lillitheris wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
She can be accomplished both at work and at home. I see it as more offensive that people think she can't have both.
The level at which she is playing professionally, you cannot succeed without a 24/7 effort.
krukow wrote...
Because I work with police officers who are available most of the time, due to the needs of various investigations, and they're perfectly fine parents.
ER doctors are in a similar position. Esp surgeons.
I think you just don't want her to have kids/family. And that's fine, but stop pretending it limits her ability. The freaking president of the US has kids yo.
Taboo-XX wrote...
lillitheris wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
She can be accomplished both at work and at home. I see it as more offensive that people think she can't have both.
The level at which she is playing professionally, you cannot succeed without a 24/7 effort.
I said accomplished at both.
I never said she would be working at the same capacity. That's nonsense.
jtav wrote...
A balance is ideal. Maybe she can transition away from espionage into science and administration. She can have her family and do meaningful work appropriate for her talents.
That's why I picked Control. It's both/and.
lillitheris wrote...
I’m all for Miranda having kids, but she cannot—nobody can, male, female, otherwise—play in the big leagues and be a good parent at the same time.
Never apologise for The Beatles. Never. Especially the end of that medley.Taboo-XX wrote...
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
^ lolololol
I apologize in advance for that. I couldn't help myself.
hot_heart wrote...
Never apologise for The Beatles. Never. Especially the end of that medley.Taboo-XX wrote...
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
^ lolololol
I apologize in advance for that. I couldn't help myself.
(Her Majesty does not exist. Nope.)
Modifié par Taboo-XX, 30 août 2012 - 07:49 .
... reminds me of a Chuck seasonTaboo-XX wrote...
lillitheris wrote...
I’m all for Miranda having kids, but she cannot—nobody can, male, female, otherwise—play in the big leagues and be a good parent at the same time.
That's why I was insistent on having them wait.
Shepard and Miranda would not settle down. They would go crazy. There's far more important things going on.
Modifié par Mr Massakka, 30 août 2012 - 07:52 .
flemm wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
You greatly underestimate the laziness of artists. If there is no need, you don't put it in. Can we get by without this? They we don't use it. It's far easier to use filler material. Why? Because it furthers the other content we're trying to push.
I don't think any of us underestimate that, at least not generally speaking.
One of the most common remarks has basically been that Miranda's content is a lazy rehash
Having said that, one can certainly respond by saying, "well, I would have preferred that this had not been such a lazy rehash with a lot of filler material."
Ieldra2 wrote...
QFT. I *really* hate that part.krukow wrote...
The subscribing to barefoot housewives weekly and canceling the science journal was the worst character development ever.
Okay, second worst (ME3 Jacob).
The dossier doesn't exactly prove anything, but it is thematically significant. That's why we complain about it. Or don't you recognize the thematic significance in the combination of subscribing to a fashion magazine and canceling a subscription to a scientific journal at the same time? The first part alone would have been OK, but the combination is damning.CrutchCricket wrote...
You know, it's less that I hate the dossier and more that I hate all the negative reading into it being done around here. I'm starting to think it may be worse than even that Collector Base line...Ieldra2 wrote...
It did. Read the damned dossier. It was almost as if they wanted to tell us what to expect from Miranda in ME3. And everyone hated the dossier for various reasons, so it's not as if Bioware didn't know what we didn't want.
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wright1978 wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
QFT. I *really* hate that part.krukow wrote...
The subscribing to barefoot housewives weekly and canceling the science journal was the worst character development ever.
Okay, second worst (ME3 Jacob).
Very true
"Seeing it first-hand, using anything (!) from this base seems like a betrayal". Miranda argues from sentimentality, which I maintain is out of character for her in a situation where the stakes are as high as here.krukow wrote...
...What collector base line?
I really don't know which one you all refer too...
Modifié par Ieldra2, 30 août 2012 - 08:14 .
Mr Massakka wrote...
... reminds me of a Chuck seasonTaboo-XX wrote...
lillitheris wrote...
I’m all for Miranda having kids, but she cannot—nobody can, male, female, otherwise—play in the big leagues and be a good parent at the same time.
That's why I was insistent on having them wait.
Shepard and Miranda would not settle down. They would go crazy. There's far more important things going on.
And I agree: After saving the galaxy for several years now you can't just immediately sit down and do nothing.
Kids are something that I can see 5-10 years after the Reaper war.
Ieldra2 wrote...
The dossier doesn't exactly prove anything, but it is thematically significant. That's why we complain about it. Or don't you recognize the thematic significance in the combination of subscribing to a fashion magazine and canceling a subscription to a scientific journal at the same time? The first part alone would have been OK, but the combination is damning.
Ieldra2 wrote...
"Seeing it first-hand, using anything (!) from this base seems like a betrayal". Miranda argues from sentimentality, which I maintain is out of character for her in a situation where the stakes are as high as here.krukow wrote...
...What collector base line?
I really don't know which one you all refer too...
Good that you can avoid that line. I pretend it doesn't exist.
That's why the first part alone would be OK. She's interested in romantic fashion. I like it, really. What I find unacceptable is the combination with cancelling the scientific journal because that implies she must lose something else - her scientific ambition - to get that human connection. I really don't understand that you don't appear to get this.Taboo-XX wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
The dossier doesn't exactly prove anything, but it is thematically significant. That's why we complain about it. Or don't you recognize the thematic significance in the combination of subscribing to a fashion magazine and canceling a subscription to a scientific journal at the same time? The first part alone would have been OK, but the combination is damning.
And yet as you state it doesn't prove anything. She's still more than professional.
Why is this such a big issue?
Human connection is not a bad thing. It's a good thing.
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I...Ieldra2 wrote...
"Seeing it first-hand, using anything (!) from this base seems like a betrayal". Miranda argues from sentimentality, which I maintain is out of character for her in a situation where the stakes are as high as here.krukow wrote...
...What collector base line?
I really don't know which one you all refer too...
krukow wrote...
I...Ieldra2 wrote...
"Seeing it first-hand, using anything (!) from this base seems like a betrayal". Miranda argues from sentimentality, which I maintain is out of character for her in a situation where the stakes are as high as here.krukow wrote...
...What collector base line?
I really don't know which one you all refer too...
WUT? You people are insane. People were brutally killed there and she's supposed to be all "yup, we could totally use this!"
The Mirithread, where morality is a human construct and Miranda apparently needed to act more like Dr. Mengele!
Slightly hyperbolic, but still. If she hadn't said that line, I wouldn't like her. There's a line people, jeeze...
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