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[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...
Whoever it is, It won't be Miranda simply because of the whole Alliance thing.

They said we will be able to RP against Alliance.

And after what happen at the begining of the game, I doubt "who is the Normandy XO" will be the first concern of the Alliance.
I want my most competent XO back, don't care if the Alliance disagree. And if someone on the Normandy say something, he/she will meet the airlock.

I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd prefer Miranda to be an ally rather than a subordinate. As such, she shouldn't have a formal crew role on the Normandy. I see her as a scientific and tactical advisor (since the intelligence advisor spot will likely be taken by Liara, grrr....*grumble*) who has her own facility on the Normandy, but isn't formally part of the crew.

@TheMarshal:
Someone from Bioware said that we can roleplay against the Alliance. I don't recall who it was, but it wasn't a secondary source. That's an option some of my Shepards will definitely take. My main Shepard will try to be as independent from any major faction as possible.   

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 août 2011 - 07:21 .

[Vertigo_1]

TheMarshal wrote...
Do you have a source?  I would love to RP against the alliance.  RoninShep ftw!

I'm not Yannkee but here:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/68335404373377024
"Shepard had no choice but to work with Cerberus in #ME2. But both #ME2 and #ME3 let you roleplay whether you agreed with that."

[Ieldra]

That's not the original source, Vertigo. It would also not be enough as far as I'm concerned. I'd like to have an influence on the power structure of the post-Reapers galaxy. In some games, I want to empower Cerberus (or in case they turn out irredeemable, what Cerberus used to stand for).

[Vertigo_1]

It's from Hudson himself...how much original does it have to be?
/confused

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 04 août 2011 - 07:38 .

[TheMarshal]

Hmm.. That's not quite what I was hoping for, but at least I'll get to turn my back on Cerberus. Step 1 complete!

[Ieldra]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
It's from Hudson himself...how much original does it have to be?

Someone used the exact phrasing "You can roleplay against the Alliance". Although it's possible it was Casey Hudson and he meant nothing more than was in that tweet.

I wonder how your stance regarding Cerberus and the Alliance will affect Miranda. She may be disenchanted with TIM; but that doesn't mean she thinks any better of the Alliance than before.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 août 2011 - 07:40 .

[Sebby]

I hope we're not forced to pick between Alliance and Cerberus. My Sheps favor them both.

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...
It's from Hudson himself...how much original does it have to be?

Someone used the exact phrasing "You can roleplay against the Alliance". Although it's possible it was Casey Hudson and he meant nothing more than was in that tweet.

Only other mention was the "begrudgingly working for Cerberus in ME2" quote from Xbox World ME3 preview...aside from that I don't remember anyother mention of it.

[enayasoul]

I wonder what friends or friends of friends Miranda has in the Alliance? Besides the obvious Commander Shepard. Something I read on the wiki Web site.

[Jebel Krong]

jtav wrote...

A rescue, a bit of science, personal loyalty from the SR-2 crew. But I don't want what we have now to be our final word on the subject because here's how the scene reads to me: character who thought she could equal the hero is proven wrong and accepts her place in the scheme of things. Add in the romance and it's worse because it comes off as her not deserving the romance until she accepts Shepard's superiority. Sheesh.

oh Jesus.. that's just so NOT how it actually plays i wonder sometimes if people even play the same game i do:-(

[Jebel Krong]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
@jtav: I agree with you. I don't want that Miranda said, or feels like she's inferior to Shepard. Miranda has other qualities and abilities that Shepard doesn't have.
I'd love to see a scene during the Cerberus subplot when Miranda saves Shepard's ass.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

Yeah, I'd like a scene like that too, even wrote about something like that

And de-power shepard - the PC - even more?! No thanks that just reverses the 'inferiority' situation not remedies it...

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 04 août 2011 - 08:20 .

[The Elder King]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
@jtav: I agree with you. I don't want that Miranda said, or feels like she's inferior to Shepard. Miranda has other qualities and abilities that Shepard doesn't have.
I'd love to see a scene during the Cerberus subplot when Miranda saves Shepard's ass.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

Yeah, I'd like a scene like that too, even wrote about something like that

And de-power shepard - the PC - even more?! No thanks that just reverses the 'inferiority' situation not remedies it...

When Shepard was depowered in ME or ME2?

[Jebel Krong]

MegaBadExample wrote...

It's quite obvious that Ashley is going to be the renegade spectre. And Kaidan is going to be the paragon.
So her personality might not of changed that much. I also thought she was a little bit renegade.

it is highly unlikely they will be dichotomised like that - especially as only one can be alive at a time (making any division unbalanced and pointless).

Ash couldn't be a renegade anyway - she's far too much alliance 'by the book' not to re-tarnish the family legacy to play outside the rules.

[Td1984]

enayasoul wrote...

jtav wrote...

MEfan, stop it. There are more characters and romances than Miranda.

I happen to agree.  I like Ashley, Miranda and Liara's romances. They are a favorite of mine.  I never really got into playing the female shepard.  I'm a female who plays a maleshep go figure!

I have both a MaleShep and a FemShep that I plan on carrying through all 3 games. My MaleShep stayed single to wait for Miri. My FemShep probably won't romance anybody until ME3, if at all. I still have yet to do their canon runs. I'll likely wait for ME3 to come out before doing that.

[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
@jtav: I agree with you. I don't want that Miranda said, or feels like she's inferior to Shepard. Miranda has other qualities and abilities that Shepard doesn't have.
I'd love to see a scene during the Cerberus subplot when Miranda saves Shepard's ass.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

Yeah, I'd like a scene like that too, even wrote about something like that

And de-power shepard - the PC - even more?! No thanks that just reverses the 'inferiority' situation not remedies it...

What do you mean - "even more"? Shepard has turned into SuperShep between ME1 and ME2 and constantly impresses me as one being mostly untouched by the things (s)he affects. OK, there's the scene where Miranda pulls Shepard up in the SM, but that's not enough to offset the impression he gives in conversations - that he's standing above things. Only LotSB has mitigated that. I was very glad I could express what I think Shepard would feel - frustration over the attitude of the Council and the Alliance. 

I would love to see that scene where Miranda saves Shepard's ass. 

[MegaBadExample]

Jebel Krong wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

It's quite obvious that Ashley is going to be the renegade spectre. And Kaidan is going to be the paragon.
So her personality might not of changed that much. I also thought she was a little bit renegade.

it is highly unlikely they will be dichotomised like that - especially as only one can be alive at a time (making any division unbalanced and pointless).

Ash couldn't be a renegade anyway - she's far too much alliance 'by the book' not to re-tarnish the family legacy to play outside the rules.

Hardly. She broke the rules and slept with Shepard for one. But she also looses her temper with people sometimes (Like that smuggler behind the boxes on Eden Prime. And others.) While Kaidan on the other hand is the do-right calm kinda guy.

[Jebel Krong]

hhh89 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

And de-power shepard - the PC - even more?! No thanks that just reverses the 'inferiority' situation not remedies it...

When Shepard was depowered in ME or ME2?

beginning of me2, arrival, me3's 'forced trial' all taking power from the player to force a story-point... can do without adding 'being rescued by squaddies to the mix.

@ieldra: not shepard so much as out of the hands of the the player, which a situation like test would necessitate.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 04 août 2011 - 08:44 .

[The Elder King]

Jebel Krong wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

And de-power shepard - the PC - even more?! No thanks that just reverses the 'inferiority' situation not remedies it...

When Shepard was depowered in ME or ME2?

beginning of me2, arrival, me3's 'forced trial' all taking power from the player to force a story-point... can do without adding 'being rescued by squaddies to the mix.

the beginning of me2 was on of the things I like less about the game, but it was (sadly) necessary to the plot. But how he was depowered by that? Because he died?
I don't know what are you saying abour arrival since I don't play it yet, could you tell me?
About the trial, I don't see how it was depowered. Necessary or not, he killed 300k batarians. Even if it's not his fault, the least it could be done is a trial.
And anyway, Shepard isn't god, he seems almost invincible to me in ME2 (a bit less in ME, he was lucky to escape from Saren on Virmire, Saren was kicking his ass). I want a "human" PC, not an invincible god.
I liked during the romance in ME, after Udina took control of the ship, when he seems depressed, because he though he failed. In ME2 it seems he can't fail, he's almost perfect.

[jtav]

ME2 needed it's locker scene badly. And you have Miranda saying that Shepard has what she lacks and that's our romance lead in? Come on.

[MegaBadExample]

jtav wrote...

ME2 needed it's locker scene badly. And you have Miranda saying that Shepard has what she lacks and that's our romance lead in? Come on.

Yeah gotta agree with that one. Probably why I didn't romance anybody in ME2. It didn't feel like a deep romance at all. (To me.)

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 04 août 2011 - 08:53 .

[Caihn]

Miranda's romance is my favorite romance of the Mass Effect series, and not just because Miranda is my favorite character. I find it's the most meaningful romance because of the "promise" scene and the most passionate & sexy because of the engine room scene.

Modifié par Yannkee, 04 août 2011 - 09:06 .

[MegaBadExample]

I find that liara's romance is the most rewarding. Doesn't mean it's my favourite though. Each romance has got something special.

[Chrisusesthis]

[Caihn]

MegaBadExample wrote...

I find that liara's romance is the most rewarding.

It's a good romance, but I still prefer Miranda's one, even with LotSB.

[MegaBadExample]

Yannkee wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

I find that liara's romance is the most rewarding.

It's a good romance, but I still prefer Miranda's one, even with LotSB.

I only say that because she's got a heavy set of plot armour and her own DLC. Liara fans will probably get the most out of the romance in ME3, more so than anyone else.

Liara just can't die! I'd say she'll be there for most of ME3. (If not all.) She's the damn shadow broker, of course her role is going to be freaking huge.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 04 août 2011 - 09:14 .