dtrain24 wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
I suppose the mid point for Neutral Shepard's is just called Neutral yes?
No fancy nomenclature?
That's all I've heard. Though unless he's in the exact middle, he could be Paragade or Renegon.
krukow wrote...
And I can see them not enjoying robofascist, who would never care that six digits of humans were killed when she could get a new techy weapon to use against the reapers.
flemm wrote...
What rules are those?
No I'm not. All she says is that "seeing it firsthand, it feels like a betrayal". She's not making an absolute statement, she's hesitating. She's allowing human suffering to cause her to pause.flemm wrote...
krukow wrote...
And I can see them not enjoying robofascist, who would never care that six digits of humans were killed when she could get a new techy weapon to use against the reapers.
Look, I don't agree that the lines at the base are out of character, but the version of the argument you are presenting is just inaccurate and distorted.
Taboo-XX wrote...
Personal attacks. Inappropriate pictures (not of Miranda if you catch my drift) among other things. And I'm not innocent either so don't think I'm trying to pass myself as clean here.
krukow wrote...
No I'm not. All she says is that "seeing it firsthand, it feels like a betrayal". She's not making an absolute
statement, she's hesitating. She's allowing human suffering to cause her to pause.
krukow wrote...
AndI can see them not enjoying robofascist, who would never care that six digits of humans were killed when she could get a new techy weapon to use against the reapers.
Modifié par flemm, 04 septembre 2012 - 03:13 .
krukow wrote...
Which would be fine if that was her choice in-game. But it's not, and then people come on line and see you all
claiming that because she didn't act that way she was a mutilated character who had been destroyed. And I can see them being turned off by it because your'e demanding that a three dimensional character be turned into a static character that ignores human suffereing.
She could have made that arguement. She didn't. And you all do your best to ruin her character over it because of your own immature political opinions.
It's a turn off to many fans.
Modifié par flemm, 04 septembre 2012 - 03:25 .
flemm wrote...
krukow wrote...
Which would be fine if that was her choice in-game. But it's not, and then people come on line and see you all
claiming that because she didn't act that way she was a mutilated character who had been destroyed. And I can see them being turned off by it because your'e demanding that a three dimensional character be turned into a static character that ignores human suffereing.
She could have made that arguement. She didn't. And you all do your best to ruin her character over it because of your own immature political opinions.
It's a turn off to many fans.
Fans can have whatever opinions they please. The only thing I take issue with is suggesting they shouldn't.
Disagree with whomever you like, as vehemently as you like. But I will always disagree with any suggestion that fans shouldn't have a certain opinion because certain other people don't like it, or don't agree with it.
If someone has an unpopular opinion, then all the more reason that it should be respected. Unless it is truly objectionable in some way, which is not the case here.
Taboo-XX wrote...
I saw the foreshadowing and I've been expecting this for three years. The outsider who wanted in. Your interpretation was mutilated and ruined not mine. But that doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong here.
I'm not as angry as many people here. These characters are not the high point of artistic achievement. I've seen them before and I'll see them again. It's unbalanced in ME3 to the nth degree but these manifestations are not shocking to me.
That's why DLC is needed. To help accommodate MOST people's vision of the character.
krukow wrote...
fine, but going back to the original point, that's why a lot of people may not like the mirithread. Because
of a few fans who have such an ugly interpretation of the character. You can value it all you want, but maybe there's a reason Bioware sidelined her. And that reason might rhyme with Jtav/o ventus
Modifié par flemm, 04 septembre 2012 - 03:42 .
General Slotts wrote...
Yeah, it probably was out of character for her to say that. But unspeakable horrors were committed there, it makes sense that she would be rattled.
Yannkee wrote...
General Slotts wrote...
Yeah, it probably was out of character for her to say that. But unspeakable horrors were committed there, it makes sense that she would be rattled.
This line is not OOC if you analyse it correctly. This has nothing to do with her emotional state.
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flemm wrote...
krukow wrote...
fine, but going back to the original point, that's why a lot of people may not like the mirithread. Because
of a few fans who have such an ugly interpretation of the character. You can value it all you want, but maybe there's a reason Bioware sidelined her. And that reason might rhyme with Jtav/o ventus
This thread's been doing just fine since the forum opened, so somehow we struggle on
As to your comment about other posters, it's nonsensical and rather ugly in its own right.
So... I guess that's why you fit right in around here?
krukow wrote...
Which would be fine if that was her choice in-game. But it's not, and then people come on line and see you all claiming that because she didn't act that way she was a mutilated character who had been destroyed. And I can see them being turned off by it because your'e demanding that a three dimensional character be turned into a static character that ignores human suffereing.
She could have made that arguement. She didn't. And you all do your best to ruin her character over it because of your own immature political opinions.
It's a turn off to many fans.
Yannkee wrote...
You don't seem to realize how many fans don't like this thread.
I also receive many messages from fans on other sites who don't want to come here.
Modifié par flemm, 04 septembre 2012 - 03:55 .
flemm wrote...
Yannkee wrote...
You don't seem to realize how many fans don't like this thread.
I also receive many messages from fans on other sites who don't want to come here.
That's as may be. It really doesn't change the basic idea that everybody has a right to express their views. To try to impose them aggressively on others? No, that is not a good idea. And it does happen at times. Which is unfortunate.
But as long as people are willing to listen, then there should really be no problem.
It's not the same, because I'm fine with the character presented on screen, from begining to end. I don't want the on-screen product changed. You all do, to fit in-line with your interpretation.Babi_Siha wrote...
She could have made that arguement. She didn't. And you all do your best to ruin her character over it because of your own immature political opinions.
You know, that's a two way street. You were arguing just as passionate about that dialogue, you even called us fascists who wanted Miranda to be a souless robot (actually I'm not sure if that was you, if it wasn't I apologize, but it was from someone who shared your view).
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