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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Just listened to David Bowie's "As The World Falls Down." Thank You, David Bowie!


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Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:39 .

[Steelcan]

For when people return to the thread, would Miranda approve of saving the Rachni queen twice

[krukow]

I'm not sure she'd approve of it once.

You don't know about the reaper threat the first time, so really there's no reason to allow them to live. She's pragmatic (right?). Why reintroduce a threat to the galaxy? Especially since she's cerberus at that point and interested in furthering humanity's future.

[dtrain24]

krukow wrote...

I'm not sure she'd approve of it once.

You don't know about the reaper threat the first time, so really there's no reason to allow them to live. She's pragmatic (right?). Why reintroduce a threat to the galaxy? Especially since she's cerberus at that point and interested in furthering humanity's future.

I agree.

[Steelcan]

krukow wrote...

I'm not sure she'd approve of it once.

You don't know about the reaper threat the first time, so really there's no reason to allow them to live. She's pragmatic (right?). Why reintroduce a threat to the galaxy? Especially since she's cerberus at that point and interested in furthering humanity's future.

. (I agree with you)A counter point.  Wouldn't the Rachni make an excellent ally to humanity?

[Steelcan]

dtrain24 wrote...

krukow wrote...

I'm not sure she'd approve of it once.

You don't know about the reaper threat the first time, so really there's no reason to allow them to live. She's pragmatic (right?). Why reintroduce a threat to the galaxy? Especially since she's cerberus at that point and interested in furthering humanity's future.

I agree.

. The reason I say twice is because she wasn't there in ME so it has no bearing, but as a squadmate in ME3. Would she think it a good idea

[krukow]

Steelcan wrote...

krukow wrote...

I'm not sure she'd approve of it once.

You don't know about the reaper threat the first time, so really there's no reason to allow them to live. She's pragmatic (right?). Why reintroduce a threat to the galaxy? Especially since she's cerberus at that point and interested in furthering humanity's future.

. (I agree with you)A counter point.  Wouldn't the Rachni make an excellent ally to humanity?

Well, but why trust them?  They already drove the galaxy to near ruin, why take the chance?  It's not like wiping them out was a galactic mistake, it was neccessary.

I mean, if you could trust them, sure, but there's no reason to think you can. 

I personally always think that killing the queen is pragmatic, and freeing her is altruistic.

Miri's not that altruistic...

[jtav]

I think she'd let them go both times. The queen is the last of her kind, and I think compassion would move her to avoid genocide. And the second, the queen is restrained and helping the Reapers against her will. Rachni trump Arlakh.

[Steelcan]

jtav wrote...

I think she'd let them go both times. The queen is the last of her kind, and I think compassion would move her to avoid genocide. And the second, the queen is restrained and helping the Reapers against her will. Rachni trump Arlakh.

. The Krogan are a known entity.  The Rachni are an unknown and I doubt Miranda would make this decision out of emotion

[krukow]

Steelcan wrote...

jtav wrote...

I think she'd let them go both times. The queen is the last of her kind, and I think compassion would move her to avoid genocide. And the second, the queen is restrained and helping the Reapers against her will. Rachni trump Arlakh.

. The Krogan are a known entity.  The Rachni are an unknown and I doubt Miranda would make this decision out of emotion

I feel we just had a huge debate over this and Jtav was on the other side of the ledger...

[Steelcan]

krukow wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

jtav wrote...

I think she'd let them go both times. The queen is the last of her kind, and I think compassion would move her to avoid genocide. And the second, the queen is restrained and helping the Reapers against her will. Rachni trump Arlakh.

. The Krogan are a known entity.  The Rachni are an unknown and I doubt Miranda would make this decision out of emotion

I feel we just had a huge debate over this and Jtav was on the other side of the ledger...

. If so I missed it

[krukow]

I didn't mean the rachni, I meant Miranda letting emotion cloud her decisions (coughcollectorbasecough).

[Steelcan]

krukow wrote...

I didn't mean the rachni, I meant Miranda letting emotion cloud her decisions (coughcollectorbasecough).

. I didn't say anything about Rachni.  I wasn't there for the collector base debate

[jtav]

Miranda is capable of compassion, and I think she'd feel a certain kinship wuth another creatyre that was also singular. She'd grumble, but I that's her line.

[krukow]

Oh, I just didn't want you thinking Rachni was an old debate.

I'm actually quite curious to see what the regulars think about miri and the spiders...

[dtrain24]

Miri should do an advertisement like this:

Modifié par dtrain24, 06 septembre 2012 - 02:20 .

[AlstairME]

great pic,

[CrutchCricket]

jtav wrote...

I think she'd let them go both times. The queen is the last of her kind, and I think compassion would move her to avoid genocide. And the second, the queen is restrained and helping the Reapers against her will. Rachni trump Arlakh.

I disagree about the second time and don't really see how anyone would consider releasing her then.

Everyone that's spent any amount of time in direct contact with the Reapers ends up indoctrinated and trying to kill you. Seriously. Every damn one. The only exception is Shiala through unique circumstances we can no longer replicate.

There is zero reason therefore to believe that the queen is free of Reaper influence in a cave filled with Reaper tech and actively producing reapified rachni. And given that they're blaming the Rachni Wars on Reaper influence we know she's not magically immune.

I let the queen go the first time. She either blew it, or just had incredibly ****ty luck. But then, who hasn't (especially with these endings amirite?)

PS: She also looked bluer and more glowy the second time around. I thought it was Reaper tech.

[krukow]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Everyone that's spent any amount of time in direct contact with the Reapers ends up indoctrinated and trying to kill you. Seriously. Every damn one.

...I had not considered that.

Good call sir!

[RamilVenoard]

She would approve of taking the rachni queen for study at a cerberus black lab, nut certainly not releasing it on the galaxy.

[Skullheart]

RamilVenoard wrote...

She would approve of taking the rachni queen for study at a cerberus black lab, nut certainly not releasing it on the galaxy.

Nope.

She already now the rachnis are too smart to experiment with them.

[krukow]

Skullheart wrote...

RamilVenoard wrote...

She would approve of taking the rachni queen for study at a cerberus black lab, nut certainly not releasing it on the galaxy.

Nope.

She already now the rachnis are too smart to experiment with them.

corpses yo.

Also, I was so tempted to go artificially bump 10 old thread to knock this one off the front page.  Shape up mirimancers!!

[Taboo]

Guess what! It wasn't her decision. I haven't drunk nearly enough tonight to hear debates about hypotheticals.

I agree with lilitheris about the Alignment change.

Drink drink raise your glass, raise your glass high! Drink to the men who protect you and I!

[krukow]

Are you drinking taboo?

ARE YOU??

[Taboo]

BUT, BUT listen to this. At the end of the day we can't really agree. There is no way to really prove anything. It's like a Fellini-esque circus in here. All we need are a few clowns and a large woman with huge breasts who can sing. And Marcello Mastroianni.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 06 septembre 2012 - 04:08 .