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[LuxDragon]

Her facial expressions are interesting in that sequence then. She looks at Shep tenderly, but when Wilson opens his gob, you see that she has a more severe look when she turns to him. When she looks back on Shep... who know's what she's thinking?

I know what I'm thinking though. "She's purdy..."

Modifié par LuxDragon, 01 août 2011 - 11:23 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Miri was probably happy that she succeeded.

Even though I love the attraction Idea, that is very possible. 

She accomplished something that no one else has ever attempted before.

She brought us back from death.

LuxDragon wrote...I know what I'm thinking though. "She's purdy..."

This, and much more. As if I died and gone to Heaven, the first person I see is a Gorgeous Angel with a Heavenly voice looking down at me. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 01 août 2011 - 11:30 .

[MisterJB]

She probrably got attached to Shepard and was feeling quite proud of her creation for being such a strong figther.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

That too.

[LuxDragon]

Tomato/To-mah-to

Attraction/Attachment

[K_Tabris]

It's hard to tell, especially in the beginning, when Miranda stops thinking about Shepard as 'her project', and starts thinking about Shepard as a human, a person. I love her loyalty mission for so many reasons. Besides seeing Miranda's vulnerable side when it comes to her sister, you also get to see Miranda's respect and gratitude for Shepard grow into a sort of affection.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yeah, I love Miri's Character Development. Wonderful and Romantic.

Come on BW, don't fail us now!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 01 août 2011 - 11:50 .

[KamikazeShepard]

Yeah, Miri really grew on me, the more you talked to her, the more human she felt. At first she was mean, but eventually she started opening up and showing there was a human in there. Loved that aspect and hope they expand on it more in ME3 without changing her core character.

[Arijharn]

NovinhaShepard wrote...

It's hard to tell, especially in the beginning, when Miranda stops thinking about Shepard as 'her project', and starts thinking about Shepard as a human, a person. I love her loyalty mission for so many reasons. Besides seeing Miranda's vulnerable side when it comes to her sister, you also get to see Miranda's respect and gratitude for Shepard grow into a sort of affection.

Presumably at the times where Shephard does something of the following:
a) Suitably heroic
Saves her from certain death, whether it's because he made a lucky save via headshot that was otherwise gunning for Miranda or whatever
c) His innate sense of unassailable confidence. I don't think I've met a single woman who wasn't attracted to a guy who was confident, and if anybody exudes confidence, I think it's safe to say that the first human Spectre has that in spades.
and optional
d) A little bit of a cheeky smartass. Like when Leia tells Han Solo: "I love you!" to which he replies: "I know." He doesn't say: "I love you tooOOoooOOO!", he sorta puts her off balance more than anything else, but he isn't rude, he just likes to poke fun at things... like her.

[Arijharn]

LuxDragon wrote...

^ There is also the part where she smiles down on Shepard when s/he wakes up for the first time. At there very least, there is some indication of attraction.

I don't think so, I think it's more to do with the fact that Shephard's first natural thoughts in the situation would be: "What the *-ck is going on? Where the hell am I? Who are these people? What do they want?" and Miranda, probably understanding this, wants our hero's first sight to be one of at least somewhat reassurance. Answers can come later, but at the moment: her smile was: "Everything's going to be okay." Especially after she chews out Wilson.

[Arijharn]

Wow, sorry for ze post spam!

LuxDragon wrote...
Don't get me wrong, I like Ashley, I just think she lacks the mental requirements to be a Spectre. Are they supposed to be chosen carefully?

Unless she was promoted for basically the sole purpose to bring in Shephard 'quietly,' taking into account the fact that paragon or renegade, Shephard might not actually want to come to Earth to stand trial despite the necessity of what Admiral Hackett alludes to post Arrival. In fact, I think it's actually a pretty safe horse for the powers that be to back in this way, because surely Shephard would be far less likely to shoot a former associate than a miscellaneous Spectre that Shephard has never befriended in the past, and Shephard can say to Liara that he's tired of his 'friends not believing him,' further shining light at the unique position that the VS finds him/herself in.

Speaking of bringing in, I hope we actually get to see that all happen prior to the trial on Earth. I want them to actually arrest my Shephard, not just cutting to it.

Modifié par Arijharn, 02 août 2011 - 03:55 .

[goofyomnivore]

Catching up on a few pages worth of stuff.

Urthemiel Cousland wrote...
I wonder how Miranda and Ashley would react to each other if you romanced them both.

I have a save where I romance both. I don't really start the relationship with Miranda till late in the game after I have had some time to pine Ashley, but I consider Horizon a break up, and the email as kind of a "we still got problems, but stay safe", and I don't think an email would repair that relationship.

I'm not sure how they would interact. I would rather they not interact seriously until Shepard has had time to talk to both, so Shepard's intentions can be made clear; I would want, 1) If Shepard is playing both sides, they come to the conclusion and dump him. 2) Shepard picks one, and everyone agrees that the Reapers are more important, and can't lose focus, but a few verbal jabs or cheapshots(think Liara in LotSB comments if you cheated) linger around from time to time 3) The odd one out wishes the other one happiness and doesn't regret her time with Shepard.

An all out catfight would cheapen both characters and not being something I would want to see. However a few verbal jabs or comments wouldn't be too terrible I don't think. I would rather they be less direct, and more subtle like hidden in other disagreements such as Alliance vs Cerberus banter etc.

Her facial expressions are interesting in that sequence then. She looks at Shep tenderly, but when Wilson opens his gob, you see that she has a more severe look when she turns to him. When she looks back on Shep... who know's what she's thinking

I didn't get the attraction vibe. It felt more like a friendly/reassuring smile to me, possibly to try and calm Shepard down. She was pretty hateful to Wilson, and the logs indicate as much. Although Wilson probably provoked/deserved it.

It's hard to tell, especially in the beginning, when Miranda stops thinking about Shepard as 'her project', and starts thinking about Shepard as a human, a person.

Shepard is her greatest achievement. I don't think she stops thinking of him as an achievement/project until after her loyalty mission. Because their relationship had been almost all mutual business up until that point, and then she becomes interested in Shepard the man/women compared to Shepard the "asset" to humanity.

[whywhywhywhy]

TheMarshal wrote...

LuxDragon wrote...

^ There is also the part where she smiles down on Shepard when s/he wakes up for the first time. At there very least, there is some indication of attraction.

But she puts on hold until Oriana. Mission first and all that.

*snip*

Credit to Ieldra2

That's...  a bit of a stretch to consider that attraction.  Shepard had just woken up far earlier than expected, Wilson was too busy being amazed to act - which could have gotten Shepard killed again - and only after a double dose of sedatives does Shepard go down.  That's certainly not a smile.  That might be a look of concern or maybe (and that's a big maybe) tenderness, but attraction?  I'd lose a fair amount of respect for her if the thoughts running through her mind at that point were anything to the effect of "ooh, he's purdy!"

watch it in motion http://www.youtube.c...eature=related  from 3:15
Pay attention to her reaction when he wakes up, her reaction to wilson and how she looks at him.  Then she lashes out at wilson for almost losing him then looks upon him again.  It's there.  Subtle but it's there.

from 3:54 watch the transition from that gentle expression to anger at Wilson's screw up.  Then back to that expression.

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 02 août 2011 - 05:41 .

[Arijharn]

Sure, but let me counter you with this question: If a woman smiles at you, does that mean she automatically diggs you?

[whywhywhywhy]

Given the context it was put in in my previous post, yeah it means something.
Given how quickily she warms up to him, yeah.
Given the fact that she asks for his help with the one thing she holds as precious, yeah.

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 02 août 2011 - 05:51 .

[Spanky Magoo]

Arijharn wrote...

Sure, but let me counter you with this question: If a woman smiles at you, does that mean she automatically diggs you?

in games usally yes but im not saying thats the case here.

[Arijharn]

I think you see things that you want to read imo, and I watched the short again to see if you're right or not. To me, she's just working to protect Cerberus' investment, considering they spent about 4 billion credits to resurrect him thus far, and therefore not keen to report to the Illusive Man: "Well, we revived him, but he went and died on us almost immediately." It's not at all unregular for nurses to smile at their charges as well, for no other reason than to give reassurance that they're in right hands.

Realistically speaking, how is it even possible for her to develop feelings for him before she's basically met him? I mean she's undoubtedly read Shephard's dossier, but she hasn't obviously held a conversation with him, or do you think she's just being quietly admiring his body for over 2 years, which seems incredible considering at the start she was probably up to her elbows in 'gore' (meat and tubes).

It's just plain unrealistic imo to expect that she's fallen for him at that early of a stage. I'm guessing if you're arguing this, then you pretty much have to believe in love at first sight, which I don't, so with that in mind I'll just stop the argument here now that I think about it.

[LuxDragon]

Arijharn wrote...


Unless she was promoted for basically the sole purpose to bring in Shephard 'quietly,' taking into account the fact that paragon or renegade, Shephard might not actually want to come to Earth to stand trial despite the necessity of what Admiral Hackett alludes to post Arrival. In fact, I think it's actually a pretty safe horse for the powers that be to back in this way, because surely Shephard would be far less likely to shoot a former associate than a miscellaneous Spectre that Shephard has never befriended in the past, and Shephard can say to Liara that he's tired of his 'friends not believing him,' further shining light at the unique position that the VS finds him/herself in.

Speaking of bringing in, I hope we actually get to see that all happen prior to the trial on Earth. I want them to actually arrest my Shephard, not just cutting to it.

Bwahahahaha!!! I'd really like to see them try, I really, really would!

[Vertigo_1]

Here's what I think happened...
She saw for the first time her project awaken...a true sign that at least part of the project she was assigned to was a success (the other part being if his/her memory was intact; which she wouldn't learn about till later).
Considering she invested two years of her life into this I wouldn't be surprised at her reaction and no I don't see the smile at the very beginning as her falling for Shepard...

MisterJB wrote...

She probrably got attached to Shepard and was feeling quite proud of her creation for being such a strong figther.

Or this works too...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 02 août 2011 - 07:18 .

[Vertigo_1]

Oh and I suppose I can leave this here:

twitter.com/#!/chaseBoyajian/status/98229328734715904

"Like #masseffect #dragonage at comic con via #biowarepulse ? What do you want to see at #gamescon in Germany? Planning content now!"

I'd like more of what we saw in Comic-Con. Hopefully something that resembles any sort of detail about Miranda is revealed @ Gamescom.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 02 août 2011 - 07:20 .

[drwells123]

LuxDragon wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

Speaking of bringing in, I hope we actually get to see that all happen prior to the trial on Earth. I want them to actually arrest my Shephard, not just cutting to it.

Bwahahahaha!!! I'd really like to see them try, I really, really would!

I'm picturing something like Trinity's "arrest" in the Matrix, or:



"Anyone else want to arrest my captain? Anyone? Bueller?"

Love that stone killer expression she puts on right there.

[LuxDragon]

I very much doubt it was love, but nothing wrong with attraction either. We're all admitted being attracted to an actress or actor, but it's not like we've ever met them either. (Most of us anyway)

[drwells123]

jreezy wrote...

Spectre>Cerberus aka VS>Miranda as an XO

Probably been said here before, but I'd like it if you could decide your XO, from within some reasonable set of choices, like Miranda/Jacob/VS/Garrus/. Like picking your fire team leader in ME2, but earlier in the game.

[Made Nightwing]

LuxDragon wrote...

Arijharn wrote...


Unless she was promoted for basically the sole purpose to bring in Shephard 'quietly,' taking into account the fact that paragon or renegade, Shephard might not actually want to come to Earth to stand trial despite the necessity of what Admiral Hackett alludes to post Arrival. In fact, I think it's actually a pretty safe horse for the powers that be to back in this way, because surely Shephard would be far less likely to shoot a former associate than a miscellaneous Spectre that Shephard has never befriended in the past, and Shephard can say to Liara that he's tired of his 'friends not believing him,' further shining light at the unique position that the VS finds him/herself in.

Speaking of bringing in, I hope we actually get to see that all happen prior to the trial on Earth. I want them to actually arrest my Shephard, not just cutting to it.

Bwahahahaha!!! I'd really like to see them try, I really, really would!

You want to see Shepard brought down by a co-ordinated and effective plan involving a few thousand stun darts? If Bioware is writing it that the VS brings Shepard in for trial, no amount of evil laughter is gonna stop Ash from getting her man