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The problem is that you if you bring squadmates back for a single combat mission like LotSB, you have to build animations for all of their attacks and such. You have to write and code an entire set of combat dialogue. You might have to make idle animations and such. The same amount of work for any other squadmate, but it might feel like a bit of a waste if it's only for one mission. And it might feel like an even bigger disappointment if the squadmate doesn't return to the Normandy after the mission or missions are completed.

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Asakawa wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Just finished LotSB in my ME2 replay. If only Shepard and Miranda taking down TIM had been in ME3 and been like this. That's what I had considered possible until the leaked script.


LotSB is a DLC, so maybe. Want to talk about LI injustice? Try Liara without LotSB in ME2. ME2 Ash/Kaidan go without saying… all three of those are far worse than what anyone got in ME3.

(As always, this doesn’t mean I’d not love to see improvements—just that Miranda fans certainly aren’t uniquely put-upon here.)


Hm........ yet she was in ME1?
Anyway, that's not the point,
ME3 was supposed to be about everybody. Not just Me1 crew nor ME2. both.


Yep this. Such a biased limited roster imo.

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David7204 wrote...
The problem is that you if you bring squadmates back for a single combat mission like LotSB, you have to build animations for all of their attacks and such.

And Anderson was a complete waste.

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David7204 wrote...

The problem is that you if you bring squadmates back for a single combat mission like LotSB, you have to build animations for all of their attacks and such. You have to write and code an entire set of combat dialogue. You might have to make idle animations and such. The same amount of work for any other squadmate, but it might feel like a bit of a waste if it's only for one mission. And it might feel like an even bigger disappointment if the squadmate doesn't return to the Normandy after the mission or missions are completed.


LotSB, and Arrival?

And every character shares the same animations regarding powers. They have the same animaton in the cut scenes.

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Skullheart wrote...

Garrus: Hey Shepard, I have an entire task force trusting mewith the reapers problems.But I think it should better to leave them and join you.

Tali: Oh my knight in shining armor, I'm an admiral now,with lots of responbilities, there's thousands of people who needs my "leadership" skills. But I can abandon them to join you in your crusade against the reapers.

Miranda:Hey Shepard, Ori is safe now, nothing can hurt her anymore. Bye bye.


bioware, just WTF?!

You didn't even give a reason for not havung Miranda back, but you ignored reason for some characters to not join Shepard.


Yep was thinking this myself.

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wright1978 wrote...

Yep this. Such a biased limited roster imo.


Yes, I was definitely sick of more Tali (some say she was only a permanent squad because of fan demand) and even Garrus (as much as I like him, he didn't really do anything plot wise). And Vega, who was there to please possible new players, old players be damned, I'd throw him out the airlock in a heart beat if I could. BioWare was always biased to their favorites characters or in Tali's case, they couldn't deal with the pressure of bunch of crazy fans.

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hot_heart wrote...

David7204 wrote...
The problem is that you if you bring squadmates back for a single combat mission like LotSB, you have to build animations for all of their attacks and such.

And Anderson was a complete waste.


Don't forget Wilson and Jenkins.

Too bad Vega didn't follow bw's tradition.

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I love Javik though. I would never complain about the ultimate space troll. He compliments my Shepard very well.

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But Tali? Sure.

It just feels lonely. I would argue that my Shepard was closer to the ME2 than the ME1 one.

ALAS...

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Babi_Siha wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Yep this. Such a biased limited roster imo.


Yes, I was definitely sick of more Tali (some say she was only a permanent squad because of fan demand) and even Garrus (as much as I like him, he didn't really do anything plot wise). And Vega, who was there to please possible new players, old players be damned, I'd throw him out the airlock in a heart beat if I could. BioWare was always biased to their favorites characters or in Tali's case, they couldn't deal with the pressure of bunch of crazy fans.

. I think having Tali and Garrus was fine you needed some people who were there for it all.  That said Miranda should have been a squadmate even if only for a few missions.  Vega was meh, his hair it wa just like Soap's not so subtle prod for CoD fanboys

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I really doubt Vega's hair was a "prod" for "CoD fanboys."

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Skullheart wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

David7204 wrote...
The problem is that you if you bring squadmates back for a single combat mission like LotSB, you have to build animations for all of their attacks and such.

And Anderson was a complete waste.


Don't forget Wilson and Jenkins.

Too bad Vega didn't follow bw's tradition.

It'd go something like this.

Vega: I'm not leaving Earth! I'd have to be loco in the coco to do so!
Shepard: ..Alright, have fun. Joker, move out!
Vega: Okay Reapers, you want a piece of me?
*Vega gets blown up by a Reaper*

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David7204 wrote...

I really doubt Vega's hair was a "prod" for "CoD fanboys."


He IS there for new players. That is not something you can contest. This was stated by Bioware.

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David7204 wrote...

I really doubt Vega's hair was a "prod" for "CoD fanboys."


The whole game had a purpose to draw in a lot of new fans, many of which were from CoD.

It was being marketed at the wrong people.

New gamers want to play Mass Effect? Great, give them a copy of the first game and have them start from there.

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Skullheart wrote...

David7204 wrote...

The problem is that you if you bring squadmates back for a single combat mission like LotSB, you have to build animations for all of their attacks and such. You have to write and code an entire set of combat dialogue. You might have to make idle animations and such. The same amount of work for any other squadmate, but it might feel like a bit of a waste if it's only for one mission. And it might feel like an even bigger disappointment if the squadmate doesn't return to the Normandy after the mission or missions are completed.


LotSB, and Arrival?

And every character shares the same animations regarding powers. They have the same animaton in the cut scenes.





Control c control v from mass effect 2's code index! Done!

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A Question to all viewers - How many of you prefer Tundra climate and Find it unique or cool than the other climate's present, and... if there is another climate you prefer over Tundra, please state that as well. Thank you.

Just a recent concept, yet under team Discussion, for Future episodes.

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I'm okay with ME3's squad. Though I think one or two ME2 members would make a nice addition. Personally, I enjoyed the ME2 characters a lot more than the ME1 (barring Wrex. I love Wrex.)

I understand Thane, Legion, and Mordin dying. Jacob was not a dynamic enough character to really get my attention. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Miranda the hardest person to kill in the SM? Even Garrus and Tali have more opportunities to die...I think.

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She is very hard to kill. The "she could be dead" excuse is not an excuse. But I won't get into that here.

I'm okay with Thane and Mordin. My canon Shepard never meets Legion.

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katcrave wrote...

I'm okay with ME3's squad. Though I think one or two ME2 members would make a nice addition. Personally, I enjoyed the ME2 characters a lot more than the ME1 (barring Wrex. I love Wrex.)

I understand Thane, Legion, and Mordin dying. Jacob was not a dynamic enough character to really get my attention. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Miranda the hardest person to kill in the SM? Even Garrus and Tali have more opportunities to die...I think.

. Yes Wrex was awesome Jacob sucked and Miranda is pretty hard to kill

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Taboo-XX wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I really doubt Vega's hair was a "prod" for "CoD fanboys."


He IS there for new players. That is not something you can contest. This was stated by Bioware.


You're being misleading.  He wasn't there to attract new players, he was there so (in weeks' words) the new players could have someone dumber than them.  He allows a lot of the back story you missed out on if your new to be exposited.  Like the discussion of the genophage he has with Garrus on Paloven's moon.

And I like James, he got bit by a zombie head!

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She is very hard to kill. The "she could be dead" excuse is not an excuse. But I won't get into that here.

I'm okay with Thane and Mordin. My canon Shepard never meets Legion.

. You seriously gave legion to Cerberus?

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Aliqaiser wrote...

A Question to all viewers - How many of you prefer Tundra climate and Find it unique or cool than the other climate's present, and... if there is another climate you prefer over Tundra, please state that as well. Thank you.

Just a recent concept, yet under team Discussion, for Future episodes.

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Awesome, as always :happy:

And I love the colour. Very mysterious.

Tundra climate could definitely be interesting.

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Funnily enough, we also got a Shepard dumber than us, too.

As nice as it is that Miranda is the hardest to kill in the Suicide Mission, I think it's more for mechanical reasons than any long-term plans, unfortunately. Though I'd hate to think fan reaction is what tipped the balance with some of the more controversial characters... Wasn't around BSN then, though.

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krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I really doubt Vega's hair was a "prod" for "CoD fanboys."


He IS there for new players. That is not something you can contest. This was stated by Bioware.


You're being misleading.  He wasn't there to attract new players, he was there so (in weeks' words) the new players could have someone dumber than them.  He allows a lot of the back story you missed out on if your new to be exposited.  Like the discussion of the genophage he has with Garrus on Paloven's moon.

And I like James, he got bit by a zombie head!

. Still looks like Soap Mactavish to me

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Steelcan wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Yep this. Such a biased limited roster imo.


Yes, I was definitely sick of more Tali (some say she was only a permanent squad because of fan demand) and even Garrus (as much as I like him, he didn't really do anything plot wise). And Vega, who was there to please possible new players, old players be damned, I'd throw him out the airlock in a heart beat if I could. BioWare was always biased to their favorites characters or in Tali's case, they couldn't deal with the pressure of bunch of crazy fans.

. I think having Tali and Garrus was fine you needed some people who were there for it all.  That said Miranda should have been a squadmate even if only for a few missions.  Vega was meh, his hair it wa just like Soap's not so subtle prod for CoD fanboys


Disagree as i think Tali/Garrus should have been temps. I'd have liked Miranda on squad sure, but the least there should have been was at least one ME2 exclusive on the main squad. Ideally i'd have liked various temps to be available at various stages of the story.

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Steelcan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

She is very hard to kill. The "she could be dead" excuse is not an excuse. But I won't get into that here.

I'm okay with Thane and Mordin. My canon Shepard never meets Legion.

. You seriously gave legion to Cerberus?


Why not? That's fifty thousand credits in my pocket and the Geth are going to die anyway. From a meta gaming perspective it looks like the Geth VI is betraying you on Rannoch.Interesting role playing mechanic. Also it make the Geth's destruction tragic and not silly. Which is more art for arts sake.

**** yeah art.