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[o Ventus]

krukow wrote...

Biotics can't fly.

You took too long.

They both fell to their deaths.

Taboo just pulled a Tali and jumped off a cliff.


GOOD.  JOB.

For all intents and purposes, they actually can. Not for any extended period, but they can "fly" short distances. Vanguard Charge is the perfect example of this.

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...


Synthesis usually ends with her as a researcher somewhere remote. Destroy doesn't bear thinking about.

Synthesis is enacted on a thousand year old false scienetific principle called Vitalism. That has no thinking in it.

Even Ieldra agrees with me here.

It's horse****.

[fiendishchicken]

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

You and your GD logic.

Sometimes even I hate intellectualism.

Yeah. Simple is better sometimes. It's short, sweet, succint, to the point, and you know exactly how to feel.

It's also (at times) horrifically boring.

Of course. I wasn't discounting that at all. 

ME3 was the inverse for both. Incredibly simple and lacking in substance and context where it needed it (Miranda, the kid, The period after the endings) and it tried to hard to be smart, clever, and out there when it should have been simple (The motivation behind the Reapers.)

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

jtav wrote...


Synthesis usually ends with her as a researcher somewhere remote. Destroy doesn't bear thinking about.

Synthesis is enacted on a thousand year old false scienetific principle called Vitalism. That has no thinking in it.

Even Ieldra agrees with me here.

It's horse****.

No synthesist has ever explained how there is any science behind "adding Shepard's life essence to the Crucible" 

Or what happens to the husks. That would be a living hell for one. I'd sooner die than live like that.

[jtav]

flemm wrote...

But really Miranda's tendency has always been to want to see Cerberus as something basically legitimate (Humanity's STG), or potentially legitimate. So, I think she would probably prefer that.

I don't think she has the patience for the bureaucracy true legitimacy would bring. More that it would be a technically illegal group the Alliance gnores because they do more good than harm. A bit like how Batman and others are treated.

[flemm]

Taboo-XX wrote...
Did I ever tell you how much I love that flashback?

I believe you've mentioned it a time or two

I'm actually waiting for somebody to show up and say they f*cking hate the flashback...

At which point we could officially declare that it is possible for Miranda fans to disagree about absolutely everything.

But... so far everybody likes it, I think

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...

flemm wrote...

But really Miranda's tendency has always been to want to see Cerberus as something basically legitimate (Humanity's STG), or potentially legitimate. So, I think she would probably prefer that.

I don't think she has the patience for the bureaucracy true legitimacy would bring. More that it would be a technically illegal group the Alliance gnores because they do more good than harm. A bit like how Batman and others are treated.

Which is why she's in charge with Shepard jtav.

This is not the Alliance. This is a seperate organization.

[Steelcan]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

jtav wrote...
Synthesis usually ends with her as a researcher somewhere remote. Destroy doesn't bear thinking about.

Synthesis is enacted on a thousand year old false scienetific principle called Vitalism. That has no thinking in it.
Even Ieldra agrees with me here.
It's horse****.

No synthesist has ever explained how there is any science behind "adding Shepard's life essence to the Crucible" 
Or what happens to the husks. That would be a living hell for one. I'd sooner die than live like that.

. Which is why destroy is the best ending

[krukow]

jtav wrote...

flemm wrote...

But really Miranda's tendency has always been to want to see Cerberus as something basically legitimate (Humanity's STG), or potentially legitimate. So, I think she would probably prefer that.

I don't think she has the patience for the bureaucracy true legitimacy would bring. More that it would be a technically illegal group the Alliance gnores because they do more good than harm. A bit like how Batman and others are treated.

I think they'd be more like a subcontractor.  Like, the alliance tells them what they want (stability in a region, scientific progress, more pictures of Miranda for the troops, etc), but the group chooses how they go about these things.

I mean, they're welcome to their own research and developments, but once they try to interact with the rest of society, if they're not officially recognized, it's not going to fly with the populace at large.  One reporter uses the word terrorist or warlord, and it's over.

So I would see them achieving Alliance goals, just with their own means...

[o Ventus]

Steelcan wrote...

 Which is why destroy is the best ending

Don't worry. Destroy makes very little logical sense as well.

edit: The building anger is f**king with my ability to structure sentences.

Modifié par o Ventus, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:14 .

[flemm]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I ****ing hate the flashback.

Excellent, it's official

jtav wrote...
I don't think she has the patience for the bureaucracy true legitimacy would bring. More that it would be a technically illegal group the Alliance gnores because they do more good than harm. A bit like how Batman and others are treated.

I don't think the bureaucracy thing would really bother Miranda much, tbh. She does mention something along those lines once or twice, but mostly in passing. On the other hand, she seems to basically be a genius-level administrator, among other things.

So... I dunno. I never really thought the bureaucracy thing would be a big stumbling block for Miranda. She'd probably just deal with it and maybe keep certain things under the table.

I do like some aspects of the "technically not official," but still *basically* authorized idea, though.

Modifié par flemm, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:13 .

[krukow]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

flemm wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Did I ever tell you how much I love that flashback?

I believe you've mentioned it a time or two

I'm actually waiting for somebody to show up and say they f*cking hate the flashback...

At which point we could officially declare that it is possible for Miranda fans to disagree about absolutely everything.

But... so far everybody likes it, I think

I ****ing hate the flashback.

What flashback are we talking about?

The one at the end when you shoot the tube (or make a bad decision)?

Because I hate that flashback.

Because I only get it when Miranda's dead

[Steelcan]

o Ventus wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

 Which is why destroy is the best ending

Don't worry. Destroy makes very little logical sense either.

. Still the best

[flemm]

krukow wrote...

What flashback are we talking about?

We're just talking about the animation itself, which can show up in a couple of different places in the EC.

[krukow]

flemm wrote...

krukow wrote...

What flashback are we talking about?

We're just talking about the animation itself, which can show up in a couple of different places in the EC.

Seriously though, it's a cute flashback, and I'm really glad that renegade Chris Shepard isn't thinking about Liara anymore when he shoots the tube.

[flemm]

[jtav]

@flemm

I think the idea that she could be stopped or stymied by politics would be a dealbreaker. I see it as more something like Hackett asking (or Miranda deciding on her own) that some illegal research needs to be performed or a terrorist needs to be assassinated and Miranda doing that. So the Alliance would be simultaneously denouncing and helping under the table.

I don't think we're that far apart. I just place stronger emphasis on Miranda's contempt for the Alliance.

[o Ventus]

flemm wrote...

Why does it seem the animation wasn't finished before the camera cut over? Her arm is still swaying when the scene changes, and it pisses me off that I can't see the rest of the action taking place.

Modifié par o Ventus, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:26 .

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

@flemm

I think the idea that she could be stopped or stymied by politics would be a dealbreaker. I see it as more something like Hackett asking (or Miranda deciding on her own) that some illegal research needs to be performed or a terrorist needs to be assassinated and Miranda doing that. So the Alliance would be simultaneously denouncing and helping under the table.

I don't think we're that far apart. I just place stronger emphasis on Miranda's contempt for the Alliance.

Well, it would certainly be boring if we all had exactly the same idea

[flemm]

o Ventus wrote...

Why does it seem the animation wasn't finished before the camera cut over? Her arm is still swaying when the scene changes, and it pisses me off that I can't see the rest of the action taking place.

I think the full animation there is maybe slightly longer than you actually see in the game? I dunno... I definitely see what you mean about wanting to see the scene continue. But I really like the dynamic of the animation all the same.