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[lillitheris]

krukow wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

krukow wrote...

Agreed.  All you said was that she's suicidal if Shep leaves.

Upset ≠ suicidal. But could be crucially important in some cases. Remember the whole thing in ME2 about dealing with stuff to get the squad’s heads in the game?

I'm actually just trolling taboo because his vague postings get annoying sometimes.

Sometimes?

Top and apropos.

rabbitzoro

Modifié par lillitheris, 13 septembre 2012 - 06:29 .

[Lawrence0294]

I actually prefer JeanLucs:

[Taboo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm sorry, but "That's unhealthy" is ONE possible response. Not mine. Also, she never expresses a preference, except with her sister and Shepard. If she doesn't see a problem, I don't see why I should insist it is one. Really, the level of loathing I have for this kind of assumption cannot be expressed in words. It's just the same kind of thinking that says Miranda softening up means "humanizing" her. Staying distanced is just as human, damn it, and it's not better or worse than being the gregarious type. DAMN IT!

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE"RE YELLING ABOUT! LOUD NOISES!

Well I disagree with you. Bioware included it seems. That's kind of why certain aspects of the character didn't carry over into ME3.

Angst esse seele auf.
Fear eats the soul? 

Up with humanization! Down with Kubrickian zombies!



For reference.

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...
I'm sorry, but "That's unhealthy" is ONE possible response. Not mine. Also, she never expresses a preference, except with her sister and Shepard. If she doesn't see a problem, I don't see why I should insist it is one. Really, the level of loathing I have for this kind of assumption cannot be expressed in words. It's just the same kind of thinking that says Miranda softening up means "humanizing" her. Staying distanced is just as human, damn it, and it's not better or worse than being the gregarious type. DAMN IT!

Having a small group of people that one cares deeply about, and being relatively distant otherwise is healthy, certainly at least as healthy as being defined entirely by superficial gregariousness.

*Not* running with the crowd all the time, and being defined constantly by the lowest common denominator, is a good thing, for example, and that's not something one can attain if one is afraid of being seen as a little aloof and distant at times.

Anyway, ultimately, yes, that is part of the issue with how Miranda is written in ME3, as opposed to how Weekes wrote her in 2. Basically, Weekes correctly saw Miranda's "big picture" focus as a good thing, but also something that needed to be tempered by a more personal connection that is undervalued at the start.

Jay's perception was far too simplistic: everything associated with Miranda's professional side was bad in his mind, only the personal connection was good. I say "was" his perception, because that's how he saw it when he wrote the role, one can hope his perception has evolved by now.

Modifié par flemm, 13 septembre 2012 - 07:25 .

[hot_heart]

flemm wrote...
Basically, Weekes correctly saw Miranda's "big picture" focus as a good thing, but also something that needed to be tempered by a more personal connection that is undervalued at the start.

Which links into Mordin and the nephew stuff.

WEEKES IS A HACK.

[Taboo]

flemm wrote...

Anyway, ultimately, yes, that is part of the issue with how Miranda is written in ME3, as opposed to how Weekes wrote her in 2. Basically, Weekes correctly saw Miranda's "big picture" focus as a good thing, but also something that needed to be tempered by a more personal connection that is undervalued at the start.

Yes.

Balance. She's been tempered out by Shepard but she'll never lost the base concept of those ideals.

Which seem to be...missing in ME3.

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...

Which links into Mordin and the nephew stuff.

WEEKES IS A HACK.

He may be a hack. But he's my kind of hack

[Taboo]

hot_heart wrote...

flemm wrote...
Basically, Weekes correctly saw Miranda's "big picture" focus as a good thing, but also something that needed to be tempered by a more personal connection that is undervalued at the start.

Which links into Mordin and the nephew stuff.

WEEKES IS A HACK.

I believe Mordin has oils to help with that. He also has books on creative uses of mass effect fields.

Weekes wrote that didn't he? That stuff is golden.

[lillitheris]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Staying distanced is just as human, damn it, and it's not better or worse than being the gregarious type. DAMN IT!

You’re conflating introversion with complete detachment. One is a perfectly healthy tendency, the other isn’t.

[Taboo]

lillitheris wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Staying distanced is just as human, damn it, and it's not better or worse than being the gregarious type. DAMN IT!

You’re conflating introversion with complete detachment. One is a perfectly healthy tendency, the other isn’t.

This. Thank you.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Staying distanced is just as human, damn it, and it's not better or worse than being the gregarious type. DAMN IT!

You’re conflating introversion with complete detachment. One is a perfectly healthy tendency, the other isn’t.

This. Thank you.

STOP BEING VAGUE!!!!

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Staying distanced is just as human, damn it, and it's not better or worse than being the gregarious type. DAMN IT!

You’re conflating introversion with complete detachment. One is a perfectly healthy tendency, the other isn’t.

This. Thank you.

STOP BEING VAGUE!!!!

Zisa Domnului catre ucenicii sai...Porunca noua dau voua...Domnului sa ne rugam pentru mila, viata, pacea, sanatatea, mantuirea, cercetarea, lasarea si iertarea pacatelor robilor lui Dumnezeu. Inchinatori, miluitori si binefacatori ai sfantului lacasului acestuia. 



I was voicing my support for what lilitheris post.

"This" means I support the post. "Thank You" means thank you.

[krukow]

...I was joking Taboo.

Did you not get that?

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

...I was joking Taboo.

Did you not get that?

Did you read my response?

Most people don't get that I'm joking half the time. And sometimes I'm leading you on intentionally. You do it to.

[krukow]

What do you mean you wish you could leave Miranda on Virmire and save both Ash and Kaidan?

Seriously Taboo, that's just a bit much...

[Taboo]

Now that I think about it the game kind of feels like a Slow Burn.

Like a Slow Burn. 

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 13 septembre 2012 - 07:56 .

[hot_heart]

Great song.

Though, not as good as The Laughing Gnome, obviously.

Modifié par hot_heart, 13 septembre 2012 - 08:04 .

[Lawrence0294]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Now that I think about it the game kind of feels like a Slow Burn.

Like a Slow Burn. 

Should i feel bad for not knowing this ? 

[Taboo]

hot_heart wrote...

Great song.

Though, not as good as The Laughing Gnome, obviously.

I like this human! He understands!

But the early stuff? You like that? I was unsure if anyone did. I've liked what I've heard.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Great song.

Though, not as good as The Laughing Gnome, obviously.

I like this human! He understands!

But the early stuff? You like that? I was unsure if anyone did. I've liked what I've heard.

Miranda likes 2pac now.  Please try to keep up.

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Miranda likes 2pac now.  Please try to keep up.

Don't know about you but I'm Un Chienne Andalusia.

Debaser.

DE-BAS-ER.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Miranda likes 2pac now.  Please try to keep up.

Don't know about you but I'm Un Chienne Andalusia.

Debaser.

DE-BAS-ER.

Nobody knows what that is.

Miranda isn't a hipster.

2Pac appeals to her get stuff doen sensibilities, and she's not into transgender.

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Nobody knows what that is.

Miranda isn't a hipster.

2Pac appeals to her get stuff doen sensibilities, and she's not into transgender.

Dawg u srs? That's a reference to one of the most important films of all time. Un Chienne Andalou.

That translates to "An Andulasian Dog". It was one of the first legitimate surreal films. It was made by Luis Bunuel and Salvador Dali. Perhaps you've seen this image before?



You know, ART.

[hot_heart]

Taboo-XX wrote...
But the early stuff? You like that? I was unsure if anyone did. I've liked what I've heard.

Slow Burn is one of my favourites. And it features the legendary Pete Townshend.

I only know The Laughing Gnome because my mum used to go on about it (she's who got me into Bowie) and I just happened to stumble across the album 'London Boy' (if I recall the name correctly) which featured that song. Bought it for her and she was pretty chuffed about it.

Anyway, this is for Miranda discussion. CEASE!

p.s. I think I actually prefer a couple of Frank Black's earliest solo albums to some Pixies ones.

Modifié par hot_heart, 13 septembre 2012 - 08:23 .

[fiendishchicken]

Miranda isn't into hip hop, or rap or whatever. She listens pretty much to classical exclusively. Shepard will get her into the indie/alternative rock, electronic, and dance scenes though. She won't really dig his tastes in classic rock from over 200 years ago though...

And she doesn't like David Bowie. I'm sorry Taboo.

Heroes is my favorite. Otherwise, I'm not really to big on him. My dad loves him though.