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[Taboo]

In that case Luis breaking the Merc's neck and going Dirty Harry is totally the best solution. Being pragmatic there has no drawbacks.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:29 .

[Steelcan]

katcrave wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Who here let Miranda kill Niket? I did, just looking for additional input

I always do. It's one thing to ask if that's what she really wants to do, but quite another to grab her, and in the middle of a standoff situation on top of that. Shepard's reasoning sucks, too. Two times stupid is too much. Not with my Shepard.

If Shepherd did not physically grab her but rather gave a logical reason for sparring Niket, would you do it? 

. No, let her kill him in my canon mirimancer, others depends

[Steelcan]

Taboo-XX wrote...

There's sometimes a better solution. Her hastiness with Legion may very well end up dooming one race above Rannoch.

Think about it. What's the best solution to the given situation?

. I still side with the Quarians over the geth, one time I made peace but I think killing legions a better story:crying:

[Taboo]

I still recommend trying it with the Geth VI sometime. Don't do the Geth Consensus Mission either. It makes the Geth look misunderstood instead of being sacrifices.

And they'll die regardless. It's interesting to experiment.

And selling Legion to Cerberus gets you fifty thousand credits. But is it worth it?

[Steelcan]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I still recommend trying it with the Geth VI sometime. Don't do the Geth Consensus Mission either. It makes the Geth look misunderstood instead of being sacrifices.

And they'll die regardless. It's interesting to experiment.

And selling Legion to Cerberus gets you fifty thousand credits. But is it worth it?

. I do not like the geth, I especially hate the consensus mission where you are forced to sympathize with the geth

Modifié par Steelcan, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:52 .

[katcrave]

Steelcan wrote...

katcrave wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Who here let Miranda kill Niket? I did, just looking for additional input

I always do. It's one thing to ask if that's what she really wants to do, but quite another to grab her, and in the middle of a standoff situation on top of that. Shepard's reasoning sucks, too. Two times stupid is too much. Not with my Shepard.

If Shepherd did not physically grab her but rather gave a logical reason for sparring Niket, would you do it? 

. No, let her kill him in my canon mirimancer, others depends

Is it because you think he deserves to die? Or that you do not trust him alive with the information of Oriana's whereabouts?

Also, what is it you hate about the geth? I agree about the forced sympathy though. You either sympathize with them, or you don't. Creating a mission specifically designed to influence a player to do what the writers assert as 'right' is annoying.

[krukow]

Steelcan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I still recommend trying it with the Geth VI sometime. Don't do the Geth Consensus Mission either. It makes the Geth look misunderstood instead of being sacrifices.

And they'll die regardless. It's interesting to experiment.

And selling Legion to Cerberus gets you fifty thousand credits. But is it worth it?

. I do not like the geth, I especially hate the consensus mission where you are forced to sympathize with the geth

I took taboo's advice and didn't do the geth consensus mission in my current playthrough.

Then I shot Legion in the face three times.  And screw tali, that unit had no soul.

Now to shoot the tube and get my revenge on the moonbase that tried to kill me...

[ghost9191]

the only history of the geth that should concern ppl is well the 3 games. yeah they may have been wronged but who wouldn't try to wipe them out before they gain sentience . for 3 games they sided with the reapers, even after you destroy ( which i did ) the heretics or rewrite them. they cannot be trusted. Might be more trusting if legion didn't keep lying but whatevers

just my opinion though

but i do the consensus mission for the war assets, and to help the live ships

Modifié par ghost9191, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:56 .

[CrutchCricket]

Niket deserves to die but Miranda is too "close" emotionally to the matter. She hasn't had time to properly detach and go cold like Garrus has for Sidonis. If she pulls that trigger, it'll haunt her. So yes, I stop her every time.
Granted compromising two of my three guns to do it wouldn't be my first choice. But it's not a complete derp. We've all got shields, Miranda has a barrier, and my third is always Kasumi, who I know has my back. She's ready to drop a flashbang if things heat up.

[katcrave]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Niket deserves to die but Miranda is too "close" emotionally to the matter. She hasn't had time to properly detach and go cold like Garrus has for Sidonis. If she pulls that trigger, it'll haunt her. So yes, I stop her every time.
Granted compromising two of my three guns to do it wouldn't be my first choice. But it's not a complete derp. We've all got shields, Miranda has a barrier, and my third is always Kasumi, who I know has my back. She's ready to drop a flashbang if things heat up.

That is similar to my rational. As I see it, its the difference between vengeance and justice. 

Although, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if I would trust Niket alive with the info...I think I may have just persuaded myself to change my canon...

[CrutchCricket]

katcrave wrote...
Although, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if I would trust Niket alive with the info...I think I may have just persuaded myself to change my canon...

Oh don't get me wrong. There's no way Niket is walking out of there alive. The matter of his betrayal will not be ignored. Ideally, my Shepard would love to put one between his eyes the moment it's apparent Miranda is about to shoot.

That carries its own problems though. But more to the point, there's going to be a fight. The asari merc's far too trigger happy. In the ensuing fight, I guarantee a round will find the back of Niket's skull.

As it turns out it's the merc's anyway, so no worries:).

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 18 septembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[wright1978]

Miranda shoots Niket in my games. Really the grab the gun and put everyone's life in danger is too silly for me. Miranda's a big girl and she can handle taking the shot.

[jtav]

I let her shoot him. Cathartic.

As for the geth, they're my favorite race. So I tend to bend over backward for peace. Sorry, Miranda. There are more important things than even you.

[Steelcan]

@Katcrave. I let her handle the situation herself. I didn't want to interfere ith her personal history. As for the geth they are a race of war criminals who try and white wash their history to make them out to be the victims

[enayasoul]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Niket deserves to die but Miranda is too "close" emotionally to the matter. She hasn't had time to properly detach and go cold like Garrus has for Sidonis. If she pulls that trigger, it'll haunt her. So yes, I stop her every time.
Granted compromising two of my three guns to do it wouldn't be my first choice. But it's not a complete derp. We've all got shields, Miranda has a barrier, and my third is always Kasumi, who I know has my back. She's ready to drop a flashbang if things heat up.

Yep!  I stop Miranda from shooting Niket.  I keep Legion despite what Miranda and Jacob wanted.  I go either way with re-writing the geth heretics and destroying them.  Same with Maelon's research. Keep or destroy.  Some really hard choices.  In my first playthrough in ME3... destroyed the geth heretics and saved Maelon's data.  

My other ME2 playthrough I re-wrote the geth heretics and destroy maelons data.  I can't remember what the sacrifice was if I re-wrote the geth... No peace was it?  And destroying maelons data made it harder for Mordin to find a cure.  Is this right?

[CrutchCricket]

Steelcan wrote...
 As for the geth they are a race of war criminals who try and white wash their history to make them out to be the victims

A whole race of war criminals, you don't say?

I don't suppose the fact that they are victims stops you any?

[Steelcan]

[quote]enayasoul wrote...

[quote]CrutchCricket wrote...


Yep!  I stop Miranda from shooting Niket.  I keep Legion despite what Miranda and Jacob wanted.  I go either way with re-writing the geth heretics and destroying them.  Same with Maelon's research. Keep or destroy.  Some really hard choices.  In my first playthrough in ME3... destroyed the geth heretics and saved Maelon's data.  

My other ME2 playthrough I re-wrote the geth heretics and destroy maelons data.  I can't remember what the sacrifice was if I re-wrote the geth... No peace was it?  And destroying maelons data made it harder for Mordin to find a cure.  Is this right?



[/quote]. If you rewrite the geth are a stronger asset and the quarians weaker, peace is also harder to achieve, for maelon's data it determines if Eve live or dies

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I let her shoot him. Cathartic.

As for the geth, they're my favorite race. So I tend to bend over backward for peace. Sorry, Miranda. There are more important things than even you.

What does Miranda have to do with the fate of the geth?

[jtav]

Destroy. Promise broken.

[CrutchCricket]

Steelcan wrote...
If you rewrite the geth are a stronger asset and the quarians weaker, peace is also harder to achieve

I always thought that was bull****. How is making the geth stronger a bad thing?

The fact that the True Geth derped and went back to the Reapers anyway has no bearing on the decision, neither does the fact that the quarians pulled a victory out their ass over the Dyson sphere anyway.

Really this is just more of our choices "mattering".

PS. think you had your quotes messed up there, chief.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 18 septembre 2012 - 04:25 .

[ghost9191]

there was always the chance that the rewriting wouldn't work, even legion says so. so more geth wanted to side with the reapers. whereas destroying them, there were less geth and the quarians were able to do more dmg simply put

[Steelcan]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
 As for the geth they are a race of war criminals who try and white wash their history to make them out to be the victims

A whole race of war criminals, you don't say?

I don't suppose the fact that they are victims stops you any?

. Billions of dead Quarian civilians beg to differ

[Stalker]

Steelcan wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
 As for the geth they are a race of war criminals who try and white wash their history to make them out to be the victims

A whole race of war criminals, you don't say?

I don't suppose the fact that they are victims stops you any?

. Billions of dead Quarian civilians beg to differ

Question is not the number of those who killed more. Question is who started it.

[Steelcan]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
 As for the geth they are a race of war criminals who try and white wash their history to make them out to be the victims

A whole race of war criminals, you don't say?

I don't suppose the fact that they are victims stops you any?

. Billions of dead Quarian civilians beg to differ

Question is not the number of those who killed more. Question is who started it.

. Not every Quarian jumped at the chance to exterminate the geth.  This is shown in the consensus mission.  And billions of civilians, people who did not fight.  BILLIONS

[Sonashi]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Question is not the number of those who killed more. Question is who started it.

I have to disagree. You are turning war into statistics. Even ONE killed person is a tragedy. And question who started what doesn't help the victims.