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[MyOpinionSucks]

I've always assumed the 'She requires a better man than me' line meant that while Jacob still has some sort of undefined feelings left for Miranda she's too complicated for him to deal with.

He's always struck me as rather impatient, to be honest. Or maybe direct is the word I want. 'Cerberus is different. When colonies go missing they don't comission a team to write a report to figure out what the hell to do about it, they just go and find out.'

Miranda does have a pretty high wall around her personal life, after all, and Jacob seems like the kind of guy who likes to keep things simple. I could be entirely wrong, of course. I've never played a femshep so my impression of him is based totally on non-romance dialogue with a male Shepard.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Actions, attitude, what you value. My MaleSheps end up inflexible Paragons who romance Tali. I can't get in the mindset to romance Miranda with Shepard, Which is why I created an OC.

I wonder if it would be different with femSheps...

[Caihn]

@Jebel Krong



This is not the original design of Miranda for ME2, but the design used for ME galaxy (not based on Yvonne, due to the reasons explained by the artist on the deviantart page).

I'm glad they used Yvonne's face for ME2.

Modifié par Yannkee, 03 août 2011 - 07:54 .

[Ieldra]

MyOpinionSucks wrote...
I've always assumed the 'She requires a better man than me' line meant that while Jacob still has some sort of undefined feelings left for Miranda she's too complicated for him to deal with.

He's always struck me as rather impatient, to be honest. Or maybe direct is the word I want. 'Cerberus is different. When colonies go missing they don't comission a team to write a report to figure out what the hell to do about it, they just go and find out.'

Miranda does have a pretty high wall around her personal life, after all, and Jacob seems like the kind of guy who likes to keep things simple. I could be entirely wrong, of course. I've never played a femshep so my impression of him is based totally on non-romance dialogue with a male Shepard.

Yes, that's exactly the impression I got. Supported, btw, by him saying "If I knew what makes her tick, I'd be with her....or dead."

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 août 2011 - 07:50 .

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Actions, attitude, what you value. My MaleSheps end up inflexible Paragons who romance Tali. I can't get in the mindset to romance Miranda with Shepard, Which is why I created an OC.

I wonder if it would be different with femSheps...

Why do you think I want her as an s/s option? Certain things would "read" differently and I'd enjoy it more.

[LuxDragon]

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

LuxDragon wrote...

Wow kuddos to this artist. *Jelly*

[Jebel Krong]

jtav wrote...

I'd be willing to wager quite a bit that Lazarus was accomplished with Reaper tech. Compare Renegade Shep and TIM's eyes. Also the fact that s/he can be hacked and that it makes no sense to use death only as a reset button. It also provides a possible reason they were downright desperate to make Miranda sympathetic. As for the time line, EDI is Reaper tech.

likely considering the tie-in books pretty much all focus on the subject. anyone could theoretically be hacked though: your brain is basically a mostly electrical/chemical computer...

[jtav]

And, Ieldra, for what it's worth, my main FemShep's in love with her and I have no problem pairing her with men. Just MaleShep, the way the romance is written. I want to like it.

[Jebel Krong]

[quote]Vertigo_1 wrote...

[quote]jtav wrote...

I'd be willing to wager quite a bit that Lazarus was accomplished with Reaper tech. Compare Renegade Shep and TIM's eyes. Also the fact that s/he can be hacked and that it makes no sense to use death only as a reset button. It also provides a possible reason they were downright desperate to make Miranda sympathetic. As for the time line, EDI is Reaper tech.[/quote]

Partially Reaper Tech according to the Wiki:

"...she reveals that she was in part designed by technology gained from Sovereign's remains and thus, at least partially, based on Reaper technology herself."

[/quote]

Actually i believe she says that some of her cyberwarfare systems are reaper tech (from sovereign). there's no indication that she herself is, or based off of reaper tech. the first (and only decent) tie in book established alliance credentials for ai creation.
[/quote]

[Jebel Krong]

Yannkee wrote...

@Jebel Krong



This is not the original design of Miranda for ME2, but the design used for ME galaxy (not based on Yvonne, due to the reasons explained by the artist on the deviantart page).

I'm glad they used Yvonne's face for ME2.

yes i know but it was the first design of Miranda actually implemented in a game and galaxy was released pre-me2... yvonne me2 Miranda looks a million times better than their original implementaction, rushed scan or not (if it was).

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

This is my rough concept art of Miri that I just drew. I did not use Yvonne's face for it. I'm going to draw the realistic one later on. I just did what I could while looking at other concept art. I'm not sure how long it took. :/ I had to use the webcam, I don't have a scanner.

....Again, I draw very loose. AND I always make the face and head the center of attention.


Note: It is only concept art. I won't be doing a more real looking pic until later.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 09:58 .

[ViSeiRa]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is my rough concept art of Miri that I just drew. I did not use Yvonne's face for it. I'm going to draw the realistic one later on. I just did what I could while looking at other concept art. I'm not sure how long it took. :/ I had to use the webcam, I don't have a scanner.

....Again, I draw very loose. AND I always make the face and head the center of attention.


Note: It is only concept art. I won't be doing a more real looking pic until later.

The face needs some work, though it might be the angle, also why don't you use a tablet (if you have one)? that way you don't have to use a webcam or scan anything.

You've got talent though, try to capitalize on it.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I haven't drawn like THIS in a LONG time. What's funny is that I used to draw manga, or at least tried to.
I have been drawing realism for a while now.

And I don't have a tablet. And again, it's a rough sketch. 100% realism and accuracy was not intended.

....at least for now.

I will be drawing a more real and accurate pic later. With that, I'm going to use a photo of Miri again, and Yvonne for reference, that way I can achieve realism and accuracy. This was practice and rough concept.


I appreciate your criticism though.

I did this quickly.

The fact that I drew it quickly astounds even myself. 

It was quick, it was easy. 



And I know that it wasn't what you expected of me with this, BUT like I said:
I will be drawing a more real and accurate pic later. With that, I'm going to use a photo of Miri again, and Yvonne for reference, that way I can achieve realism and accuracy. This was practice and rough concept.

^ Understand that....

I'm no Picasso or DaVinci, or the designers of Bioware, but hey, this is only a rough concept sketch after all. 100% realism and accuracy was not intended.

It's not perfect and yeah this won't get me a job in BioWare.
And yes, it's not like those in Dviant Art....but I'll make the best of it. 
I'm still debating on whether I should work as a film director, or work in the Video Game business.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 10:55 .

[Lee337]

So what you're saying is thaty realism and accuarcy was not intended? =D

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yes, for now at least. Sorry for bringing my point across too much. I said that I will be drawing a more realistic picture later, and that I will use a pic of Yvonne for reference for the one I will do next.

Understand?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 11:22 .

[SpaceinMind]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is my rough concept art of Miri that I just drew. I did not use Yvonne's face for it. I'm going to draw the realistic one later on. I just did what I could while looking at other concept art. I'm not sure how long it took. :/ I had to use the webcam, I don't have a scanner.

....Again, I draw very loose. AND I always make the face and head the center of attention.


Note: It is only concept art. I won't be doing a more real looking pic until later.

I really like this. Her expression sells it for me, the way she is looking out into the distance. I love your style. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

SpaceinMind wrote...



I really like this. Her expression sells it for me, the way she is looking out into the distance. I love your style. 

Thanks. I will be drawing a more real and accurate pic later. With that, I'm going to use a photo of Miri again, and Yvonne for reference, that way I can achieve realism and accuracy. This was practice and rough concept.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 11:27 .

[Lee337]

If you want to get realistic and original pictures for references it is posible to extract the models from Me2 into modelling programs and pose them from there. You'll still need other references of Yyvonne because of the lack of detail in Mirandas model compared to real photos, but that depends on the level of realism you are going for.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Not photo realism that's for sure. Sort of like my Yvonne pic a few pages back.

I'm not using a computer to draw, it's all hand drawn.

And remember, I don't complete my pics most of the time, like DaVinci. I stop when I feel that it's done, that's my style, and I'm always loose, which is what makes it unique.


And realize that I'm no professional either. I do what I'm capable to do.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 03 août 2011 - 11:39 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

And the hair is going to be a problem as well. I was never good at filling in the shade of dark hair and adding in the light details.

Any advise on that?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 août 2011 - 12:15 .

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

And, Ieldra, for what it's worth, my main FemShep's in love with her and I have no problem pairing her with men. Just MaleShep, the way the romance is written. I want to like it.

Why not write it based on what you think their romance would be like?
Edit: I thought you were talking about writting fanfiction with the two.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 04 août 2011 - 01:24 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

God I'm so damn uneasy about that pic above. Because it doesn't look like Miri and Yvonne. 

I have to make a realistic pic like I did with Yvonne:



The only problem is that I have the photos for reference, but don't have a poster board.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 août 2011 - 01:28 .

[jtav]

In the game, Vertigo. Shouldn't have to headcanon so much that it ceases to be recognizable. I can post what I would have done if it were me, if anyone's interested.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

In the game, Vertigo. Shouldn't have to headcanon so much that it ceases to be recognizable. I can post what I would have done if it were me, if anyone's interested.

Yeah, I edited it once I realised you mean that.
And yes please on the last part of your post!

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 04 août 2011 - 01:50 .