lillitheris wrote...
The view that Miranda’s somehow involved in this organization—but not really, just the nice parts, and she doesn’t really even know about anything else—and that it has no bearing on her character…that is simplistic.
This is merely a strawman, at least as far as any recent conversation on the topic is concerned.
No one has made this argument. You are arguing against a simplistic idea that no one has asserted.
Interpretations differ, but *everyone* agrees that it is important to Miranda's character, and generally that it should be more important than it ever was in ME3.
lillitheris wrote...
@flemm: I’ll drop it here, but it’s funny that you argue against something being simplistic, since I’m
specifically trying to argue against a simplistic view of Cerberus as a ‘gray’ organization. Yes, simplistic. Just because it’s ‘gray’ doesn’t make it complex, it just removes the need to reconcile the various aspects. Just say ‘gray’ and all is well. It’s ‘gray’ and therefore one thing can be one way while another is the complete
opposite. That’s simplification, not complexity. It’s label that avoids actually thinking about the complexity.
At no point in this discussion have I presented the view you are describing here. What I have said is that the portrayal of the organisation has evolved over time, from a fringe extremist group, to a rogue black ops organisation, to something more like a Star Wars-esque antagonist.
Nothing in there about Cerberus being "morally gray" as a sort of permanent part of its identity.
You are never going to be able to show that that view is invalid or innaccurate because it is probably the most succinct way of describing what actually happened.
Modifié par flemm, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:02 .