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[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...
Thanks! It's good hearing from people. You guys make it all worthwhile.

Gonna try and get some sleep now, so I can be up bright and early tomorrow to work on it.

And get out before the dossier talk, it seems...

Good night

Modifié par flemm, 09 septembre 2012 - 10:35 .

[MisterJB]

Rathias0114 wrote...
I'm confused, what's so wrong with that? Assuming we believe the order you read the dossiers is the order in when they were sent - that means when the book was read is open for interpretation, seeing as she had searched in regards to Shepard and Saren as well in that one - so it could be pre-Lazarus or during. So saying a shift in her writing occured when the possibility that the book could have happened well before her interactions with Shepard.

Or, in my theory, she got the book to begin with to build up a profile for the online dating site to lure in prospective men for her to be with. Most men would be afraid of a strong woman like her, and thus, shy away from someone with her capabilities. Her reading up on the book could have given her information to build up her profile to appeal to a normal man whilst keeping who she truly is hidden.

As for the pregnancy thing, seeing as it's the last of the dossiers - past her interaction with Oriana, means one can probably assume the examination came after her time with Shepard. How is her curiosity on just her limits with what she can or cannot since she is not naturally bred a detterance from her character? 

Why she did either of those things and the timeline of it could be an interestesting discussion but it is, ultimately pointless. What is important is not why Miranda did those things but why the developers put them in the dossier.
Let's see:
"Subscription Cancelled: BioTech Research Quarterly
Vid Book Purchased: "Men are from Omega, Women are from Illium"


Is it a coincidence Miranda cancelled a subscription to a scientific magazine right before she bought a book on relationships or are the developers trying to tell us that her work serves as a replacement for what she truly wants? A husband and children (which is the most common interpretation of the "pregnancy thing")
This seems supported by her actions in the game, in particular this dying line "Marriage, children...things I could never have" (excuse while I wash my keyboard)

That is not to say Miranda wanting a love life or children would, automatically, be a detterance from her character. The way it was presented, however, was. Miranda's concern in ME3 are reserved solely for Oriana and a romanced Shepard. She doesn't deal with Cerberus at all. Her passion for her work, her ambitions are all gone

Therefore, lorewise, Miranda might have bought the book before she met Shepard. The Miranda we fell in love with in ME2 migth have wanted a family even them.
But we consider the dossier important because we view it as an hint the developers intended to have Miranda's content in ME3 be nothing more than a poor rehash of her Loyalty Mission as early as when they were producing "Lair of the Shadow Broker".

[Rathias0114]

I'm not trying to stir up past wounds, just asking for clarification. I understand the points you make and can see why people could get upset about it.

While I agree with most that it was upsetting that she didn't help with the Cerberus base, one could argue that the injuries sustained while fighting Kai Leng could be enough of an argument for her to sit out. However, I will say that it would be enough of an argument for her to sit out PHYSICALLY - but there is no reason she could not have been present on the Normandy during the raid offering strategy and coordination to the team attacking the base. The only sort of counter-argument I can logically think of was that she was trying to get Oriana back to safety that prevented her from being present.

As for her passion for her work and her ambitions being gone, I can't agree with that. Cerberus was her passion - it was her ambitions. She had clear goals in front of her and free reign on how to accomplish them, she even said that. We have yet to see a Miranda without a goal or a mission. When she left Cerberus, all of her efforts went towards protecting her sister. I will say I am upset that it was not even hinted at about what she had been up to since Shepard turned himself in.

I'll be one of the first who says Miranda's spotlight in the game was wasted, and that she could have accomplished so much more. But I'll also admit, the only thing that got me through the whole game these countless number of times, were those special moments when I did get to talk to her. I enjoy them, as small as they might be.

Modifié par Rathias0114, 09 septembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[Steelcan]

Just something I've noticed. The Miranda thread is so much longer than the others. Kaidan is in second at 2500ish pages, we are almost at 3000. Some have barely over a few hundred

Modifié par Steelcan, 09 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .

[Ghost]

 lol!  

[Ghost]

Steelcan wrote...

Just something I've noticed. The Miranda thread is so much longer than the others. Kaidan is in second at 2500ish pages, we are almost at 3000. Some have barely over a few hundred

Thanks to me.

[Taboo]

Complaining about it isn't going to fix the issue. This Miranda is here to stay. Go get an iPhone and get the data pad app. She's out doing plenty of Miranda things during ME3.

Nor is there is a conspiracy here. They attempted to humanize the character and they failed for quite a few people.

And lastly not everyone is blind sided by these things. It merely helped bring our interpretations full circle.

Sometimes you just have to move on.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 09 septembre 2012 - 11:19 .

[David7204]

"the only thing that got me through the whole game"...?

Are you kidding me? This is entertainment, not a prison sentence.

[Taboo]

It's like the Antichrist debates.

There is no answer. At all.

[MisterJB]

Who punched Ashley in the face?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

?

[MisterJB]

Rathias0114 wrote...
As for her passion for her work and her ambitions being gone, I can't agree with that. Cerberus was her passion - it was her ambitions. She had clear goals in front of her and free reign on how to accomplish them, she even said that. We have yet to see a Miranda without a goal or a mission. When she left Cerberus, all of her efforts went towards protecting her sister. I will say I am upset that it was not even hinted at about what she had been up to since Shepard turned himself in.

The fact that all of her efforts went towards protecting her sister is something that I dislike immensely. In ME2, Miranda had ambitions beyond her family which are gone in ME3.

[Steelcan]

MisterJB wrote...

Who punched Ashley in the face?

.  Uhhh

[Taboo]

MisterJB wrote...

Who punched Ashley in the face?

I...uh believe that that is the artist's interpretation of an extreme orgasm. At least that's what I was told.

The answer is in the Ashley thread if you're curious.

I don't understand it either.

[Ghost]

Ghost1017 wrote...

 lol!  

According to Dragon_Claw "The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!"

[MisterJB]

I suppose it's a better excuse than "I ran into a door".

[Taboo]

MisterJB wrote...

The fact that all of her efforts went towards protecting her sister is something that I dislike immensely. In ME2, Miranda had ambitions beyond her family which are gone in ME3.

That's an opinion.

If you'd like more information get an iPhone and look at the Data Pad app. She's out being Miranda. She's "making" people talk.

Actually there may even be a link. Let me look for it.

[Babi_Siha]

Ghost1017 wrote...

 lol!  

*snip*

You really are one annoying troll. Other than that being a creepy pic yo should try posting that on the right thread. At least I know some posters here will just report you, maybe one day it will work.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 09 septembre 2012 - 11:44 .

[Steelcan]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

 lol!  

According to Dragon_Claw "The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!"

. This in the Miranda thread because?

[MisterJB]

I know what you are talking about.
Torturing former contacts in Cerberus only shows that she is still willing to use less than cordial methods to get what she wants which I aprove of and would have liked to see in the game but her efforts are still focused solely on finding Oriana.
I still don't see the same Miranda that said "The advancement and protection of humanity. Nothing more, nothing less."

[Taboo]

There are more messages than these they simply aren't listed.

It's an asspull but at least it attempts to save some face.

[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

That's an opinion.

If you'd like more information get an iPhone and look at the Data Pad app. She's out being Miranda. She's "making" people talk.

Actually there may even be a link. Let me look for it.

I installed the Datapad and the messages aren't all that big deal and some people think since it doesn't really change her in-game content. She's still selfish in ME3.

And the people she was making talk? All because of her concern for Oriana.

[Ghost]

Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

 lol!  

According to Dragon_Claw "The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!"

. This in the Miranda thread because?

Because it shows Miranda needs better treatment and a real romance scene on the normandy.

[Ghost]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

 lol!  

*snip*

You really are one annoying troll. Other than that being a creepy pic yo should try posting that on the right thread. At least I know some posters here will just report you, maybe one day it will work.

[Steelcan]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

 lol!  

According to Dragon_Claw "The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!"

. This in the Miranda thread because?

Because it shows Miranda needs better treatment and a real romance scene on the normandy.

. I think we are all agreed on that