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[dtrain24]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Bah, Sheploo's just there for marketing and gamer poop.

Speaking of Gamerpoop, is episode 5 coming out anytime soon? Or is ME3 done?

Edit- Whoops, little late here

Modifié par dtrain24, 28 août 2012 - 04:15 .

[Babi_Siha]

This thread is moving fast. I always make a custom FemShep because the defaults are just so awful, but BroShep I always use Sheploo, I haven't seen one good looking custon male Shepard so far and Sheploo is just too dreamy. Don't like Meer's voice though, wish Shepard had a more manly voice and a better VA.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 28 août 2012 - 04:02 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yeah it's the Opposite for FemShep. The Default Faces in ME1 and ME2 don't look right, and the Default Face in ME3, well....I feel sorry for those who only use the Default Face, because that was a dramatic change.

EVERY Custom FemShep Face fits the Voice Perfectly. It's the other way around.

[Taboo]

Since I got here about two months ago we've made over six hundred pages.

As for Meer I prefer him to Hale.

You either choose between Wood or Cheese in terms of voice acting.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 28 août 2012 - 04:03 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

The are both good. They give the Character a unique feel.

[Taboo]

One reminds me of the deadpan actors in Robert Bresson films.

The other reminds me of people who over act. Hence the cheese.

I prefer a wooden performance to one that's over the top. And believe me it could be FAR worse.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Since I got here about two months ago we've made over six hundred pages. No doubt my loud has had something to do with it.

As for Meer I prefer him to Hale.

You either choose between Wood or Cheese in terms of voice acting.

I don't know, I think Meer's lack of emotion is troubling. I understand some people think ManShepard's apathy suits him better, but not me, if I were to follow someone it would be a person who showed some emotion. Also, if you're playing renegade, Meer is just awful, at least in the first game.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 28 août 2012 - 04:11 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I have to admit, Hale said, "That was for Thane you Son of a B!tch!" with more Emotion.

Back On Topic!


<3:wub:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 28 août 2012 - 04:15 .

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Since I got here about two months ago we've made over six hundred pages. No doubt my loud has had something to do with it.

As for Meer I prefer him to Hale.

You either choose between Wood or Cheese in terms of voice acting.

I don't know, I think Meer lacks emotion. I understand some people think ManShepard's apathy suits him better, but not me, if I were to follow someone it would be a person who showed some emotion. Also, if you're playing renegade, Meer is just awful, at least in the first game.

Very much so. The thing is is that he's a soldier, not an actor. That's the thing though. Real people aren't always emoting. One of my favorite films, The Devil Probably emphasizes this. People in Bresson films talk in a wooden dead pan manner and it's noticable but it works. They sound like real people. However the results are debatable. Some people HATE this method.

Meer not emoting all the time is a good thing for me. It feels more natural.

I prefer that to Hale.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Since I got here about two months ago we've made over six hundred pages. No doubt my loud has had something to do with it.

As for Meer I prefer him to Hale.

You either choose between Wood or Cheese in terms of voice acting.

I don't know, I think Meer lacks emotion. I understand some people think ManShepard's apathy suits him better, but not me, if I were to follow someone it would be a person who showed some emotion. Also, if you're playing renegade, Meer is just awful, at least in the first game.

Very much so. The thing is is that he's a soldier, not an actor. That's the thing though. Real people aren't always emoting. One of my favorite films, The Devil Probably emphasizes this. People in Bresson films talk in a wooden dead pan manner and it's noticable but it works. They sound like real people. However the results are debatable. Some people HATE this method.

Meer not emoting all the time is a good thing for me. It feels more natural.

I prefer that to Hale.

In the military, the LAST thing you want to do is emote. Calm, reserved, and capable. Meer fits this bill perfectly.

If you emote, ESPECIALLY as an Officer, that shows that you aren't in a focused, controlled mindset. The plan is to be mentally fluid and to have as many possable idea's and actions that you plan on taking at the forefront of your mind. Unless you're in battle or training, raising your voice shows that you've lost control, and that means that you have fundamentally failed as an Officer.

[dtrain24]

^
Some music for you guys that I think you'll appreciate/enjoy. 

[fiendishchicken]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Since I got here about two months ago we've made over six hundred pages. No doubt my loud has had something to do with it.

As for Meer I prefer him to Hale.

You either choose between Wood or Cheese in terms of voice acting.

I don't know, I think Meer's lack of emotion is troubling. I understand some people think ManShepard's apathy suits him better, but not me, if I were to follow someone it would be a person who showed some emotion. Also, if you're playing renegade, Meer is just awful, at least in the first game.

You kidding? His apathy in the first game is what makes his renegade remarks so snarky and awesome. The deadpan delivery is perfect

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Very much so. The thing is is that he's a soldier, not an actor. That's the thing though. Real people aren't always emoting. One of my favorite films, The Devil Probably emphasizes this. People in Bresson films talk in a wooden dead pan manner and it's noticable but it works. They sound like real people. However the results are debatable. Some people HATE this method.

Meer not emoting all the time is a good thing for me. It feels more natural.

I get why some people prefer Meer's style, but a lot of times his acting makes it seem like Shepard is just going through the motions, he doesn't seem concerned or afraid and even when he's supposed to be angry he's not really showing any anger.

[Taboo]

I'd post a video of what I mean but I don't know what languages everyone speaks here. It's really noticeable if you speak French.

There are parts of The Devil, Probably that make me think of Mark Meer.

When I know you're acting you're in trouble. It shouldn't be jarring. But sometimes Meer can't do it.

Case in point:

"STEEEEEEVE!"

[fiendishchicken]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Very much so. The thing is is that he's a soldier, not an actor. That's the thing though. Real people aren't always emoting. One of my favorite films, The Devil Probably emphasizes this. People in Bresson films talk in a wooden dead pan manner and it's noticable but it works. They sound like real people. However the results are debatable. Some people HATE this method.

Meer not emoting all the time is a good thing for me. It feels more natural.

I get why some people prefer Meer's style, but a lot of times his acting makes it seem like Shepard is just going through the motions, he doesn't seem concerned or afraid and even when he's supposed to be angry he's not really showing any anger.

Well, the thing is, my Shepard isn't really afraid. He's concerned, but mostly he's pissed off. But he keeps his cool. He's very pragmatic, thus apathetic to a lot of things. He has a slow temper. 

But when it does ignite, it's huge.

Take this example; there's the hot, fiery, passionate anger that someone like Ashley Williams has. Then there's the cool, venomous, precise, and slow burning rage that Miranda has.

Then there's the anger that Shepard has when he's enraged. He has the explosive, all encompassing blast of rage. Even Miranda is unnerved and disturbed by this display of raw fury. 

Ashley's anger is like a fire

Miranda's anger is like a cold freezing storm

Shepard's anger is a thermonuclear explosion. He can also be as pinpoint as a laser when he is really pissed as well.

[Babi_Siha]

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic. But since I mentioned renegade in a previous point, I wonder if it's forced that a 100% paragon Shepard can make Miranda have feelings for him. I play mostly as a paragon, but never to point where I'm an Alliance worshipper and that Cerberus is bad, plus I do enjoy throwing enemies off the window.

About the romances, I think they are poorly executed as I've stated before. I just can't imagine Miranda liking an Alliance lapdog and that's why I think in addition to being a lousy boyfriend in ME3 (but that's being discussed before, not worth arguing over that again), Shepard's attitude in the third game (in which we weren't really given the choice to role play like we wanted) is not worth of Miranda. He pretty much became everything I always hated about Ashley/Kaidan, a blind loyalist.

Edit: posting this again because it had a nice reception:

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 28 août 2012 - 04:37 .

[Taboo]

By the way I'm really, really enjoying playing as a Sentinel. A Jack of All Trades suits me well and I can maintain the aggressive nature I like with the Assault armor while retaining the more reserved nature of the casting class.

Needless to say you converted me Miranda Thread denizens.

[kaymarierose]

Taboo-XX wrote...

By the way I'm really, really enjoying playing as a Sentinel. A Jack of All Trades suits me well and I can maintain the aggressive nature I like with the Assault armor while retaining the more reserved nature of the casting class.

Needless to say you converted me Miranda Thread denizens.

Mwhahaha!! 

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic. But since I mentioned renegade in a previous point, I wonder if it's forced that a 100% paragon Shepard can make Miranda have feelings for him. I play mostly as a paragon, but never to point where I'm an Alliance worshipper and that Cerberus is bad, plus I do enjoy throwing enemies off the window.

You appeal to a different part of her.

The difference is balance. You can still be a Paragon and hate the Alliance. I was more than willing to bad mouth them in ME2. That made ME3 all the more frustrating. There were quite a few "WTF" moments. You can also support Cerberus.

To be honest he really balances out fifty fifty. He's very nice to Miranda in private ( I like the Paragon Romance Path) but on the field my Shepard would shoot you if he felt it was the best solution. He takes more than his fair share of Renegade interrupts.

I don't feel playing as a goody two shoes is very realistic. Especially in the last game.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 28 août 2012 - 04:42 .

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic. But since I mentioned renegade in a previous point, I wonder if it's forced that a 100% paragon Shepard can make Miranda have feelings for him. I play mostly as a paragon, but never to point where I'm an Alliance worshipper and that Cerberus is bad, plus I do enjoy throwing enemies off the window.

You appeal to a different part of her.

The difference is balance. You can still be a Paragon and hate the Alliance. I was more than willing to bad mouth them in ME2. That made ME3 all the more frustrating. There were quite a few "WTF" moments. You can also support Cerberus.

To be honest he really balances out fifty fifty. He's very nice to Miranda in private but on the field my Shepard would shoot you if he felt it was the best solution. He takes more than his fair share of Renegade interrupts.

I don't feel playing as a goody two shoes is very realistic.

It's not, but some people do play it like that, I've even read some bad fics that Shepard was almost a saint, it was annoying as hell. But if you do play always picking the paragon choices in ME2 that's the same as defending the Alliance all the time.

And I agree with you, ME3 is very frustrating in that way. Working with the Alliance would be fine, but I hated that they made Shepard be instantly reinstated without giving him a saying if that's what he wanted.

[Taboo]

Babi_Siha wrote...

It's not, but some people do play it like that, I've even read some bad fics that Shepard was almost a saint, it was annoying as hell. But if you do play always picking the paragon choices in ME2 that's the same as defending the Alliance all the time.

And I agree with you, ME3 is very frustrating in that way. Working with the Alliance would be fine, but I hated that they made Shepard be instantly reinstated without giving him a saying if that's what he wanted.

You're supporting Miranda when you choose the Paragon choices in her Romance. There's no issue there.

But on Horizon? You can bet I'm taking the Renegade options because Ashley and Kaidan are so full of **** it's not even funny.

Paragade would be a more accurate description of who my Shepard is. Supportive of friends but entirely pragmatic if need be. He takes everything into account and weighs everything on it's own basis.

The best way to ensure the Gunship in Garrus' recruitment mission is not fully repaired is to kill Cathka. An entirely Renagade move but it ensures safey for Shepard and others. Practical. The same goes for Mordin's loyalty mission with that talkative Krogan. The fight was going to occur anyway, my Shepard might as well make the first strike. 

My personal favorite is at the beginning of Miranda's loyalty mission.

I preferred most of the Renegade Options in ME3 anyway, at least in terms of TIM and such.

[enayasoul]

Yeah, My Shepard kills the mechanic working on the gunship, throws the guy out the window which even get's Jack to say "damn, shepard." He even kills the girl hiding because she has the nerve to pull a gun on him. Bad move! The biotic god guy... well, it was funny letting him run off to be the god he claims to be then get's thrown at the wall. I've done it both ways. And telling the merc' he better run along before he bleeds out...

Oh and the batarian that is about to die before you meet Mordin.  Let him die or heal him.  Interesting both ways...  Shepard being a colonist and ruthless... well he has no love for them at all.

Shepard always snaps the head of the merc leader on Miranda's LM.

The Krogan that starts blabbing... Shepard hits the canister that blows them up in fire... <_<

The Salarians in the Shadow broker... I knock out the one that pulled a gun on Shepard and let them go free.

Sorry, had to kill those refinery workers to catch that guy on Zaeed's mission. (can't remember name)

Oh yeah, shot Amanda from "Arrival"     I like her whining.  "You ruined everything.  I can't hear the reapers."  Knew something was fishy about her.  Those glowing eyes is just freaky...

Modifié par enayasoul, 28 août 2012 - 05:33 .

[Taboo]

The general consensus is that it's a 75/25 split for Paragade yes?

I'm not completely familiar with BSN nomenclature yet. Mine's certainly not all Paragon.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The general consensus is that it's a 75/25 split for Paragade yes?

I'm not completely familiar with BSN nomenclature yet. Mine's certainly not all Paragon.

Pretty much. give or take about 5 percent either way.

[Babi_Siha]

I say most my Shepards are about 70/30. I'm nice to most crew members, but I always do all those things enayasoul wrote above.