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[fiendishchicken]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

For some reason I just imagined Miri eating a well-cooked cheeseburger. I wonder why? Am I that tired?

And you still have a food fetish? That's just creep.

I'm going to make you eat a McRib!

Edit: TOPPITY-TOP:

No fast food please. No organic crap either.

[krukow]

fiendishchicken wrote...
No fast food please. No organic crap either.

We can't all live on MREs...

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Off Topic: How ollong did it actually take to rebuild the Citadel and the Mass Relays (In MY Case High EMS Destroy)? Someone from the Tali thread said it took almost 20 years.

And....according to tje Refusal Ending *Cringes*, the Epilogue is the next Cycle, meaning 50,000 Years Later. Is the Normal Epilogue with the Stargazer (Played by Buzz Aldrin) 50,000 Years Later as well?

[krukow]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Off Topic: How ollong did it actually take to rebuild the Citadel and the Mass Relays (In MY Case High EMS Destroy)? Someone from the Tali thread said it took almost 20 years.

And....according to tje Refusal Ending *Cringes*, the Epilogue is the next Cycle, meaning 50,000 Years Later. Is the Normal Epilogue with the Stargazer (Played by Buzz Aldrin) 50,000 Years Later as well?

Nobody's really sure.  Taboo says it's like 10,000 years in the future.

The important part is that it means the ending you selected worked out.  No Leviathans conquering the universe or anything.  Miri and Shep saved the universe.

[dtrain24]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

No fast food please. No organic crap either.

I'll make you a Hungry Man TV dinner, if you'd like.

SALISBURY STEAK DAWG.

I love Hungry Man dinners.  

Beer batted chicken and buffalo chicken anyone?

[katcrave]

Eh, I'm too much of a health nut for those. Well, most of the time

But buffalo chicken does sound delicious...

[David7204]

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

[fiendishchicken]

dtrain24 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

No fast food please. No organic crap either.

I'll make you a Hungry Man TV dinner, if you'd like.

SALISBURY STEAK DAWG.

I love Hungry Man dinners.  

Beer batted chicken and buffalo chicken anyone?

I'll stick to MRE's.

Damn chemical heaters always make the stuff taste like chemicals.

And god help you if you eat the jalapeno cheese spread.

I don't recommend the milkshakes either. In fact, they all suck. #13 is the only good main course.

Don't ever eat the gum or use the TP they give you. It plugs you up to the point you need a plunger to take a ****.

Three lies for the price of one: They're not Meals, They're not Ready, and you can't Eat them.

Or a Massive Rectal Explosion. That's what they are.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 20 septembre 2012 - 04:06 .

[krukow]

You can grow it in tubes now.

It's cheap like spam yo.

[katcrave]

David7204 wrote...

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

What, no space cows?

[dtrain24]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

What, no space cows?

They just jack your creds.

I thought that job belonged to those damn pyjaks.

[fiendishchicken]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

What, no space cows?

They just jack your creds.

Analysis: Defenseless herbivores are no match for guided missiles.

[fiendishchicken]

dtrain24 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

What, no space cows?

They just jack your creds.

I thought that job belonged to those damn pyjaks.

What the hell is a pyjak?

[dtrain24]

fiendishchicken wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

What, no space cows?

They just jack your creds.

I thought that job belonged to those damn pyjaks.

What the hell is a pyjak?

You didn't play the minigame on Tuchanka in ME2?

[fiendishchicken]

dtrain24 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Meat is doubtless rather expensive in space.

What, no space cows?

They just jack your creds.

I thought that job belonged to those damn pyjaks.

What the hell is a pyjak?

You didn't play the minigame on Tuchanka in ME2?

You don't get it. 

[lillitheris]

@flemm: I’ll drop it here, but it’s funny that you argue against something being simplistic, since I’m specifically trying to argue against a simplistic view of Cerberus as a ‘gray’ organization. Yes, simplistic. Just  because it’s ‘gray’ doesn’t make it complex, it just removes the need to reconcile the various aspects. Just say ‘gray’ and all is well. It’s ‘gray’ and therefore one thing can be one way while another is the  complete opposite. That’s simplification, not complexity. It’s label that avoids actually thinking about the complexity.

The view that Miranda’s somehow involved in this organization—but not really, just the nice parts, and she doesn’t really even know about anything else—and that it has no bearing on her character…that is simplistic.

And, flemm, since you offer few specifics, this may or may not apply to you. These are general statements that may or may not apply to your particular headcanon.

flemm wrote...

lillitheris wrote...
I disagree that it doesn’t exist—but either way, the end-result is the same. In order for you to work with just the ME2 Cerberus, you must ignore the ME one, since you’re not willing to reconcile the two.

That isn't true. It isn't necessary to ignore it, anymore than Miranda ignores it within the context of the game. It's just necessary to accept that what we know about Cerberus based on ME1 isn't the whole story.

And we *know* that it isn't the whole story, since what we find out about Cerberus in 2 (and also 3) doesn't fit the ME1 profile.

It does. If it doesn’t fit how you want to see ME2 Cerberus, you may need to ignore significant parts of ME(1) lore, rather than fully reconcile the two.

And that’s perfectly fine, as long as you don’t pretend it to be anything else.

You just have to let go of a certain type of simplistic thinking that wants to see only two possibilities everywhere. "Ignore" and "reconcile" aren't the only two options. One can just recognize that the portrayal of the organisation evolved over time, more than once.

If you combine those evolutions into a working whole, it’s called reconciliation. If you ignore parts…then you’re ignoring parts. So, yes, in this case those two are the only options, with variations within.

You can simply say that, from meta perspective, they are written differently and therefore separated, and that’s fine, too. But that still means you are ignoring parts—just your reason for doing so changes.

This is also in relation to specific statements. Several people claim that the ME3 Cerberus is somehow unprecedented. Several people seem to claim that it’s possible that parts of Cerberus are do-gooders and only parts aren’t (without explaining how this can be). You are claiming that the ME2 Cerberus and the ME one are incompatible.

All those things can be true—if you ignore parts of the lore. Which is fine, but is exactly that.

Modifié par lillitheris, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:55 .

[Dr. Doctor]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I'll stick to MRE's.

Damn chemical heaters always make the stuff taste like chemicals.

And god help you if you eat the jalapeno cheese spread.

I don't recommend the milkshakes either. In fact, they all suck. #13 is the only good main course.

Don't ever eat the gum or use the TP they give you. It plugs you up to the point you need a plunger to take a ****.

Three lies for the price of one: They're not Meals, They're not Ready, and you can't Eat them.

Or a Massive Rectal Explosion. That's what they are.

I have friends who've worked at Natick Labs where they developed MRE's. They worked on making mylar film that won't burst into flames when you heat the ration pack, although the bromine fire-retardant additive could cause that funky flavor when you heat them up.

I dread to think what ME combat rations are like:

Shepard: Sorry about dinner.

Miranda: I've had worse, Krogan blood sausage from a street vendor on Omega comes to mind. (opens a bar wrapped in purple foil) What's this?

Shepard: Hahne-Kedar biotic-issue ration bar. All the calories, vitamins, and minerals Gardner's turkey dinners compressed into one handheld package. You're going to want a lot of water with it, those things are dense enough to break your teeth.

[Lawrence0294]

Discussion on Sodas, seafood, burgers, beer......turkey ?
Damn Yanks.. 

Modifié par kratos0294, 20 septembre 2012 - 07:30 .

[Lawrence0294]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

Discussion on Sodas, seafood, burgers, beer......turkey ?
Damn Yanks.. 

If you'd like, we could talk about fondue, Absinthe and the Geneva Conventions.

That'd be a good start