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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Come on guys, we shouldn't bash Synthesis. Not here.

There are some people that like it and we should respect them.

Just like we wouldn't like if they bashed destroy.


I respect their opinion on the endings, and the Synthesis crowd has some of the nicest/well informed people on the forum.

I just think their opinion sucks. B)

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hot_heart wrote...

I guess it would be interesting if you had a Shepard badly injured but he refused Miranda's urging to 'rebuild' him; wanting to keep it all as a reminder or something. But she would understand and love him regardless.


I don’t think anyone who’s suffered significant trauma—loss of limb, paralysis, whatever—would rather hold on to that for some undefined reason than have the damage undone if possible.

I guess it’s a romantic notion…until it’s you.

Edit: I’m not including things like scars that don’t really have functional implications. And even then, there’s a limit…for example, those with significant disfigurement from burns and so on.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

One of my main problems with the endings is that I feel like BioWare went with their big, elaborate "deep" endings just to be big, elaborate and "deep."


I think that's probably true to a significant degree, yeah. It seems likely from the game that the original idea was two endings: control and destroy. With destroy being the basic one, and control being something you accessed via research obtained during the Cerberus missions.

But that probably didn't seem "innovative" enough or something, so they borked it up at the last minute.

Edit: by "original ending," I mean the one they had in mind during most of the game's development, not the Drew K. outline from way back.

Modifié par flemm, 09 septembre 2012 - 05:20 .


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BringBackNihlus wrote...

One of my main problems with the endings is that I feel like BioWare went with their big, elaborate "deep" endings just to be big, elaborate and "deep."

I feel like the original endings would have served my needs beter.

Destroy the Reapers, and hope the galaxy can figure out the dark energy threat with the little time left vs. sacrificing humanity, hoping that the ends justify the means.

It's not anything Earth shattering, but it certainly would not have pissed me off like this covoluted mess we have now.

. I'll be honest.  As much as I didn't like the endings, the original dark energy endings are just as bad

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lillitheris wrote...

I guess it’s a romantic notion…until it’s you.


THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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At least dark energy considerated things from ME2 (the rushed construction of a human reaper, Haestrom's dark energy)

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How about this? I really like it.

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Skullheart wrote...

At least dark energy considerated things from ME2 (the rushed construction of a human reaper, Haestrom's dark energy)

. It did but summing up the endings to a paragon/renegade decision just seems bad.  There should have been numerous ndings depending on you war assets as was advertised by Bioware

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The Dark Energy thing was completely dependent on two optional missions in ME 2. Players who decided to skip recruiting Tali would be screwed.

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Steelcan wrote...

I'll be honest.  As much as I didn't like the endings, the original dark energy endings are just as bad


What about the grimdark energy ending?

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How about this? I really like it.

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I have been trying to figure out what that white fabric there is on her waist, or I guess the blue part. Is that a damn leotard?

Can anyone help me? PLZZZZ?

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lillitheris wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'll be honest.  As much as I didn't like the endings, the original dark energy endings are just as bad


What about the grimdark energy ending?

. I just said what I thought :?

Modifié par Steelcan, 09 septembre 2012 - 05:31 .


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Dawg it's part of her fabulous outfit. It's multicolored. White and blue.

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Keeping the injury as a reminder deliberately is perverse. But I like DestroyShep being stuck with a limp and Miranda now being the one who must affirm she always wants him in her life.

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jtav wrote...

Keeping the injury as a reminder deliberately is perverse. But I like DestroyShep being stuck with a limp and Miranda now being the one who must affirm she always wants him in her life.


You don't mind mental scars more...arty?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Dawg it's part of her fabulous outfit. It's multicolored. White and blue.


I see. Well, thanks dawg.

I might give you a Christian side hug over this.

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lillitheris wrote...
I don’t think anyone who’s suffered significant trauma—loss of limb, paralysis, whatever—would rather hold on to that for some undefined reason than have the damage undone if possible.

I guess it’s a romantic notion…until it’s you.

Edit: I’m not including things like scars that don’t really have functional implications. And even then, there’s a limit…for example, those with significant disfigurement from burns and so on.

Yeah, I wasn't advocating it. Just trying to make some sense out of what jtav said. As in, some sort of reason for Miranda disliking it. But I guess you can't make sense of it.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

I have been trying to figure out what that white fabric there is on her waist, or I guess the blue part. Is that a damn leotard?

Can anyone help me? PLZZZZ?


The XX quotient in this thread is obvious at this point ^_^ That’s a blue, pinstriped, tucked-in vest.

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hot_heart wrote...

lillitheris wrote...
I don’t think anyone who’s suffered significant trauma—loss of limb, paralysis, whatever—would rather hold on to that for some undefined reason than have the damage undone if possible.

I guess it’s a romantic notion…until it’s you.

Edit: I’m not including things like scars that don’t really have functional implications. And even then, there’s a limit…for example, those with significant disfigurement from burns and so on.

Yeah, I wasn't advocating it. Just trying to make some sense out of what jtav said. As in, some sort of reason for Miranda disliking it. But I guess you can't make sense of it.


Think we got our wires crossed. Shepard is so defined by his physical and martial prowess that I'd like to take it away and see what happens. And he is unquestionably the dominant one: the one who reassures Miranda without needing to be reassured. She's the one being hunted, the one who needs his help. I want to see the roles flipped, with her being the one who provides the support. Some sort of mild to moderate physical impairment is ideal as an obstacle.

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lillitheris wrote...
I don’t think anyone who’s suffered significant trauma—loss of limb, paralysis, whatever—would rather hold on to that for some undefined reason than have the damage undone if possible.

I guess it’s a romantic notion…until it’s you.

Edit: I’m not including things like scars that don’t really have functional implications. And even then, there’s a limit…for example, those with significant disfigurement from burns and so on.

Yeah, I wasn't advocating it. Just trying to make some sense out of what jtav said. As in, some sort of reason for Miranda disliking it. But I guess you can't make sense of it.


You have to remember that all of our ideas have spawned out of something that doesn't make any sense to begin with, as in the endings.

They're bound to need explanation.

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Shepard being injured has utterly nothing to do with the endings "making sense" or not...

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David7204 wrote...

Shepard being injured has utterly nothing to do with the endings "making sense" or not...

. Well his survival has to do with it.  It doesn't make much sense for him to survive, but he does

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jtav wrote...
Think we got our wires crossed. Shepard is so defined by his physical and martial prowess that I'd like to take it away and see what happens. And he is unquestionably the dominant one: the one who reassures Miranda without needing to be reassured. She's the one being hunted, the one who needs his help. I want to see the roles flipped, with her being the one who provides the support. Some sort of mild to moderate physical impairment is ideal as an obstacle.

OK, fair enough. Just seems odd to say that it's reasonable for Miranda to hate him. But, you know, it's your 'story' so whatever.

Sorry, I don't mean that to sound rude. I just don't like the word head-canon.

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David7204 wrote...

Shepard being injured has utterly nothing to do with the endings "making sense" or not...


Well, I didn't mean it THAT way.

It's like the "trickle-down effect" economic belief of some people, just twisted into my own logic. When an idea or thought is spawned out of something that doesn't make any sense, there is an inevitability that it will also have to be explained, through it not making sense either or it being misinterpreted (which is this, in this case).

That's just my way of trying to explain what I said, which really didn't make much sense either.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Dawg it's part of her fabulous outfit. It's multicolored. White and blue.



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