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BringBackNihlus wrote...

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Shepard knows where the Levis are, all he needs to do is to drop an asteroid with nuclear heads on the planet and goodbyee levis.


I don't imagine they're just going to sit there on that planet and wait for Shepard to bomb them back to the Stone Age. They led Shepard on an all-time wild goose chase, I'm sure they could continue to do it.


They don't have eezo on the planet, they can't leave it. As long as we don't descend to the planet we are ok. They are easy targets for orbital drops.

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Skullheart wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Shepard knows where the Levis are, all he needs to do is to drop an asteroid with nuclear heads on the planet and goodbyee levis.


I don't imagine they're just going to sit there on that planet and wait for Shepard to bomb them back to the Stone Age. They led Shepard on an all-time wild goose chase, I'm sure they could continue to do it.


They don't have eezo on the planet, they can't leave it. As long as we don't descend to the planet we are ok. They are easy targets for orbital drops.


You're going to need something big to do that though.

BIG.

At least it provides interesting head canon ideas.

I agree that they need to be dealt with.

But how?

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The worst part is what it does to the endings. Pretty much BioWare making Synthesis the "right" choice.

Not just yet. The job's only half done. Control is actually the best ending at the moment from this point of view because Commander can mobilze the full power of the Reapers to hunt down and eradicate Levianthans. But don't worry. I'm sure future DLC will definitively sabotage Control... or at least try its damndest to.


Did you miss the part where the levi took down the reaper, effortlessly?  I'm pretty sure Control is not as safe as you think it might be.  Did you play it yet?

If you mean in your cannon, your sheps going to take some reapers to kill them off? Again how?  They just flopped the reaper out of the sky?

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All that Leviathan had to do was think really hard and he took care of that Reaper in a matter of seconds. Maybe I'm forgetting, but I don't believe the Leviathan you spoke to (with the two you see flanking him afterwards) told you if there were more Leviathans out there. There may be more and and no one knows how many it could be.

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Look at all the ways we could all possibly die in the future!

It's interesting. There are many ways to deal with the Leviathans. Nukes wouldn't do it.

We need to go deeper.

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Good lord people. There are 3 levithans. They don't have magic shields.

We can nuke them from space. Or nuke asteroids to hit that planet. Or blow up a local relay. SO. MANY. OPTIONS.

I would literally be comfortable putting Jacob in charge of this operation.

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"Peak oil: Fossil fuels attain a level of scarcity before an economically viable replacement is devised, leading firstly to economic strain, followed by the collapse of modern agriculture, then to mass starvation."

Sounds like a real super happy fun time.

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I'm pretty sure there is more than 3 that we saw. :) Like taboo said. Shepard, Miranda and Orianna looking at the data on the levi's... and the whole conspiracy behind them. :)

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krukow wrote...

Good lord people. There are 3 levithans. They don't have magic shields.

We can nuke them from space. Or nuke asteroids to hit that planet. Or blow up a local relay. SO. MANY. OPTIONS.

I would literally be comfortable putting Jacob in charge of this operation.


We don't even know how they reproduce.

They could have been making more of themselves in secret for the past billion or so years.

They haven't.

All I need to do now is figure out how to deal with the planet.

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enayasoul wrote...

I'm pretty sure there is more than 3 that we saw. :) Like taboo said. Shepard, Miranda and Orianna looking at the data on the levi's... and the whole conspiracy behind them. :)


I know have a head canon.

This. Is. Fabulous.

Who else but Shepard could deal with this ****?

And Miranda can keep him in line and yell at him.

krukow is going to be so jealous of me...

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krukow wrote...

Good lord people. There are 3 levithans. They don't have magic shields.

We can nuke them from space. Or nuke asteroids to hit that planet. Or blow up a local relay. SO. MANY. OPTIONS.

I would literally be comfortable putting Jacob in charge of this operation.


Remember the last time we blew up someone's local relay?

...You're right.

Jacob, you're on. It's a heavy risk, but just focus on the prize, okay?

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krukow wrote...

Good lord people. There are 3 levithans. They don't have magic shields.

We can nuke them from space. Or nuke asteroids to hit that planet. Or blow up a local relay. SO. MANY. OPTIONS.

I would literally be comfortable putting Jacob in charge of this operation.


The Mass Relay is in another system entirely.  That won't work.  I'm still not sure we should be the aggressors going after them BUT if they do pose a threat... should at least try a peaceful solution first. :?

Jacob, really?  He'll have his hands full in baby poop! :lol:

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Look at all the ways we could all possibly die in the future!

It's interesting. There are many ways to deal with the Leviathans. Nukes wouldn't do it.

We need to go deeper.


This is my first choice.

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followed by several asteroids with nuclear head inside them. Gravity will do most of the job after all.

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I'm in a good mood now. It's clear now.

So there krukow.

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Did you miss the part where the levi took down the reaper, effortlessly?  I'm pretty sure Control is not as safe as you think it might be.  Did you play it yet?

If you mean in your cannon, your sheps going to take some reapers to kill them off? Again how?  They just flopped the reaper out of the sky?

Think again very carefully about what you saw. Three of the monsters rising up while a Reaper bore down on the shuttle. Some magic balls glowing. The Reaper suddenly staggering, flipping and fallling in the water.

Did that seem like 100% certain death in mid-air? Can you guarantee that's what happened?

No. You can't. Equally plausible is the intepretation that Leviathan merely stunned the Reaper long enough for it to fall under the waves- where the three of them could tear it limb from limb.

3 on one. Surprise attack. Absolutely zero indication of what it cost them. You can hardly claim it was "effortless".

Further proof: If Leviathan could just curbstomp Reapers, why has it been hiding all this time? Why did its race lose in the first place? Why did it not strike back after the first or second cycle where there were only two or three Reapers and no other minions?

Conclusion: Leviathan may take down Reapers by getting the jump on them. It might even be able to win 1v1 in open combat. But it cannot stand against the combined might of the Reapers, nor can it touch the holokid.

And the new control entity is even stronger. For now.

Ironic. This may be the first time "artistic integrity" is actually integral. Even the Reapers' former masters are getting ****blocked by the "no conventional victory" clause.

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enayasoul wrote...

Jacob, really?  He'll have his hands full in baby poop! :lol:


The priiiiiiiize!

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Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't even know how they reproduce.

They could have been making more of themselves in secret for the past billion or so years.

They haven't.

All I need to do now is figure out how to deal with the planet.

You don't know that. Just like you don't know that they'll stay on that planet once the Reapers go boom.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't even know how they reproduce.

They could have been making more of themselves in secret for the past billion or so years.

They haven't.

All I need to do now is figure out how to deal with the planet.

You don't know that. Just like you don't know that they'll stay on that planet once the Reapers go boom.


There isn't any eezo on the planet chuckles. They aren't going anywhere.

PLAY. THE. DLC.

This is what I was talking about.

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krukow wrote...

Good lord people. There are 3 levithans. They don't have magic shields.

We can nuke them from space. Or nuke asteroids to hit that planet. Or blow up a local relay. SO. MANY. OPTIONS.

I would literally be comfortable putting Jacob in charge of this operation.


As I said, they're not just going to sit there and let you bombard them. That, and we have no idea what the Leviathan's numbers are. I don't believe Shepard asks or Leviathan talks about it. Maybe those are the only three left, maybe they aren't. BioWare likes to be vague about everything now, apparently. I'm going to speculate that there are more than three in my imagination.

I wouldn't be comfortable with Jacob being in charge of getting me a bag of chips and a Pepsi from a mini-mart. Child please.

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Taboo-XX wrote...
There isn't any eezo on the planet chuckles. They aren't going anywhere.

Is it mentioned when the last time they refueled was? Can you guarantee they're running on empty? Can you even make such a ridiculous claim?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I'm in a good mood now. It's clear now.

So there krukow.


So there?  When was I trying to put you in a bad mood?

You're my hero yo, you pointed out that stargazer makes it clear the Levs don't overrun society.

Which they clearly don't, Shepley won't let them.  (if you don't have shepley, your results may vary...)

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Well **** guys. I'm all for being in a dour mood but I just can't be.

Do you approve Nihlus?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't even know how they reproduce.

They could have been making more of themselves in secret for the past billion or so years.

They haven't.

All I need to do now is figure out how to deal with the planet.

You don't know that. Just like you don't know that they'll stay on that planet once the Reapers go boom.


There isn't any eezo on the planet chuckles. They aren't going anywhere.

PLAY. THE. DLC.

This is what I was talking about.


They'll compel their thralls to bring element zero to the planet.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...
They'll compel their thralls to bring element zero to the planet.

If they haven't already.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't even know how they reproduce.

They could have been making more of themselves in secret for the past billion or so years.

They haven't.

All I need to do now is figure out how to deal with the planet.

You don't know that. Just like you don't know that they'll stay on that planet once the Reapers go boom.


There isn't any eezo on the planet chuckles. They aren't going anywhere.

PLAY. THE. DLC.

This is what I was talking about.


They'll compel their thralls to bring element zero to the planet.



What thralls?  Everyone worships Shepley.

Do you really think "indoctrination" can override people magazing and us weekly?  

Child please.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

They'll compel their thralls to bring element zero to the planet.



They haven't done so in millions of years. Shepard knows where they are.

First assignment after recovery? Blowing the planet to kingdom come.