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[jtav]

Well, obviously Jack and Samara are better, but if you need a death for RP, it's not a bad way to do it. Actually, the first time I played, I thought she was a trap team leader so didn't assign her to anything for fear infighting would get people killed. I still prefer Jacob as FT1 because it gives a little insight into why she and Jacob didn't work.

[o Ventus]

hot_heart wrote...

Oh, yeah, I don't see anything wrong with it as such. It's perfectly reasonable in some regards.

Just that, personally, even without meta-gaming, I saw Samara and Jack as much more powerful biotics and, therefore, more capable choices.

Same here. I had always just assumed to assign specialists to each role when applicable.

[lillitheris]

hot_heart wrote...

Well, thing is, going by the presentation, it's not really obvious that the bubble-maker is at fault, if I recall. It looks more like one of your teammates gets a little overzealous.

“Guys…hey, guys? What if…like, dudes, what if…what if the bubble isn’t to hold them out, man? What if it’s, like, to hold us in?”

“Whoaaa…”

[Taboo]

Someone gets a nosebleed. At least a woman putting up a barrier does.

Googling Miranda Lawson and Suicide Mission gets me variations of the scene in the engine room and other non-applicable nonsense.

Thinking on it now it may be an entirely different medium. I'm thinking Jean Gray in X-Men or Susan Storm.

I haven't done anything but a perfect suicide mission for something like three years.

That's probably my issue.

[CrutchCricket]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Someone gets a nosebleed. At least a woman putting up a barrier does.

Googling Miranda Lawson and Suicide Mission gets me variations of the scene in the engine room and other non-applicable nonsense.

Thinking on it now it may be an entirely different medium. I'm thinking Jean Gray in X-Men or Susan Storm.

I haven't done anything but a perfect suicide mission for something like three years.

That's probably my issue.

You are thinking of Sue Storm. From the FF movies at least. Not sure about the first but in Rise of the Silver Surfer she gets a nosebleed when she has to hold that London Ferris wheel all by herself.

Haven't seen Jean Grey or Miranda get a nosebleed. And I recently rewatched the Xmen films.

[Taboo]

That's what I thought. I knew that some women got a nosebleed but I couldn't remember who. Thanks for clearing that up.

But is a natural biotic at as much risk as one with an implant? I hear that those chips are put in very carefully. I haven't done much research on the topic but I'm aware that they can be a serious issue.

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

That's what I thought. I knew that some women got a nosebleed but I couldn't remember who. Thanks for clearing that up.

But is a natural biotic at as much risk as one with an implant? I hear that those chips are put in very carefully. I haven't done much research on the topic but I'm aware that they can be a serious issue.

Well, all biotics besides the asari are given implants. I would assume that non-asari biotics are put at a higher risk of "equipment failure" (Or something along those lines). IIRC, aren't there also cases of people going insane or dying due to mishandled implants?

[hot_heart]

lillitheris wrote...
“Guys…hey, guys? What if…like, dudes, what if…what if the bubble isn’t to hold them out, man? What if it’s, like, to hold us in?”

“Whoaaa…”

[Taboo]

I know that one of the issues in Deception was Gillian Greyson getting an implant switched in and out rather quickly. That isn't possible according to lore.

Such a thing would have to be attached to the nervous system. Any malfunction could cause terrible issues. The brain is a fabulous organ, but the tiniest bit of trauma can cause issues. Even a small amount of blood leaking into the brain kills tissue. I can't imagine what biotics might to to certain areas.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 19 août 2012 - 06:48 .

[CrutchCricket]

For humans there is no such thing as "natural biotics". And implants refer to the interfaces used to control eezo nodules throughout their bodies, through the use of an amp.

Asari are the only know "natural biotics".

[Taboo]

CrutchCricket wrote...

For humans there is no such thing as "natural biotics". And implants refer to the interfaces used to control eezo nodules throughout their bodies, through the use of an amp.

Asari are the only know "natural biotics".

Miranda is though. She was exposed to it before something...something.

flemm and I were talking about this yesterday.

RETCONS. RETCONS EVERYWHERE.

[jtav]

Miranda is not a natural biotic. And the apparent timeline inconsistency is solvable via a procedure that implants nodules in the nervous system.

[Taboo]

Okay then. I really wish they'd keep track of their damn timeline.

That's still a risky thing to do, especially to a little girl.

[krukow]

Ummm, Miranda's not a natural anything. She was designed. Why couldn't she be designed to be biotic (just like she was designed to be female/brunette/etc).

Or am I missing something, I'm no master of the codex...

[jtav]

The risk is the point: to show Henry's callous disregard for life.

As for why Miranda's biotics couldn't be inborn, biotics weren't linked to eezo until after first contact.

Modifié par jtav, 19 août 2012 - 07:03 .

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

For humans there is no such thing as "natural biotics". And implants refer to the interfaces used to control eezo nodules throughout their bodies, through the use of an amp.

Asari are the only know "natural biotics".

Miranda is though. She was exposed to it before something...something.

flemm and I were talking about this yesterday.

RETCONS. RETCONS EVERYWHERE.

It's not really a retcon. The first "wave" of eezo exposure to humans was in, what, 2152? Henry Lawson could have been tinkering with eezo and it's effects on the human nervous system in an attempt to make a super-person. I think it makes some sense, especially knowing how dangerous eezo can be to humans and the unknown number of "Miranda's" that Henry went through before he settled on THE Miranda. Plus he's supposed to be enormously wealthy and powerful, it's not a stretch to imagine that an egomaniac like him wanted to be credited with finding out how to give humans biotic abilities, only he wasn't able to due to Miranda being an infant and thus not being able to display any biotic spikes.

Modifié par o Ventus, 19 août 2012 - 07:03 .

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...

The risk is the point: to show Henry's callous disregard for life.

Yes, I got that.

As did everyone who talked to her in her loyalty mission.

He disposed of the others. Threw them out.

[lillitheris]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Asari are the only know "natural biotics".

As far as I understand, there’s no other difference except that all asari always have the nodules. The mechanism is the same otherwise.

…

And just in case it comes up again, here’s the lowdown on implants and so on. Codex and canon info, just rephrased to make sense:


1. Internal amplifier is a device embedded directly in the spine, and forms the basis for manipulating the ME fields. Humans must have this to use biotics (these are the L2/L3 things), asari don’t (but probably anyone who doesn’t want to completely ignore their potential
will have one).

2. Plugin socket can be integrated into the internal amplifier, enabling external augmentations to be used.

3. External augmentations (usually called ‘amps’, sigh) are modules that  are  attached via the plugin socket, and either further amplify the  biotic potential, or provide support for specific biotic abilities etc.

So you can either have 1; 1 and 2; or 1, 2, and 3.

Asari do use external augments as well (Liara does in ME).

Modifié par lillitheris, 19 août 2012 - 07:06 .

[Lawrence0294]

Modifié par kratos0294, 19 août 2012 - 07:09 .

[Taboo]

Winter Wonderland Miranda?

Bahahaha.

[hot_heart]

lillitheris wrote...
And just in case it comes up again, here’s the lowdown on implants and so on. Codex and canon info, just rephrased to make sense:

*snip*

Cheers for the info!