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[Taboo]

Miranda does not approve of you disliking David Bowie.

[Taboo]

The fact we have an actual employee there though is a good thing. If Mr. Ackland really is a part of that I'm really pleased. Patrick Weekes cares too.

[krukow]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Man, what's with this obssession of including David Bowie in every page we have? Honestly, the creep freaks me out even more than rape face Shep.

About the Thane thread, he's my favorite character along with Miranda, but I can't stand to go near any of his threads, people there are so depressing and angry.

And this whole feud between their fans started a while ago when Tully Ackland joined the #FindMiranda group before joining the #SaveThane and latter criticised their attitude. Also, one of their most prominent fans thought the Miranda fans weren't doing much for our alliance. It's stupid and it's sad to see some of them still resent us and the character.

Did someone say rape face Shep?



I haven't been around the character/romance forum enough to know the fueds going on. I'll gladly take up for Mirianda, though. Not surprised at the route the Thane thread has taken, though. I'm sure the majoirty of it is Thanemancers, and I image they're none too happy.

FYI: Miri fans and Ash fans usually get along.

Most fans get along actually from what I can tell, except for the bitter Thane fans (you romanced someone with a terminal disease.  I'm not saying there's shouldn't have been a cure, but it wasn't a rocks fall everyone dies scenario).  Tali fans creep me out, even though it's not their fault (just the fault of one lonely doll builder).

[Babi_Siha]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I haven't been around the character/romance forum enough to know the fueds going on. I'll gladly take up for Mirianda, though. Not surprised at the route the Thane thread has taken, though. I'm sure the majoirty of it is Thanemancers, and I image they're none too happy.

I get that they're not happy, I wasn't one bit happy as well, but they're taking things too seriously, it's depressing to know that his fans are now on the same level as the Talimancers. That feud seemed to go away, but there will always be some troll, it's best to just ignore those.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The fact we have an actual employee there though is a good thing. If Mr. Ackland really is a part of that I'm really pleased. Patrick Weekes cares too.

Yes, in fact Tully has been very gracious towards our group, he even tweeted a pic of the posters we sent them and wrote that he was going to frame it and hang on the wall. And Weekes seems to approve the idea of ME2 characters DLC, so people here every now and then tweet him to remind him about Miranda, don't think he replied to anyone here though.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 17 août 2012 - 11:41 .

[Taboo]

That Miranda drawing has existed for months. It has nothing to do with Miss Maroney.

How does this work for you? Miranda in business clothes. Perhaps she's showing Shepard her outfit in the morning? I don't know, it's just nice to see her in something else for a change.

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

The fact we have an actual employee there though is a good thing. If Mr. Ackland really is a part of that I'm really pleased. Patrick Weekes cares too.

Yes, in fact Tully has been very gracious towards our group, he even tweeted a pic of the posters we sent them and wrote that he was going to frame it a hang on the wall. And Weekes seems to approve the idea of ME2 characters DLC, so people here every now and then tweet him to remind him about Miranda, don't think he replied to anyone here though.

Weekes wrote the parts of Miranda in ME2 that I really like. I'm quite fond of his writing. He understands characters and how they work and even more so how they are driven. He didn't handle Miranda in ME3, and it shows.

But this news about Mr. Ackland is great as well, especially the frame part. People here spent a lot of money on them. It's nice to know it's going to see some love in the UK Office Branch.

[Stalker]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

The fact we have an actual employee there though is a good thing. If Mr. Ackland really is a part of that I'm really pleased. Patrick Weekes cares too.

Yes, in fact Tully has been very gracious towards our group, he even tweeted a pic of the posters we sent them and wrote that he was going to frame it a hang on the wall. And Weekes seems to approve the idea of ME2 characters DLC, so people here every now and then tweet him to remind him about Miranda, don't think he replied to anyone here though.

Weekes wrote the parts of Miranda in ME2 that I really like. I'm quite fond of his writing. He understands characters and how they work and even more so how they are driven. He didn't handle Miranda in ME3, and it shows.

But this news about Mr. Ackland is great as well, especially the frame part. People here spent a lot of money on them. It's nice to know it's going to see some love in the UK Office Branch.

Weekes is the best writer on the entire Mass Effect writing team, likely my favorite in gaming. As far as I'm concerned, HE should be lead writer. Not Mr. Speculation.

I honestly doubt Walters will ever get a lead writer job at a future project. His name is now a bad mark for every company.

[Babi_Siha]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Weekes is the best writer on the entire Mass Effect writing team, likely my favorite in gaming. As far as I'm concerned, HE should be lead writer. Not Mr. Speculation.

I think Drew Karpyshyn is the best writer in the series, he practically created the whole concept that ME is about, losing Drew really affected the direction the third game took and not in a good way.

His original idea about dark energy beats the crap out of the one about chaos because of synthetics (Walters idea, no doubt).

Edit: BTW, if anyone here is still not familiar with the dark energy idea, this article has some really great insights: www.gametourists.com/2012/06/bait-and-switch-mass-effect-3-extended.html

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 17 août 2012 - 11:51 .

[krukow]

Chris L'Etoile was also really good.  He wrote Thane, Legion, and (of course) Ashely, among others.  Also, he posted this

That's a bunch of out of context quotes from devs during ME1/2's creation.  It's probably been posted before, but I just found it.  So there!

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Weekes is the best writer on the entire Mass Effect writing team, likely my favorite in gaming. As far as I'm concerned, HE should be lead writer. Not Mr. Speculation.

I think Drew Karpyshyn is the best writer in the series, he practically created the whole concept that ME is about, losing Drew really affected the direction the third game took and not in a good way.

His original idea about dark energy beats the crap out of the one about chaos because of synthetics (Walters idea, no doubt).

And it makes a bit more sense. Scientists don't really know much about Dark Energy but I would have believed that that was the reason the Reapers were doing this.

Presenting me with an AI that presents logical fallacies does not make me think, it angers me.

Furthermore, the obvious choice would to be to blow the Reapers away and give the Universe 100 years to fix the problem.

And you know what? I would have believed that they could do that. The PROPER type of speculation.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Weekes is the best writer on the entire Mass Effect writing team, likely my favorite in gaming. As far as I'm concerned, HE should be lead writer. Not Mr. Speculation.

I think Drew Karpyshyn is the best writer in the series, he practically created the whole concept that ME is about, losing Drew really affected the direction the third game took and not in a good way.

His original idea about dark energy beats the crap out of the one about chaos because of synthetics (Walters idea, no doubt).

Edit: BTW, if anyone here is still not familiar with the dark energy idea, this article has some really great insights: www.gametourists.com/2012/06/bait-and-switch-mass-effect-3-extended.html

And it makes a bit more sense. Scientists don't really know much about Dark Energy but I would have believed that that was the reason the Reapers were doing this.

Presenting me with an AI that presents logical fallacies does not make me think, it angers me.

Furthermore, the obvious choice would to be to blow the Reapers away and give the Universe 100 years to fix the problem.

And you know what? I would have believed that they could do that. The PROPER type of speculation.

Absolutely. The endings angered me instead of leaving me satisfied. Also, we play three games and wait for a mind blowing conclusion and all we got was that poor excuse of ending. Man, how much did Hudson troll us about the A, B, C endings?

The whole thing about dark energy is really interesting, but it was Drew's idea. I really believe Mac felt threatened and wanted to create hs own idea of ending so he could take the credit. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but if that's the case I guess joke's on him.

[Taboo]

The Reapers being painted as victims is not a concern of mine. At the end of the day there are far more pressing things than wondering if Synthesis will allow them to be free.

My canon Shepard will not interfere past stopping the Reapers. He'll kill them to accomplish that. That way all life can prosper. Much like plant life coming up from the ashes after a fire or volcanic explosion. The unfortunate causality are Synthetics.

Now looking at the Dark Energy ending, you could either sacrifice humanity to save the galaxy (WTF) or blow the Reapers to hell and find a solution on your own. The latter is thematically fitting.

In these new endings, Destroy is the only ending that does something in a similar fashion. I look at Control and Synthesis as deleted scenes in a film. They may be interesting but they don't REALLY need to be there, But for those so inclined, they can choose them.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The Reapers being painted as victims is not a concern of mine. At the end of the day there are far more pressing things than wondering if Synthesis will allow them to be free.

My canon Shepard will not interfere past stopping the Reapers. He'll kill them to accomplish that. That way all life can prosper. Much like plant life coming up from the ashes after a fire or volcanic explosion. The unfortunate causality are Synthetics.

Now looking at the Dark Energy ending, you could either sacrifice humanity to save the galaxy (WTF) or blow the Reapers to hell and find a solution on your own. The latter is thematically fitting.

In these new endings, Destroy is the only ending that does something in a similar fashion. I look at Control and Synthesis as deleted scenes in a film. They may be interesting but they don't REALLY need to be there, But for those so inclined, they can choose them.

You know, the star child is not the most reliable being, so I'll just add this bit to my headcanon: the whole thing about his order speach was a lie, he didn't want Shepard finding out about their true motivation and the serious threat that the galaxy faces. His reason for that? If Shepard chose to destroy the Reapers, he wanted to make sure that in the end, organics were taught a lesson that everything they do to avance does more damage than helps. Hell, I'll even change Miranda's original plan of her opening a medical lab so that she'll study the dark energy.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 18 août 2012 - 12:18 .

[Taboo]

BringBackNihlus wrote...
The Reapers are being painted as being anit-heros, though; at least to me. In Dark Energy, they're revelaed to be saving the galaxy from the dark energy, and in this convoluted mess we have now called a video game ending, they're trying to save us from being destroyed by our own creations. I don't like it one bit.

Still, it's better than having the Reapers be the bad guys for 2 and 3/4 of the series, only to be turned into a child's play things with five minutes left.

They aren't so much playthings to me as they are a mistake. The Catalyst reminds me a lot of the brooms in Fantasia. He was created for one purpose, and he will do anything to fufill it. In the film, they continue to fill the well with water, even at the expense of life. They do not undersand this concept and will push anything aside to fufill that goal.

The Catalyst does not have a solution to the problem, he has a work around. Much like the brooms he won't quit. He is more than willing to kill his creators to solve the issue. That's cold machine logic. He cares nothing for feelings.

At the end of the day, the entirety of this problem is that people don't take responsibility for their creations. Victor Frankenstein had this problem.

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

You know, the star child is not the most reliable being, so I'll just add this bit to my headcanon: the whole thing about his order speach was a lie, he didn't want Shepard finding out about their true motivation and the serious threat that the galaxy faces. His reason for that? If Shepard chose to destroy the Reapers, he wanted to make sure that in the end, organics were taught a lesson that everything they do to avance does more damage than helps. Hell, I'll even change Miranda's original plan of her opening a medical lab so tha she'll study the dark energy.

He doesn't really lie, but he is, as you state unreliable. He doesn't really present any proof of his findings. He presents an appeal to probability as well.

A is possible/Therfore A is absolute

Had he listed a probability for a Synthetic uprising he would not be fallacious. He simply says it WILL happen. You can't do that.

Also of note is the cycle. He wipes things out in the Bronze Age of their existence, or tries to. He does not account for feedback loops when a hyperbolic growth curve occurs. That is to say he does not account for variables that may come up to hinder growth. He simply reaps and kills everything. He actually PREVENTS himself from gathering data this way.

Lastly, the solutions provided by The Crucible are all better than his, he states this. At what point, dare I ask did he not consider Destroy to be an option. He believed the best solution was to kill both organics and synthetics? Methinks he hasn't run as many tests as he thinks he has.

He doesn't lie, he really believes what he's saying is true. I do not beleive he has any bearing on the matter whatsoever. The only thing that matters is HOW you wish to deal with the Reapers and how long you want the Galaxy to be affected.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

You know, the star child is not the most reliable being, so I'll just add this bit to my headcanon: the whole thing about his order speach was a lie, he didn't want Shepard finding out about their true motivation and the serious threat that the galaxy faces. His reason for that? If Shepard chose to destroy the Reapers, he wanted to make sure that in the end, organics were taught a lesson that everything they do to avance does more damage than helps. Hell, I'll even change Miranda's original plan of her opening a medical lab so tha she'll study the dark energy.

He doesn't really lie, but he is, as you state unreliable. He doesn't really present any proof of his findings. He presents an appeal to probability as well.

A is possible/Therfore A is absolute

Had he listed a probability for a Synthetic uprising he would not be fallacious. He simply says it WILL happen. You can't do that.

Also of note is the cycle. He wipes things out in the Bronze Age of their existence, or tries to. He does not account for feedback loops when a hyperbolic growth curve occurs. That is to say he does not account for variables that may come up to hinder growth. He simply reaps and kills everything. He actually PREVENTS himself from gathering data this way.

Lastly, the solutions provided by The Crucible are all better than his, he states this. At what point, dare I ask did he not consider Destroy to be an option. He believed the best solution was to kill both organics and synthetics? Methinks he hasn't run as many tests as he thinks he has.

He doesn't lie, he really believes what he's saying is true. I do not beleive he has any bearing on the matter whatsoever. The only thing that matters is HOW you wish to deal with the Reapers and how long you want the Galaxy to be affected.

Honestly, I believe that the Catalyst really didn't want destroy because this way the Reapers are gone for good. When it says to Shepard that he was part synthetic and would die, that was a lie, perhaps was his final appeal so that Shepard wouldn't consider that an option.

I don't think he believes anything he says, the whole is one big manipulation attempt. He says he's the solution to chaos and that synthetics will always rebel against organics. How is it that harvesting organics help then, I mean what kind of solution is this? Everytime a cycle creates a synthetic would it not be best for the Reapers to interfere putting an end only to the AIs? And why did Sovereign say the Reapers let organics advance, what does this have to do with order/chaos? They let organics advance so that they can create synthetics to rebel against their creators?

Ps: trying to argument in English is so much harder. I hope my text was clear.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 18 août 2012 - 12:35 .