Aller au contenu

Photo

"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


82210 réponses à ce sujet

#70926
MASSEFFECTfanforlife101

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101
  • Members
  • 8 311 messages

Ghost1017 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Then she is a coward.


How is that being a coward. It simply means that Miri has a greater defence than Ashley. And who was around for combat training longer? Hmm?


Ash was a soldier way longer while Miri was romancing Jacob and being with TIM.


Isn't Miri older than Ashley?


ME1 Ash.

ME2 Miri.


I didn't mean it like that. Miri was born in 2150. What year was Ashley born? 

Miri was able to escape from her father, and "Shots Were Fired."  Miri could have had Biotic Training and Weapons Training as a Child.

#70927
Ghost

Ghost
  • Members
  • 3 512 messages

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Then she is a coward.


How is that being a coward. It simply means that Miri has a greater defence than Ashley. And who was around for combat training longer? Hmm?


Ash was a soldier way longer while Miri was romancing Jacob and being with TIM.


Isn't Miri older than Ashley?


ME1 Ash.

ME2 Miri.


I didn't mean it like that. Miri was born in 2150. What year was Ashley born? 

Miri was able to escape from her father, and "Shots Were Fired."  Miri could have had Biotic Training and Weapons Training as a Child.


Age doesn't matter.

#70928
katcrave

katcrave
  • Members
  • 292 messages
Hey I'm a Miri fan. New to these threads :) But thought I'd come in to show some support!
And just so I don't feel left out: REPORTED!!!! REPORT ALL THE THINGS!

#70929
MASSEFFECTfanforlife101

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101
  • Members
  • 8 311 messages

Ghost1017 wrote...


Age doesn't matter.


Experience does. Tactics (Both Biotic, Tech, and Weaponry) outweighs a regular Soldier who knows how to fire a weapon.

#70930
Ghost

Ghost
  • Members
  • 3 512 messages

katcrave wrote...

Hey I'm a Miri fan. New to these threads :) But thought I'd come in to show some support!
And just so I don't feel left out: REPORTED!!!! REPORT ALL THE THINGS!


Welcome to the thread! Just so you know there are a few trolls in here who call me and others trolls just ignore them.

:D

#70931
dtrain24

dtrain24
  • Members
  • 1 281 messages

krukow wrote...

Ashley is an alliance marine who becomes a spectre.  If you choose to, you can have her kill a Krogan Warlord.  I know you don't like her, but these things both happen on-screen and are difinitive canon (assuming she lives to those points, I know you virmire her).

Miranda has no combat training, and her biotics are actually pretty weak (hence you can't use her for the bubble).  She claims she can crush a mech, but you never see her do this (in fact, you run into mechs often, and she NEVER does this), and she doesn't even possess that strong of biotic powers.

Ashely would work her like a speed-bag one-on-one.  It would get ugly.

And that's fine, Miranda is never presented as the badass fighter, she's an organizer, a leader.  She'll get things done in a group setting.  In that setting, she is easily Ash's superior.


Well, she can only kill Wrex because he has his back turned to her and is in the middle of a confrontation with Shepard.

Her biotics aren't weak. Only Jack, Samara, and Morinth can keep the bubble up.
Jacob and Thane fail as well. Miranda was able to keep up the bubble right until the end. Jack and the Asari were struggling by the end too, so they aren't a WHOLE lot stronger than Miranda.

(I actually like debates Posted Image)

#70932
krukow

krukow
  • Members
  • 3 943 messages

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...


Age doesn't matter.


Experience does. Tactics (Both Biotic, Tech, and Weaponry) outweighs a regular Soldier who knows how to fire a weapon.

Ashley is a SPECTRE.

SPECTRE.

Even if you want to claim Udina was using her, the other council members approved it too!

She's not a regular soldier. 

One-on-one, she's Miranda's superior.

#70933
Ghost

Ghost
  • Members
  • 3 512 messages

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...


Age doesn't matter.


Experience does. Tactics (Both Biotic, Tech, and Weaponry) outweighs a regular Soldier who knows how to fire a weapon.


Ash has more experience than Miri but Miri has her own benefits. Miri is not a very skilled biotic she even admits this.

#70934
dtrain24

dtrain24
  • Members
  • 1 281 messages

katcrave wrote...

Hey I'm a Miri fan. New to these threads :) But thought I'd come in to show some support!
And just so I don't feel left out: REPORTED!!!! REPORT ALL THE THINGS!


Welcome! Posted Image
You're telling me. Haha.
It's starting to get a little old.

What other characters do you like and/or romance?

Modifié par dtrain24, 30 août 2012 - 11:29 .


#70935
MASSEFFECTfanforlife101

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101
  • Members
  • 8 311 messages

krukow wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...


Age doesn't matter.


Experience does. Tactics (Both Biotic, Tech, and Weaponry) outweighs a regular Soldier who knows how to fire a weapon.

Ashley is a SPECTRE.

SPECTRE.

Even if you want to claim Udina was using her, the other council members approved it too!

She's not a regular soldier. 

One-on-one, she's Miranda's superior.


She died on Virmire, so this is of know use to me, to be honest.

#70936
katcrave

katcrave
  • Members
  • 292 messages
Lolz :D Fair enough! I'm kinda hard to offend so most the time I find trolling funny anyways.

Also, does anyone mind if I steal on of those #MoreMiranda sigs?

#70937
krukow

krukow
  • Members
  • 3 943 messages

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...


She died on Virmire, so this is of know use to me, to be honest.

Miranda cheated on  your shep, just FYIPosted Image

Modifié par krukow, 30 août 2012 - 11:30 .


#70938
krukow

krukow
  • Members
  • 3 943 messages

katcrave wrote...

Lolz :D Fair enough! I'm kinda hard to offend so most the time I find trolling funny anyways.

Also, does anyone mind if I steal on of those #MoreMiranda sigs?

It's actually expected of you if you hang out in here.

I don't have one because I'm the token ash fan/troll.

#70939
dtrain24

dtrain24
  • Members
  • 1 281 messages

katcrave wrote...

Lolz :D Fair enough! I'm kinda hard to offend so most the time I find trolling funny anyways.

Also, does anyone mind if I steal on of those #MoreMiranda sigs?


Go for it! The more the merrier!

#70940
Ghost

Ghost
  • Members
  • 3 512 messages

katcrave wrote...

Lolz :D Fair enough! I'm kinda hard to offend so most the time I find trolling funny anyways.

Also, does anyone mind if I steal on of those #MoreMiranda sigs?


Go right ahead! we could always use more support!

#70941
Ghost

Ghost
  • Members
  • 3 512 messages

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

krukow wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...


Age doesn't matter.


Experience does. Tactics (Both Biotic, Tech, and Weaponry) outweighs a regular Soldier who knows how to fire a weapon.

Ashley is a SPECTRE.

SPECTRE.

Even if you want to claim Udina was using her, the other council members approved it too!

She's not a regular soldier. 

One-on-one, she's Miranda's superior.


She died on Virmire, so this is of know use to me, to be honest.


Miranda died at the collector base after I romanced her! :wub:

#70942
katcrave

katcrave
  • Members
  • 292 messages

dtrain24 wrote...

katcrave wrote...

Hey I'm a Miri fan. New to these threads :) But thought I'd come in to show some support!
And just so I don't feel left out: REPORTED!!!! REPORT ALL THE THINGS!


Welcome! Posted Image
You're telling me. Haha.
It's starting to get a little old.

What other characters do you like and/or romance?


Miri's my main LI but Ash is right behind her :) (OH NOES! I like them both!!!) Legion. Wrex. Grunt. Thane. They rock. I miss them in ME3.

#70943
fiendishchicken

fiendishchicken
  • Members
  • 3 389 messages

krukow wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

krukow wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...But she has a Biotic field.


Miri's biotic field can't even be used to keep the keepers out.  She got Garrus killed once!

Ash is the better fighter.  One-on-one, she wins.

If you give them identical squads, and have them both devise tactics, Miri's squad wins.

Does that make sense?


That's not true at all. 

If Ashley is anything like a modern soldier in regards to training, she'd be good. But she's not going to know any advanced combatives or have any capabilities. She has no specific training. She'd make a good NCO though.

The only thing she's better than Miranda at is rucking and weapons training. Miranda would win in a CQC fight.
Miranda is biotic, is trained as an operative. Ashley would get some good hits in, but she just doesn't have the operative skills that Miranda does. Miranda wins both in a singular fight and in squad tactics.




Ashley is an alliance marine who becomes a spectre.  If you choose to, you can have her kill a Krogan Warlord.  I know you don't like her, but these things both happen on-screen and are difinitive canon (assuming she lives to those points, I know you virmire her).

Miranda has no combat training, and her biotics are actually pretty weak (hence you can't use her for the bubble).  She claims she can crush a mech, but you never see her do this, and she doesn't even possess that strong of biotic powers.

Ashely would work her like a speed-bag one-on-one.  It would get ugly.

And that's fine, Miranda is never presented as the badass fighter, she's an organizer, a leader.  She'll get things done in a group setting.  In that setting, she is easily Ash's superior.


Her training is about the same as mine as a soldier and an Officer. While I am exceptional, I would not call myself a standout soldier. She is neither. She becomes a Spectre because Udina needs someone he can easily manipulate, plus it is a political boost and a morale boost. She really has done nothing to warrant that kind of promotion. I have a list of special skills and achievements I've made in my career: Combat Action Badge, Basic Parachutist Badge, Marksman Qualification Badge, and the German Armed Forces Badge for Military Proficiency (in Bronze). Ashley likely has her timelines equivalent and they do mark her as a standout soldier, but she simply can't compete with Miranda.

Miranda most certainly has training. She mentions this herself. She is a Cerberus field officer after all. She most likely knows more advanced forms of fighting and combatives. And her biotics are indeed very powerful for a human. She's not the most powerful, but she could hold her own well enough. She doesn't have the raw power like Jack, or Samara's advanced Justicar training though true. In the former's case, she was experimented on to make her that much more powerful, and Samara is nearly a 1000 years old and has had Justicar level biotics for the Asari (Who are all talented biotics naturally) for over 400 years.

Miranda would win in a fight. Ashley would put up a good one, but she just is out of her league there.

#70944
krukow

krukow
  • Members
  • 3 943 messages

katcrave wrote...

Miri's my main LI but Ash is right behind her :) (OH NOES! I like them both!!!) Legion. Wrex. Grunt. Thane. They rock. I miss them in ME3.

You and I will get along greatPosted Image

Miri and Ash are both awesome.

#70945
MASSEFFECTfanforlife101

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101
  • Members
  • 8 311 messages

krukow wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...


She died on Virmire, so this is of know use to me, to be honest.

Miranda cheated on  your shep, just FYIPosted Image


How can that be true?

1) You are not there to see My Playthrough.

2) I know My Playthrough like the back of My Hand.

3) You are falsely RPing on someone else's Playthrough.

#70946
krukow

krukow
  • Members
  • 3 943 messages

fiendishchicken wrote...
Her training is about the same as mine as a soldier and an Officer. While I am exceptional, I would not call myself a standout soldier. She is neither. She becomes a Spectre because Udina needs someone he can easily manipulate, plus it is a political boost and a morale boost. She really has done nothing to warrant that kind of promotion. I have a list of special skills and achievements I've made in my career: Combat Action Badge, Basic Parachutist Badge, Marksman Qualification Badge, and the German Armed Forces Badge for Military Proficiency (in Bronze). Ashley likely has her timelines equivalent and they do mark her as a standout soldier, but she simply can't compete with Miranda.

Miranda most certainly has training. She mentions this herself. She is a Cerberus field officer after all. She most likely knows more advanced forms of fighting and combatives. And her biotics are indeed very powerful for a human. She's not the most powerful, but she could hold her own well enough. She doesn't have the raw power like Jack, or Samara's advanced Justicar training though true. In the former's case, she was experimented on to make her that much more powerful, and Samara is nearly a 1000 years old and has had Justicar level biotics for the Asari (Who are all talented biotics naturally) for over 400 years.

Miranda would win in a fight. Ashley would put up a good one, but she just is out of her league there.

Ashley is a spectre!  She's part of the most elite special forces in the history of the galaxy!  Miranda was basically an administrator half the time! 

I get that you love your waifu (I clearly do too), but you're delusional if you think she could defeat a spectre with way more training and battle experience than her.  Miranda is a tactician, and a great one, but only a decent combatant at best.

let me put it in terms you can understand:
Ashley=Michael Jordan
Miranda=Phil Jackson

#70947
dtrain24

dtrain24
  • Members
  • 1 281 messages

katcrave wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...

katcrave wrote...

Hey I'm a Miri fan. New to these threads :) But thought I'd come in to show some support!
And just so I don't feel left out: REPORTED!!!! REPORT ALL THE THINGS!


Welcome! Posted Image
You're telling me. Haha.
It's starting to get a little old.

What other characters do you like and/or romance?


Miri's my main LI but Ash is right behind her :) (OH NOES! I like them both!!!) Legion. Wrex. Grunt. Thane. They rock. I miss them in ME3.


Miri is my main LI as well.
Wrex, Garrus, and Grunt are my other favorite characters in addition to Miri.
But I like Legion, Kasumi, Zaeed, Mordin, and Thane as well.

#70948
krukow

krukow
  • Members
  • 3 943 messages

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

krukow wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...


She died on Virmire, so this is of know use to me, to be honest.

Miranda cheated on  your shep, just FYIPosted Image


How can that be true?

1) You are not there to see My Playthrough.

2) I know My Playthrough like the back of My Hand.

3) You are falsely RPing on someone else's Playthrough.

I'm just teasing you because you virmired Ash.

Miranda was clearly loyal, that's how her romanced character is written (loyal).

#70949
Ghost

Ghost
  • Members
  • 3 512 messages
GUYS CHECK OUT MY NEW THREAD IN THE STORY FORUM YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!!

#70950
Lawrence0294

Lawrence0294
  • Members
  • 2 826 messages

katcrave wrote...

Hey I'm a Miri fan. New to these threads :) But thought I'd come in to show some support!
And just so I don't feel left out: REPORTED!!!! REPORT ALL THE THINGS!

Welcome 
If you like Miranda you'll feat right in :wizard:

and thanx for reporting me :P

And ghost, cool brynn avatar....REPORTED