterJB wrote...

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What did she DO to Veetor? O_o


*snip*

I expect Veetor was unresponsive because he is unstable and was in an unfamiliar environment, much like he is when Shepard finds him. So, Cerberus gave him drugs to keep him lucid.

Cheers for this! Interesting use of distancing in the language choice she has there. I would say that I don't think she carried out the interrogation...but I could understand a case being made for the opposite.

KyleR92 wrote...

What's this email from Miranda people keep mentioning? Is it something new added in by the EC?

It's not an email from Miranda but one about her (well, to her, but not from Shepard).

Modifié par hot_heart, 15 août 2012 - 10:55 .


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I wonder why everyone assumes their playthrough is canon. 


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Because they're talking about their Shepard? And for those people, it is canon.

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o Ventus wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder why everyone assumes their playthrough is canon. 


Because they're talking about their Shepard? And for those people, it is canon.

Then they should make it clear that they're talking about *their* Shepard.

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Ieldra2 wrote...
Then they should make it clear that they're talking about *their* Shepard.

They were responding to someone talking about that course of events. What you're asking sounds like you want people to put 'IMO' at the end of their posts. :P

Modifié par hot_heart, 15 août 2012 - 12:20 .


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KyleR92 wrote...

What's this email from Miranda people keep mentioning? Is it something new added in by the EC?


It's actually not from Miranda, but about Miranda. It's something you get at the SB terminal after Sanctuary. Basically it explains that she and some other operatives (presumably also ex-Cerberus) have been taking out Cerberus bases and other fun stuff.

Edit: Oops, hot_heart already answered this. Posted Image

IMO, in my head, relative to MY Shepard, subjectively speaking. Posted Image

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Ieldra2 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder why everyone assumes their playthrough is canon. 


Because they're talking about their Shepard? And for those people, it is canon.

Then they should make it clear that they're talking about *their* Shepard.


My Shepard is better than your Shepard.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder why everyone assumes their playthrough is canon. 


Because they're talking about their Shepard? And for those people, it is canon.

Then they should make it clear that they're talking about *their* Shepard.


It should be obvious that they are talking about *their* Shepard, unless they specifically say they're talking about someone elses. In which case, they are still talking about a "personal shepard" and therefore doesn't align with everyones view of him anyway.

Either way, there is no overall canon and everyone is free to interpret motives, desires, and speech in anyway they please. None of them are wrong, despite the differing opinions among their peers.

I'm really not trying to sound rude, but sometimes I think people forget that nearly everything about Shepard is completely up to the individual.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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I just finished a game where I romanced the VS and it really drove home how much the email and slides did for Miranda. Not that I wouldn't like more Miranda content, but I know now that Shep was only seeing a piece of the puzzle and she was also leading a crack team while fretting over Ori. And I know she's working on something significant post-war. The team will never get that.

Yeah, the email and the slides save her presence in ME3 from being a total failure, but nothing can repair the absence of a Miranda/Cerberus arc, because had she had a significant impact on the big picture there, we would know about it. I was talking with Elyvern yesterday about how Miranda and Shepard were equals in ME2 and how ME3 destroyed that.
It may be hard to be equal to a living legend, but Miranda had her own legendary achievement in ME2. All that was needed was an impressive role and presence in the Cerberus plot...



I don't mean that it fixed her completely. But it saved me from writing her off the way I have Ash. It was damage control, but at least she got damage control and I will cheerfully sacrifice romance for that.

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I thought it was evident that everyone was talking about their own interpretations. You can't agree on everything, but you can intersect at certain points. That's what makes Miranda a great character. There are SO many ways you can interpret her.

That being said, Ieldra, you don't have to take everything I post seriously, and I'm always talking about my canon unless I specify otherwise.

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flemm wrote...
IMO, in my head, relative to MY Shepard, subjectively speaking. Posted Image

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your interpretation, man.
(Someone must get that reference, even if they haven't seen the film).

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hot_heart wrote...

flemm wrote...
IMO, in my head, relative to MY Shepard, subjectively speaking. Posted Image

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your interpretation, man.
(Someone must get that reference, even if they haven't seen the film).


Jeff Bridges has a cabin in Montana. He isn't JUST like the Big Lebowski but he's laid back like that. He'd sit and have a beer with you. No bull****.

But I do love interpretations. Be thankful that Miranda gets so many, and and is so diverse. Not a lot of characters get that.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 15 août 2012 - 02:43 .


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I want in on this thead, damn it! I've always been had Liara as #1 (with Miranda as a VERY close #2), but I'm slowly being turned.

I like Taboo-XX, o Ventus and Miranda Lawson!

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You'll be sucked in. This is one of the most productive character threads out there.

And we have a LOT of fun in here.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

You'll be sucked in. This is one of the most productive character threads out there.

And we have a LOT of fun in here.


Can already tell. My personality fits this thread.

I've had..."disagreements" with the people in the Liara thread. More FemShep focused, and I don't like FemShep. DO NOT JIVE

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hot_heart wrote...
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your interpretation, man.


The Dude abides Posted Image


On the subject of Miranda's morality and the type of actions she tends to recommend, I always found it refreshing that her recommendations tend to fall a bit on the far side of what I/my Shepard would instinctively want to do.

I think it's one reason she is fun to have around.

Sometimes she recommends something that makes sense pragmatically, and I get to say: Hahahaha yes, that makes sense, but you forget, this is a game, and I am playing the hero, so everything I do will work hahahaha.

And she gets to roll her eyes.

Other times we'll be in a situation, and she'll say something, and my reaction will be: Ummm, really? Are you sure we need to do that lol?

It's just more entertaining that way.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You'll be sucked in. This is one of the most productive character threads out there.

And we have a LOT of fun in here.


Can already tell. My personality fits this thread.

I've had..."disagreements" with the people in the Liara thread. More FemShep focused, and I don't like FemShep. DO NOT JIVE


We have disagreements here. Not that bad usually.

Some people take things more seriously than others in here and that's okay.

But yeah, most of us are really laid back.

You'll fit in fine here.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You'll be sucked in. This is one of the most productive character threads out there.

And we have a LOT of fun in here.


Can already tell. My personality fits this thread.

I've had..."disagreements" with the people in the Liara thread. More FemShep focused, and I don't like FemShep. DO NOT JIVE


We have disagreements here. Not that bad usually.

Some people take things more seriously than others in here and that's okay.

But yeah, most of us are really laid back.

You'll fit in fine here.


Hey we all take stuff seriously here, but we're a bit more real. We get into ethical debates more than, "What does Tali's sweat taste like :sick:"

Newcomers are more than welcome.

It let's us beat the Tali thread.

They were actually upset we had nearly as many pages as them, so they just posted random irrelevant crap to pull ahead like 15 pages. 

edit* Just watch out for a certain fan who takes his obsessive love for Miranda further than even the wildest Tali-mancer could ever imagine.

:whistle:You'll know him when you see him. 

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kaymarierose wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder why everyone assumes their playthrough is canon. 


Because they're talking about their Shepard? And for those people, it is canon.

Then they should make it clear that they're talking about *their* Shepard.


It should be obvious that they are talking about *their* Shepard, unless they specifically say they're talking about someone elses. In which case, they are still talking about a "personal shepard" and therefore doesn't align with everyones view of him anyway.

Either way, there is no overall canon and everyone is free to interpret motives, desires, and speech in anyway they please. None of them are wrong, despite the differing opinions among their peers.

I'm really not trying to sound rude, but sometimes I think people forget that nearly everything about Shepard is completely up to the individual.


No.  You are wrong.  The only canon Shepard is ugly Shepard.  The rest are just pretenders

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fiendishchicken wrote...

Hey we all take stuff seriously here, but we're a bit more real.



This is serious, serious business. Though, I must confess, I am partial to the occasional ass shot.

*just don't tell anyone please* Posted Image

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Taboo-XX wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You'll be sucked in. This is one of the most productive character threads out there.

And we have a LOT of fun in here.


Can already tell. My personality fits this thread.

I've had..."disagreements" with the people in the Liara thread. More FemShep focused, and I don't like FemShep. DO NOT JIVE


We have disagreements here. Not that bad usually.

Some people take things more seriously than others in here and that's okay.

But yeah, most of us are really laid back.

You'll fit in fine here.




Disagreements of opinion are fine by me, but this was with the fundamentals of the thread and the people posting in it,  e.g. male Shepard content being scoffed at and brushed to the side by an avalance of FemShep stuff.

Edit: Anyways, this isn't about LIARA. DIS BOUT MIRANDA!

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You'll be sucked in. This is one of the most productive character threads out there.

And we have a LOT of fun in here.


Can already tell. My personality fits this thread.

I've had..."disagreements" with the people in the Liara thread. More FemShep focused, and I don't like FemShep. DO NOT JIVE


If FemShep could romance Miranda, you best believe thats what I would be doing. I'd be Roxanne/Miranda all the way. Unfortunately, its not available to FemShep.

I don't have any problem playing as Sheploo, none at all, Riley (My Shep) and Miranda are great together. But as a female gamer I do feel more connected to my own gender.

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Somebody posted this in one of the groups. Not new, but I can't recall having seen it.


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http://yellowbird9.d...llery/#/d4jjhip

Modifié par flemm, 15 août 2012 - 03:35 .


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Miranda was originally going to be Bisexual, but it was scrapped. No lines exist, unlike the ones for Tali.

I would never claim to know why this happened, but I have some ideas.

Also, Vertigo, that man ape is terrifying.