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[whywhywhywhy]

Yannkee wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Look up Nightingale Syndrome and read this. http://social.biowar...709/285#8015271

This is my position on it. 

Your opinion is interesting. 
Personally I don't agree, I think she fell for him during or just after her loyalty mission, before that, I would say that she respects the Spectre, and could be interested in Shepard as a person due to the fact that she knows everything about him.
But you're not the first one I see posting this kind of theory, and I don't see major flaws in it. It's just your interpretation of her romance.

Fair enough.  You have your intepretation and I have mine.

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 02 août 2011 - 07:51 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Re: Miranda being attracted to Shepard during Lazarus. You have no evidence. None. She performs the exact same facial animations with a female Shepard and treats them identically at that. Therefore, we have to have a theory that encompasses both version. And. frankly, Shepard is in bad shape for most of that time. Hideous. Besides, isn't it more meaningful if she only becomes attracted by proving he deserves it by risking himself for someone she loves?

This.I find the idea that Miranda fell for Shepard while he was on her table somehwat creepy. And the given arguments are all of the "why else would she...." kind. I can imagine several other reasons why she acted as she did. 

And because I'm too tired to post more intelligent things....

[wright1978]

Yeah not sure about the whole Miranda falls for Shepherd while she rebuilds him theory. Though I do chuckle every time during that opening sequence when she's going on about Shep heart rate spiking and i'm sitting there thinking, yes that likely from waking up to see vision of loveliness like Miranda leaning over him can have that effect on a guy.

[Caihn]

wright1978 wrote...

Yeah not sure about the whole Miranda falls for Shepherd while she rebuilds him theory. Though I do chuckle every time during that opening sequence when she's going on about Shep heart rate spiking and i'm sitting there thinking, yes that likely from waking up to see vision of loveliness like Miranda leaning over him can have that effect on a guy.

"Am I in heaven ?"

Modifié par Yannkee, 02 août 2011 - 08:08 .

[Jebel Krong]

Yannkee wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Look up Nightingale Syndrome and read this. http://social.biowar...709/285#8015271

This is my position on it. 

Your opinion is interesting. 
Personally I don't agree, I think she fell for him during or just after her loyalty mission, before that, I would say that she respects the Spectre, and could be interested in Shepard as a person due to the fact that she knows everything about him.
But you're not the first one I see posting this kind of theory, and I don't see major flaws in it. It's just your interpretation of her romance.

i agree with your time-frame and the LoSB videos suggest nightingale syndrome is unlikely (seemingly still on terms with Jacob during Lazarus).

@ lux & nightwing i see no source for their wiki article re rank and i don't remember seeing it in the codex though it's been a while since i played ME1...

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yannkee wrote...


"Am I in heaven ?"

That is exactly what I think to myself every time. Like I've died and gone to heaven, seeing this Gorgeous Angel staring down at me. Hearing her heavenly voice. 

BW, please....don't fail us. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 août 2011 - 08:12 .

[Caihn]

Careful Thane, the last time she aimed someone like this, she didn't wait to pull the trigger. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ Very true:wub:. Wilson didn't see it coming.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 août 2011 - 08:19 .

[Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz]

Yannkee wrote...


"Am I in heaven ?"

 

Beautiful

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz wrote...


Beautiful

I know. Miri's Beauty, Mind, and Everything Else are incredibly irresistible.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 août 2011 - 08:46 .

[Caihn]

Dead Island preview on Games.On.Net

In practice, it’s a bit of a different story. The problem is the characters necessitated by the game’s setting, which is a fictional island by the name of Banoi sandwiched somewhere between Papua New Guinea and our modest little penal colony. Or rather, it’s their voices that are the problem. Techland have a very exaggerated, stereotypical idea of what an Australian sounds like, and Dead Island is full of Steve Irwins. One vital NPC is actually supposed to be a Kiwi – a modern-day Maori complete with a facial tattoo, actually, as if it they couldn’t get more deliberate about things – but he sounds like a miner from Mackay. If BioWare could get it exactly right with Miranda in Mass Effect 2, I don’t see how things went so comically wrong here. The rest of the world most likely won’t bat a cochlea, but for Australian gamers Dead Island is very hard to take seriously – and it all but dissolves the fear of being alone against the horde with naught but a boat-paddle for comfort. Most of the time, you’re giggling and/or groaning. Mostly groaning. 

It seems like some Australian voice actor/actress are not as talented as Yvonne. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Sorry if this is off topic for some reason. Though I don't understand why it would be off topic. <_<


Hopefully, we will hear news about Yvonne recording her voice and having her face scanned for Miri, and soon.

*Fingers Crossed*

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 août 2011 - 09:01 .

[LuxDragon]

Something for jtav:

[TomY90]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Sorry if this is off topic for some reason. Though I don't understand why it would be off topic. <_<


Hopefully, we will hear news about Yvonne recording her voice and having her face scanned for Miri, and soon.

*Fingers Crossed*

I doubt they will be rescanning Yvonne's face considering they have the original scans from last time.

I doubt they will show recordings of her doing the voice acting any time soon.

At most for now we may see Miranda like they did from James Vega recently or even a unveiling more low key like they did for Legion and Mordin.

[Aliqaiser]

Yannkee wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Yeah not sure about the whole Miranda falls for Shepherd while she rebuilds him theory. Though I do chuckle every time during that opening sequence when she's going on about Shep heart rate spiking and i'm sitting there thinking, yes that likely from waking up to see vision of loveliness like Miranda leaning over him can have that effect on a guy.

"Am I in heaven ?"

U SURE ARE;), I MEAN WE ALL ARE:D

Modifié par Aliqaiser, 02 août 2011 - 10:14 .

[GuitarShredUK]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Sorry if this is off topic for some reason. Though I don't understand why it would be off topic. <_<


Hopefully, we will hear news about Yvonne recording her voice and having her face scanned for Miri, and soon.

*Fingers Crossed*

EDIT: ninja'd by TomY90...doh. 

Why would Yvonne need to have her face re-scanned for ME3? The guys on the art/design team should just be able to import per se the ME2 scan files and load them into the ME3 game engine...unless they want to go all out with a fresh scan just so that people can get super analytical of the differences between ME2>3. 

Her VA schedule-wise, I guess it will depend on how busy the guys on the Chuck team get as they are well into shooting for Season 5 right now. 

Modifié par GuitarShredUK, 02 août 2011 - 10:10 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

GuitarShredUK wrote...

Why would Yvonne need to have her face re-scanned for ME3? The guys on the art/design team should just be able to import per se the ME2 scan files and load them into the ME3 game engine...unless they want to go all out with a fresh scan just so that people can get super analytical of the differences between ME2>3. 

Her VA schedule-wise, I guess it will depend on how busy the guys on the Chuck team get as they are well into shooting for Season 5 right now. 

 

I hope they don't replace Yvonne.

Yvonne is Miri, and Miri is Yvonne. I hope BW realizes us!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 août 2011 - 10:19 .

[Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz]

Relax, Iam sure she is back. Although, the question is, how big her role is

[jtav]

I think Miranda could use some mild edits to compensate for the truly horrible things the lighting system does to her face and her tendency to fall into the Uncanny Valley. Particularly her perfectly symmetrical face.

Anyway, I promised a teaser. The narrator here is not "our" Shepherd but a disabled brother.

They filed into the room one by one. I recognized most of them by sight, either from seeing them in the cafeteria every day or from the branch directory. Lucas Krohnbeg, head of R&D at the Chicago office and technically my boss if you went far enough up the chain, though I doubt we'd ever said more than two words to each other. His green eyes looked me up and down as she entered and a faint scowl crossed his lips, as if he was calculating how much time this presentation was going to cost him and didn't like the answer. Teddy Shukla, one of our marketing guys. He smiled a little at me when he came in. His daughter had Morlin’s Syndrome just like I did, and I’d given him a few tips on navigating the labyrinth that was the Systems Alliance health insurance bureaucracy, and we’d occasionally get together for drinks and **** about things like how hard it was to navigate a hoverchair through a department store when displays took up half the aisles. Petra Surkov was in Accounting. She’d been with Hahne-Kedar for as long as the rest of us put together. Her dark hair was streaked with gray and pulled into a loose bun. She didn't look at me directly, but fiddled with her PDA.

There was a second woman I didn't recognize. The first thing I noticed was the way she moved. She didn't merely file in; she strode into the conference room as if she expected to be in charge. Her movements were too brisk and abrupt to be called graceful, but there was no wasted movement at all. The second thing I noticed was that she was gorgeous. Dark hair pooled elegantly onto her shoulders, with a few strands falling artfully in front of her face. Her skin was pale in a way you normally didn’t see outside of film stars who bleached their skin religiously. You didn’t see eyes like hers often either. Plain blue eyes like Johnny's were rare enough, but hers were a mix of blue and grey, dark enough to almost pass for sapphire in this light. I wondered how much it had cost her to look like that. I could barely tell I hand back from a hacksaw, but her close looked way more expensive than what was typical for middle management at H-K. She looked like she should be jet setting in New Calcutta or Bekenstein or Ilium, not sitting in on my presentation. My mouth went dry. It was hard enough keeping in control of my body at the best of times. Public speaking made it worse. Giving the presentation in front of a mysterious supermodel of a woman whose every cell seemed to scream "beyond you mere mortals?” You might as well ask me to take Johnny’s place in the Navy. Slow, deep breaths, that was the ticket.

I cleared my throat. “Thank you for giving this time to me today. I'll be as brief as I can. You all know that our omni-tools and Haptic interfaces depend upon semi-solid holograms they can be interacted with almost as if they were physical objects. But we can use that technology for more than interfaces. Change the frequency a little bit, and the holographic light becomes virtually indistinguishable from a fully material object. We can create alter our kinetic barrier emitters to produce a second layer of armor alongside normal shields, effectively doubling protective capability without the use of bulky new equipment."

Everyone’s eyebrows went up, even the mystery woman's. I chose to take that as a good sign. Increasing shield capacity was vital if we were going to stand up to the pirates that have made the Traverse their personal playground. The Alliance couldn’t or wouldn't increase garrison forces to the level we needed, so I had to come up with a way to make the soldiers we did have more effective. It was the only way to keep another Mindoir from happening. I rattled off a list of technical specs, forcing myself to speak slowly and enunciate every syllable. The Morlin’s made me sound like an overly caffeinated chipmunk when I got too excited, and there were few things more exciting than bending the laws of physics and making them do what you wanted.

“Would this new armor of yours protect against environmental hazards?” Kohnberg frowned. “The Alliance has been extremely interested in anything that’ll protect against heat and cold extremes."

"Not any more than your average kinetic barrier. The focus is on stopping gunfire. Once the system is perfected, I estimate it'd be able to absorb double the impact.”

“Pity,” David muttered. “We could make a killing selling that to survey themes on hostile worlds. Chip into Devlon’s market share."

I could feel my voice getting higher and higher. "This isn't about survey teams. This is about outfitting our troops to fight slavers and pirates!”

Surkov shook her head. "Current Alliance policy is to depend on fleet, not garrison, strength to protect the colonies. It's extremely unlikely they would purchase this in large enough numbers for us to make back our investment in a timely manner."

“Then we convince them that they need this." I glared at David. "Isn't that your job? It’s technology like this that could stop another Mindoir!”

I saw David and Surkov exchange sideways glances. I knew what they were thinking, that I was doing this because what happened on Mindoir, that the holographic armor was a product of misplaced grief and guilt. Maybe there was a little truth to that. Johnny was training to shoot the batarian bastards. Nothing could bring Mom and Dad back, but he was at least doing something about the people that killed them. I was too crippled to do anything except doodle ideas on napkins and hope they worked.

"The shortsightedness of Alliance brass aside, your ideas are very intriguing.” The mystery woman's voice was cold with a faint accent. English or Australian. I always got Earth accents mixed up. She even sounded filthy rich. "So, tell me, Mr. Shepherd: what do you need to move beyond the idea stage?"

[Prudii Aden]

Interesting premise jtav. I'm curious to see how it will go!

[naledgeborn]

Sorry for spamming, trying to go dark on ME3 spoilers. Overwhelmed by Miranda curiosity. Any news yet? Or still speculating?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Still speculation I'm afraid.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 12:12 .

[LuxDragon]

There was talk of several scenes involving Miranda that needed to be looked over, but that's it.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

LuxDragon wrote...

There was talk of several scenes involving Miranda that needed to be looked over, but that's it.

Yeah pretty much. I don't think  that we will see anything new about her for awhile. Possibly Months until we see at least a screenshot.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 01:07 .

[Arijharn]

whywhywhywhy wrote...
Ok so you say it's all strictly business 4 billion credits then you say a nurse smiles at her patient for reassurance.  Which is it ?  TIM spent 4 billion credits if it's just about keeping him alive for that reason she would have been at the monitor watching Wilson to make sure he doesn't screw up again.  Not Smiling at Shepard.  Right ?  It's all about protecting the investment.  Or is it ?

Ummm... it's because he's both a person and an investment? Because she obviously doesn't want Shephard to potentially do more injury to himself due to the shock of being in the situation he's in, and that's on-top of his rapidly increasing heartbeat and other factors at the moment.

Just because someone smiles at you doesn't mean that person's fallen for you, surely I didn't have to explain that one to you.

Shephard's probably worried, Miranda is doing what she can, as minor as it is, to prevent Shephard from
a) Siezing her as some hostage
Dying. Again.
c) Restraining him so that extra medical attention can be presented to him.

whywhywhywhy wrote...
Look up Nightingale Syndrome and read this. http://social.biowar...709/285#8015271

This is my position on it. 

All the more power to you, but I still disagree, it's also rather interesting that it's called Nightingale syndrome when Florence Nightingale apparently never had a romance with any of her patients or even got married, which I honestly don't think helps your case at all. It's also mentioned in the same article that it isn't necessarily a real effect, but one that originated in pop-culture. (Specifically Back To The Future, which is actually pretty awesome imo).

You're basically saying that Miranda fell in love with her own idealised version of Shephard (since sure she read his dossier, but she hadn't actually engaged with him as a person) and I can't imagine someone like Miranda doing that at all, or anyone really because of information in the link you yourself provided.

As for my personal thoughts on the matter, I think it would be really odd for Miranda to develop feelings for her charge in such a way, because it has no basis on how actual attraction between two people is naturally formed.