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[fiendishchicken]

Mr Massakka wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Design oversight. It's still a good look into Tali's mind and a fairly accurate summation of Miranda. It also makes a good point that it's better for Miranda to be respected than merely liked.

Yep, I like that part about Miranda. Speaking as if Miranda's dead, not so much. It feeds my suspicion that Miranda was planned to die at some point, which I'd greatly resent if it were true. If it's just a mistake, it's not a big deal.

It's more evidence to how "hard" they tried when making Mass Effect 3. 

It's a statement that can't be made enough, and I don't think anyone disagrees at all with it. Mass Effect 3 needed at least another year and a half in development.

While I agree that the additional time might have fixed a few issues, I doubt it would be that much better.

It would still be aimed at the wrong crowd with the same terrible lead writer. I would still have the kid on Earth, forced feelings, synthetics-vs-organics nonsene, auto-dialogue and many other issues. 

Only thing I can imagine especially for the place I am talking here: It would have probably fixed Miranda to some point. They recognized the dissatisfaction while the game was already nearly finsihed and just had the time to add a lousy letter now. A year more might have given them more options.

I don't disagree at all. Add it with my list I just posted.

[wright1978]

fiendishchicken wrote...



No, at the very least it needed no less than 14-16 months. It's more than just the endings. There's a f*ckton of wrong with all of ME3.  

- Auto-dialogue
- Fetch-Quests (I'm ok with them, but there needs to be just as many actual sidequests)
- Lack of Miranda (meaningful and literal)
- Lack of choice (player agency is all but kicked out the window)
- No real final battle scenes (This is the epic conclusion)
- The design of the final choice overall (I prefer the choices made over the trilogy give you an ending, along with      the -RGB choice if you wish. What I mean is for Refuse. Depending on the choices you made, You can have a    victory    with refuse, or abysmal failure where the Reapers curbstomp the galaxy forever)
- Better opening and intro mission
- Actual acknowledgement of the lore that has been established
- Redo Cerberus completely
- fixed journal and codex
- ability to holster weapons
- have said weapons appear in cutscenes
- fix the movement animation
- more hubs
- bigger hubs
- scrub the tech singularity (organics vs synthetics) and the Reapers/Glow sticks motivation.

Anyone add anything else that needs work.

Nitpicky? Maybe. But Bioware should have gone the extra mile for their fans. I do it for my troops, and I'm one person. Bioware is hundreds of people with a multi-million dollar budget. They could've had everything I mentioned, don't try to say otherwise.

Agree completely. 6 months might have got some of the worst sins of ME3 out of the game. Final part of the trilogy needed a lot more extra time to do it proper justice. 

Modifié par wright1978, 03 septembre 2012 - 09:43 .

[Steelcan]

^. Yes that may be what you wanted, but wasting time on what could have is just that, a waste. That said there is definite room for improvement, but I think your demands are no good at this point

[Stalker]

fiendishchicken wrote...
- Auto-dialogue
- Fetch-Quests (I'm ok with them, but there needs to be just as many actual sidequests)
- Lack of Miranda (meaningful and literal)
- Lack of choice (player agency is all but kicked out the window)
- No real final battle scenes (This is the epic conclusion)
- The design of the final choice overall (I prefer the choices made over the trilogy give you an ending, along with      the -RGB choice if you wish. What I mean is for Refuse. Depending on the choices you made, You can have a    victory    with refuse, or abysmal failure where the Reapers curbstomp the galaxy forever)
- Better opening and intro mission
- Actual acknowledgement of the lore that has been established
- Redo Cerberus completely
- fixed journal and codex
- ability to holster weapons
- have said weapons appear in cutscenes
- fix the movement animation
- more hubs
- bigger hubs
- scrub the tech singularity (organics vs synthetics) and the Reapers/Glow sticks motivation.

I agree with all the things above, they need to be fixed pretty bad, BUT...
I scrapped all the things that would have probably been the same, even with more development time.

Auto-dialogue, lack of actual roleplay, plot for Cerberus and Miranda, technological singularity and final choice,... these are all artistic decisions that have been made on purpose and it's likely that they wouldn't have changed until 2013. 

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 03 septembre 2012 - 09:58 .

[Taboo]

Are you ready to feel REALLY frustrated? All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub after you download it.

It has "hub" files already revealed.

All this and Aria as a potential part time LI!

Does this please you?

[krukow]

If u get a Miranda dlc, expect it to be last.

Makes the most fiscal sense.

[Steelcan]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Are you ready to feel REALLY frustrated? All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub after you download it.

It has "hub" files already revealed.

All this and Aria as a potential part time LI!

Does this please you?

. What?

[flemm]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Are you ready to feel REALLY frustrated? All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub after you download it.

I thought that was expected?

[hot_heart]

krukow wrote...

If u get a Miranda dlc, expect it to be last.

Makes the most fiscal sense.

And regular sense. 'Save the best till last."

Imagine Omega as a hub, wandering around, eavesdropping on vorcha and doing their fetch quests.

Modifié par hot_heart, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:08 .

[Taboo]

Steelcan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Are you ready to feel REALLY frustrated? All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub after you download it.

It has "hub" files already revealed.

All this and Aria as a potential part time LI!

Does this please you?

. What?

Real simple dawg. All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub World once you retake it, just like it was in ME2.

And if you're so inclined you CAN **** Aria. Literally.

Only 1200 MSP or $9.99.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Real simple dawg. All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub World once you retake it, just like it was in ME2.

And if you're so inclined you CAN **** Aria. Literally.

Only 1200 MSP or $9.99.

Can I pay $10.00 to tell her I'm too busy to help her, and then overhear a news report that she died trying?

I'd debate spending that ten bucks...

Modifié par krukow, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:13 .

[jtav]

Taboo the "Aria as LI" is from the leak of the November script--it was cut from the original game. Whether it will be put in DLC is impossible to know.

[Steelcan]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Are you ready to feel REALLY frustrated? All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub after you download it.
It has "hub" files already revealed.
All this and Aria as a potential part time LI!
Does this please you?

. What?

Real simple dawg. All signs point to Omega becoming a Hub World once you retake it, just like it was in ME2.
And if you're so inclined you CAN **** Aria. Literally.

Only 1200 MSP or $9.99.

. Hopefully this will be be decent DLC with an actual impact on the game, oh wait it doesn't matter BGR pick one, or don't and lose

[flemm]

Mr Massakka wrote...
Auto-dialogue, lack of actual roleplay, plot for Cerberus and Miranda, technological singularity and final choice,... these are all artistic decisions that have been made on purpose and it's likely that they wouldn't have changed until 2013. 

Of these, I think the way the endings work might have been improved with more time, because it seems that was the result of some really bad last-minute decisions, and lack of normal peer review by other writers. Otherwise, you're probably right.

[Taboo]

Omega was cut jtav. All of it.

I wouldn't put it past Bioware that's all. Seeing as people seem to want it I can't imagine why they wouldn't. I will predict right here, right now, that if she does in fact get a romance scene, someone here is going to get upset.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Omega was cut jtav. All of it.

I wouldn't put it past Bioware that's all. Seeing as people seem to want it I can't imagine why they wouldn't. I will predict right here, right now, that if she does in fact get a romance scene, someone here is going to get upset.

dude, she's asari.  You'll get a scene.

[Steelcan]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Omega was cut jtav. All of it.

I wouldn't put it past Bioware that's all. Seeing as people seem to want it I can't imagine why they wouldn't. I will predict right here, right now, that if she does in fact get a romance scene, someone here is going to get upset.

. Well if it's well done it might be pretty good.  However I doubt Bioware can pull it off

[Steelcan]

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Omega was cut jtav. All of it.

I wouldn't put it past Bioware that's all. Seeing as people seem to want it I can't imagine why they wouldn't. I will predict right here, right now, that if she does in fact get a romance scene, someone here is going to get upset.

dude, she's asari.  You'll get a scene.

. Which is more than Miranda, Tali, Garrus etc.... got 

[krukow]

Tali and Garrus don't have a scene??

[MACharlie1]

So LoneWolf117 had a little quick tutorial and backdrop for making your own studio scenes and I tested this one out.

[Taboo]

Liara gets a scene. We've already discussed this. Tali and Garrus do not. They get fade to black scenes.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Liara gets a scene. We've already discussed this. Tali and Garrus do not. They get fade to black scenes.

Well, the humans get a scene (well, the ME3 ones do), so I assumed all LI's on the Normandy get a pre-cronos scene.

I wonder if trying to render a human/quarian or human/turian scene was just too difficult without making it look rediculous...

[MACharlie1]

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Liara gets a scene. We've already discussed this. Tali and Garrus do not. They get fade to black scenes.

Well, the humans get a scene (well, the ME3 ones do), so I assumed all LI's on the Normandy get a pre-cronos scene.

I wonder if trying to render a human/quarian or human/turian scene was just too difficult without making it look rediculous...

Cortez doesn't get a scene. 

Techinically Samantha doesn't get one either but she gets a shower scene...

[Steelcan]

krukow wrote...

Tali and Garrus don't have a scene??

nope, they get a fade to black with them and Shepard sitting there, no scene

[Taboo]

Yeah but there's pillow talk.

Miranda simply gets a fade to black and you're thrust out of the apartment.

I'm not complaining but it really bothers others in here.