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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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My Shepard will help certain people though. Like the young man on Omega who wants to sign up as a Freelancer. He's Earthborn. He sympathizes with him and prevents him from being foolish.

But my Shepard trolls a lot too. The shop owners are great targets when you want a discount. The same thing goes for people

"If you start limping now you might find a shady spot before you bleed out."

Love it.

I kill the Asari Commando that is hiding as well.

And here's a picture from Miss Rose.

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enayasoul wrote...

Yeah, My Shepard kills the mechanic working on the gunship, throws the guy out the window which even get's Jack to say "damn, shepard." :) He even kills the girl hiding because she has the nerve to pull a gun on him. Bad move! The biotic god guy... well, it was funny letting him run off to be the god he claims to be then get's thrown at the wall. I've done it both ways. And telling the merc' he better run along before he bleeds out... :)

Oh and the batarian that is about to die before you meet Mordin.  Let him die or heal him.  Interesting both ways...  Shepard being a colonist and ruthless... well he has no love for them at all. :devil:

Shepard always snaps the head of the merc leader on Miranda's LM.


Oh, for ME2... I think I took every renegade option there was, except punching al-jilani. And even then, I only did it so I didn't get too many Renegade points. And the guy in the tunnels for Thane's LM. Telling him to run before it blows up is hilarious.

The renegade comment for the souvenir shop is gold.

"Hey everyone! This store discriminates against the poor!"

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Taboo-XX wrote...

My Shepard will help certain people though. Like the young man on Omega who wants to sign up as a Freelancer. He's Earthborn. He sympathizes with him and prevents him from being foolish.

But my Shepard trolls a lot too. The shop owners are great targets when you want a discount. The same thing goes for people

"If you start limping now you might find a shady spot before you bleed out."

Love it.

I kill the Asari Commando that is hiding as well.


"The scare was a nice touch." - Miranda

"Adding insult to injury, literally necessary?" - Mordin

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fiendishchicken wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Yeah, My Shepard kills the mechanic working on the gunship, throws the guy out the window which even get's Jack to say "damn, shepard." :) He even kills the girl hiding because she has the nerve to pull a gun on him. Bad move! The biotic god guy... well, it was funny letting him run off to be the god he claims to be then get's thrown at the wall. I've done it both ways. And telling the merc' he better run along before he bleeds out... :)

Oh and the batarian that is about to die before you meet Mordin.  Let him die or heal him.  Interesting both ways...  Shepard being a colonist and ruthless... well he has no love for them at all. :devil:

Shepard always snaps the head of the merc leader on Miranda's LM.


Oh, for ME2... I think I took every renegade option there was, except punching al-jilani. And even then, I only did it so I didn't get too many Renegade points. And the guy in the tunnels for Thane's LM. Telling him to run before it blows up is hilarious.

The renegade comment for the souvenir shop is gold.

"Hey everyone! This store discriminates against the poor!"


Hahaha yes!  I didn't keep any saves where i punch aljilani. I might have done it for a laugh then reloaded and have Shepard out-smart her. :lol:

Yes, it's fun to play around with the store keepers. I think I got 3 stores(if I recall correctly) wanting my endorsement.

The tunnel guy was funny.  I always let Garrus take the shot though.  I think I did stop him once just for the heck of it.  
Never did let Thane son kill the guy he was after.

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 Thane's LM:

Busboy: Hey! What are you doing here?

(pick the "there's a bomb!" option)

Shepard: What am I doing here? What are you doing here?

Busboy: What?

Shepard: Get out it's gonna blow!

Busboy: (runs away)

Shepard: (laughs) I can't believe that actually worked.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

 Thane's LM:

Busboy: Hey! What are you doing here?

(pick the "there's a bomb!" option)

Shepard: What am I doing here? What are you doing here?

Busboy: What?

Shepard: Get out it's gonna blow!

Busboy: (runs away)

Shepard: (laughs) I can't believe that actually worked.


Shepard: I don't have time for this (punchs the guy in the stomach).

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Babi_Siha wrote...
Anyway, sorry for the off-topic. But since I mentioned renegade in a previous point, I wonder if it's forced that a 100% paragon Shepard can make Miranda have feelings for him. I play mostly as a paragon, but never to point where I'm an Alliance worshipper and that Cerberus is bad, plus I do enjoy throwing enemies off the window.

About the romances, I think they are poorly executed as I've stated before. I just can't imagine Miranda liking an Alliance lapdog and that's why I think in addition to being a lousy boyfriend in ME3 (but that's being discussed before, not worth arguing over that again), Shepard's attitude in the third game (in which we weren't really given the choice to role play like we wanted) is not worth of Miranda. He pretty much became everything I always hated about Ashley/Kaidan, a blind loyalist.


Yes, I feel that a pure Paragon Shepard is not someone Miranda would fall in love with. Most likely, she wouldn't even respect him. The same goes for a pure Renegade. The former is too naive, and the latter too much of an assh*le. Miranda respects people who think for themselves, and that includes not slavishly sticking to an ideology and not being ruled by emotions all the time, but take responses appropriate to the situation.

Also I agree about Shepard in ME3. It's not quite that bad since I can rationalize most of it as Shepard letting his personal leanings take a backseat in order to stop the Reapers, but there are times when he becomes completely uncorked in his out-of-character loyalty. Cyrus Shepard told Liara "these aren't mine anymore" when she presented his dog tags to him and he meant it. Now he goes all "Yes, sir. No, sir. Can't have any fun with a stick up your ass, sir." (Harkin in ME1).  

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Taboo-XX wrote...
The general consensus is that it's a 75/25 split for Paragade yes?

I'm not completely familiar with BSN nomenclature yet. Mine's certainly not all Paragon.

75/25? That's more Paragon than I usually play. As for nomenclature, I'd classify anything with 80/20 or more extreme as Paragon/Renegade, between 21/79 and 40/60 as Paragade/Renegon, and between 41/59 and 59/41 as neutral.

Most of my Shepards are neutral, but Miranda would be ok with anything but the extremes.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
The general consensus is that it's a 75/25 split for Paragade yes?

I'm not completely familiar with BSN nomenclature yet. Mine's certainly not all Paragon.

75/25? That's more Paragon than I usually play. As for nomenclature, I'd classify anything with 80/20 or more extreme as Paragon/Renegade, between 21/79 and 40/60 as Paragade/Renegon, and between 41/59 and 59/41 as neutral.

Most of my Shepards are neutral, but Miranda would be ok with anything but the extremes.


I agree about Miranda. I'd like to think she respects my Shepard for being peaceful and diplomatic when able, but being rough around the edges when able. I always saw my Shepard sorta like a gunslinger, not afraid to kill or stand up for what he believes in, but if blood is shed its not for nothing.

I wen't very renegade on Miranda's LM, always felt that changed Miranda's perception of Ken. He wanted to protect someone he didnt even know because it was important to Miranda.

I'm always a Paragade, and I could see Miranda giving my Shepard crap like "you should have just shot him".

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Anyone else have different Shepard faces for their romances?

Of course. I have eleven different-looking ones. Here are five of them. As you can see, I also have no problem finding names. Apart from these, I have an Arkay Shepard, a Colwyn Shepard, an Andrash Shepard, a Morgan Shepard, a Kyra Shepard and a Rhea Shepard. Two of them were left in ME1 because I didn't like their looks, one more will be left in ME2, but all others will eventually see ME3's ending.

Cyrus Shepard (LI Miranda):
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Amir Shepard (LI Ashley):
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Rani Shepard (no LI until ME3, then Samantha):
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May Shepard (LI Liara):
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Louise Shepard (replayed for LI Garrus. Was Jacob):
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@kaymarierose:
That Shepard looks great. Very realistic.

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You recall my earlier brooding? It...got resolved.

:)
Good to hear!

...the kiss never fails to make me grin.

Yep, me too. It may be my favorite romance-related scene in all three games. What I like about Miranda, what I envision my Shepard to be, most of it is in that scene (counting what comes before the kiss, too). Looking very much foward to it in my current replay of my main Shepard. 

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Ieldra2 wrote...
Yes, I feel that a pure Paragon Shepard is not someone Miranda would fall in love with. Most likely, she wouldn't even respect him. The same goes for a pure Renegade. The former is too naive, and the latter too much of an assh*le. Miranda respects people who think for themselves, and that includes not slavishly sticking to an ideology and not being ruled by emotions all the time, but take responses appropriate to the situation.

Obviously, it's down to your own interpretation, but I think that's being a little simplistic about the whole thing. Regardless of how you roleplay it, Shepard gets results. Miranda can either respect the cold, professional attitude or see that there is another way to do things.

Plus, I wouldn't hinge love on whether you shoot or spare someone, ad instances like that. Because most of your interactions are with the wider world, there can be variation between that and the personal stuff, where it matters.

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We needed more of this in ME3. Miranda working with Shepard as an equal and Miranda being passionate about her work.
Also, here is Miranda being motherly.
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I agree, and nice screenshots, JB! I don't recognise the last one though. :blush:

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It's Miranda admonishing the dumb kid who wanted to join the mercs.

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Ah, I thought it might be. My brain always seems to remember the framing and lighting a bit differently for that. :blink:

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hot_heart wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Yes, I feel that a pure Paragon Shepard is not someone Miranda would fall in love with. Most likely, she wouldn't even respect him. The same goes for a pure Renegade. The former is too naive, and the latter too much of an assh*le. Miranda respects people who think for themselves, and that includes not slavishly sticking to an ideology and not being ruled by emotions all the time, but take responses appropriate to the situation.

Obviously, it's down to your own interpretation, but I think that's being a little simplistic about the whole thing. Regardless of how you roleplay it, Shepard gets results. Miranda can either respect the cold, professional attitude or see that there is another way to do things.

Plus, I wouldn't hinge love on whether you shoot or spare someone, ad instances like that. Because most of your interactions are with the wider world, there can be variation between that and the personal stuff, where it matters.

It's not primarily about results, but about attitude. For instance, a Shepard who insists that "there's always another way" (there's a scene in ME1 where Shepard can say exactly that) even though the universe tells you that sometimes there isn't won't have Miranda's respect, even if he gets his other way most of the time, and I strongly feel that professional respect is a requirement for Miranda's personal regard and love. On the Renegade side, being an assh*le just because won't let any respect Miranda might have turn into something more. 

The respect thing also applies to Renegade options of course. For instance, I think taking TIM at his word at the first meeting in ME2 without questioning is equally naive.

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Do we know how Eezo is used in the human body? Is it implanted? Injected? How does Miranda continue to use it? Has to be somewhere's right? :)

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Ieldra2 wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Yes, I feel that a pure Paragon Shepard is not someone Miranda would fall in love with. Most likely, she wouldn't even respect him. The same goes for a pure Renegade. The former is too naive, and the latter too much of an assh*le. Miranda respects people who think for themselves, and that includes not slavishly sticking to an ideology and not being ruled by emotions all the time, but take responses appropriate to the situation.

Obviously, it's down to your own interpretation, but I think that's being a little simplistic about the whole thing. Regardless of how you roleplay it, Shepard gets results. Miranda can either respect the cold, professional attitude or see that there is another way to do things.

Plus, I wouldn't hinge love on whether you shoot or spare someone, ad instances like that. Because most of your interactions are with the wider world, there can be variation between that and the personal stuff, where it matters.

It's not primarily about results, but about attitude. For instance, a Shepard who insists that "there's always another way" (there's a scene in ME1 where Shepard can say exactly that) even though the universe tells you that sometimes there isn't won't have Miranda's respect, even if he gets his other way most of the time, and I strongly feel that professional respect is a requirement for Miranda's personal regard and love. On the Renegade side, being an assh*le just because won't let any respect Miranda might have turn into something more. 

The respect thing also applies to Renegade options of course. For instance, I think taking TIM at his word at the first meeting in ME2 without questioning is equally naive.


Honestly I think you're looking for something that isn't there. Miranda is pragmatic. It's shown that she does respect Shepard for his different viewpoint on matters, in fact that's one of the reasons she finds him so intriguing.
And Miranda is the same way. When she's wrong she's willing to admit it and Shepard still respects her for it.

I don't know where you get all this cold-hearted stuff from. She's clearly not one.

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Eezo nodules embedded into tissue that can naturally produce mass effect fields when energized by electrical impulses such as the ones from the nervous system. These nodules can be the result of in-utero exposure to raw forms of Element Zero or they can be directly implanted into the subject's nervous system through a dangerous procedure.
Afterwards, these nodules are capable of naturally producing Dark Energy which enables the biotics to use telekinetic abilities.

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MisterJB wrote...

Eezo nodules embedded into tissue that can naturally produce mass effect fields when energized by electrical impulses such as the ones from the nervous system. These nodules can be the result of in-utero exposure to raw forms of Element Zero or they can be directly implanted into the subject's nervous system through a dangerous procedure.
Afterwards, these nodules are capable of naturally producing Dark Energy which enables the biotics to use telekinetic abilities.


So human biotics have no need for the eezo substances?  no refills or dust because it never runs out inside them? :unsure:

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The same thing apllies to any biotic from any species. They don't need "refills" or Red Sand, their bodies just naturally produces it.
Using biotics is still exhausting and they need a much higher daily caloric intake than non-biotics.

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MisterJB wrote...

The same thing apllies to any biotic from any species. They don't need "refills" or Red Sand, their bodies just naturally produces it.
Using biotics is still exhausting and they need a much higher daily caloric intake than non-biotics.


Well, thank you for explaining this.  I understand, now. ^_^  I'm glad I asked.

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fiendishchicken wrote...
Honestly I think you're looking for something that isn't there. Miranda is pragmatic. It's shown that she does respect Shepard for his different viewpoint on matters, in fact that's one of the reasons she finds him so intriguing.
And Miranda is the same way. When she's wrong she's willing to admit it and Shepard still respects her for it.

I don't know where you get all this cold-hearted stuff from. She's clearly not one.


Underlined: Has nothing to do with romantic interest (though it may impact how it's expressed).

I agree with Ieldra. Pure paragon is too much of an idealist, bordering on holier-than-though (and it would certainly be that if Shepard ever judged others by his standards directly) while pure renegade being an huge ****** is self explanatory.

Neither of these situations would convince Miranda to respond positively to "We'll bang, ok?" Doesn't mean she wouldn't trust him or respect him professionally. But she would not see him as a match romantically.

Miranda mirrors my Shepard quite well in ME2 with these two acts: gunning down Wilson without hesitation and Jacob's LM (forwarding the data). The latter shows great personal loyalty and yes, even caring towards a squadmate and a friend while the latter shows ruthlessness and zero tolerance for betrayal.

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just wanna share that my pin up tee and action figure finally arrived! Oh the fangirl love!

Shirt is awesome. So damn awesome. Damn you, Bioware, why couldn't you do those in women's size too? bah!