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[Taboo]

Steelcan wrote...

. Why Is Miranda's sterility such a big deal to everyone here?

It's a non issue. I'm less interested in that than the other parts of the dossier.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

. Why Is Miranda's sterility such a big deal to everyone here?

It's a non issue. I'm less interested in that than the other parts of the dossier.

It's only a big deal to the people here who treat it like the worst thing since Synthesis (whom I won't name).

It's hardly the worst part of her dossier, however.

Funny, isn't it? How every other dossier has at least 1 enjoyable aspect, while Miranda's is almost universally garbage in it's own fashion.

Modifié par o Ventus, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[Taboo]

Well if you get on Skype later tonight you can talk to me about it. It's about time I talked to you.

I've met everyone else. Even Babs!

[krukow]

o Ventus wrote...It's only a big deal to the people here who treat it like the worst thing since Synthesis (whom I won't name).

It's hardly the worst part of her dossier, however.

Funny, isn't it? How every other dossier has at least 1 enjoyable aspect, while Miranda's is almost universally garbage in it's own fashion.

1.  There has never been anything as bad as synthesis.  The black death was better than synthesis.

2.  That's a good point I never even noticed.  Hate or love Miranda's dossier, there isn't anything in there that's fun (unless the whole barefoot housewives monthly subscription is your idea of fun).  I mean, Jack gets to write poetry and Jake does Patrick Bateman level sit-ups.

Miranda just has a sad...

[hot_heart]

The chat with Oriana is 'fun'.

*ducks out*

[Lawrence0294]

hot_heart wrote...

The chat with Oriana is 'fun'.

*ducks out*

Go back to your writing 

[o Ventus]

hot_heart wrote...

The chat with Oriana is 'fun'.

*ducks out*

Burn the witch!

[Lawrence0294]

Modifié par kratos0294, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:30 .

[dtrain24]

o Ventus wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

The chat with Oriana is 'fun'.

*ducks out*

Burn the witch!

Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

[Lawrence0294]

dtrain24 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

The chat with Oriana is 'fun'.

*ducks out*

Burn the witch!

Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

Coke and Pepsi are bad for you.

You should drink.......water 

[krukow]

dtrain24 wrote...
Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

You and BBN just need to get it over with and makeout.

You're worse than Jack and Miranda...

[dtrain24]

kratos0294 wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

The chat with Oriana is 'fun'.

*ducks out*

Burn the witch!

Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

Coke and Pepsi are bad for you.

You should drink.......water 

Oh, I do. 

But a fella can't treat himself now and then? 

[dtrain24]

krukow wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...
Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

You and BBN just need to get it over with and makeout.

You're worse than Jack and Miranda...

Actually it was Katcrave's comment that stuck. haha

[krukow]

dtrain24 wrote...

krukow wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...
Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

You and BBN just need to get it over with and makeout.

You're worse than Jack and Miranda...

Actually it was Katcrave's comment that stuck. haha

(checks notes)

Okay, you 3 are worse than Miranda, Jack, and Tali.

...that still works.



I'll just see my way out...

[Ieldra]

Steelcan wrote...
Why Is Miranda's sterility such a big deal to everyone here?

(1) Because it makes her genetic engineering look bad. By suggestion.
(2) Because it makes no f*cking sense given the level of medical technology in the ME universe.
(3) Because it's one step into making her care only about family, removing her ideals about advancing humanity from her.

Edit:
I wish the Synthesis hate wouldn't intrude here. Can we *please* stick to Miranda? To think I used to feel rather at home here.... Perhaps it's time to  leave BSN. I feel the motivation to put up with the crap leaving me.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[wright1978]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Why Is Miranda's sterility such a big deal to everyone here?

(1) Because it makes her genetic engineering look bad. By suggestion.
(2) Because it makes no f*cking sense given the level of medical technology in the ME universe.
(3) Because it's one step into making her care only about family, removing her ideals about advancing humanity from her.

Yeah i don't like the implied genetic engineering is bad by suggestion vibe.
The condition is silly and as Ieldra points out should be curable.
As a plot point as of itself i don't really care as there are so many ways round her infertility Genetic engineering/surrogacy etc that Miranda will have a child if she wants one.

[katcrave]

dtrain24 wrote...

krukow wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...
Well I said yesterday I like to drink both coke and pepsi. You should have seen the reactions to THAT. haha

You and BBN just need to get it over with and makeout.

You're worse than Jack and Miranda...

Actually it was Katcrave's comment that stuck. haha

You are a radical person.

[krukow]

wright1978 wrote...

Yeah i don't like the implied genetic engineering is bad by suggestion vibe.
The condition is silly and as Ieldra points out should be curable.
As a plot point as of itself i don't really care as there are so many ways round her infertility Genetic engineering/surrogacy etc that Miranda will have a child if she wants one.

I think you all assume too much here.  Medical science is so far beyond where it was 1,000 years ago that it would seem like magic to someone from then. 

We still have diseases we can't cure.

It's perfectly rational to think there are things we can't do in the future.

[katcrave]

wright1978 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Why Is Miranda's sterility such a big deal to everyone here?

(1) Because it makes her genetic engineering look bad. By suggestion.
(2) Because it makes no f*cking sense given the level of medical technology in the ME universe.
(3) Because it's one step into making her care only about family, removing her ideals about advancing humanity from her.

Yeah i don't like the implied genetic engineering is bad by suggestion vibe.
The condition is silly and as Ieldra points out should be curable.
As a plot point as of itself i don't really care as there are so many ways round her infertility Genetic engineering/surrogacy etc that Miranda will have a child if she wants one.

I completely agree. Its just another reason why I usually ignore her dossier. I don't have a problem with her caring about family per se, but not at the expense of her ideals/professionalism.

[katcrave]

krukow wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Yeah i don't like the implied genetic engineering is bad by suggestion vibe.
The condition is silly and as Ieldra points out should be curable.
As a plot point as of itself i don't really care as there are so many ways round her infertility Genetic engineering/surrogacy etc that Miranda will have a child if she wants one.

I think you all assume too much here.  Medical science is so far beyond where it was 1,000 years ago that it would seem like magic to someone from then. 

We still have diseases we can't cure.

It's perfectly rational to think there are things we can't do in the future.

Yes but infertility is something that, effectively speaking, we can cure today (surrogacy, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilisation etc). Or at least make it a non-issue. Given the technological advancements made in the ME series, having someone affected by such a problem doesn't make sense to me.

Modifié par katcrave, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:50 .

[Steelcan]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Why Is Miranda's sterility such a big deal to everyone here?

(1) Because it makes her genetic engineering look bad. By suggestion.
(2) Because it makes no f*cking sense given the level of medical technology in the ME universe.
(3) Because it's one step into making her care only about family, removing her ideals about advancing humanity from her.

Edit:
I wish the Synthesis hate wouldn't intrude here. Can we *please* stick to Miranda? To think I used to feel rather at home here.... Perhaps it's time to  leave BSN. I feel the motivation to put up with the crap leaving me.

. Differing opinions are part of life.  You like synthesis. I like destroy.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion

[krukow]

katcrave wrote...

krukow wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Yeah i don't like the implied genetic engineering is bad by suggestion vibe.
The condition is silly and as Ieldra points out should be curable.
As a plot point as of itself i don't really care as there are so many ways round her infertility Genetic engineering/surrogacy etc that Miranda will have a child if she wants one.

I think you all assume too much here.  Medical science is so far beyond where it was 1,000 years ago that it would seem like magic to someone from then. 

We still have diseases we can't cure.

It's perfectly rational to think there are things we can't do in the future.

Yes but infertility is something that, effectively speaking, we can cure today (surrogacy, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilisation etc). Or at least make it a non-issue. Given the technological advancements made in the ME series, having someone affected by such a problem doesn't make sense to me.

Infertility is not something we can totally cure, though it is rare.

And in the future, the conditions may have changed.  She could be exposed to things that we aren't exposed to living on earth.  Or the human genome could have evolved to allow different defects.

Hell, we can't even heal the scars on Garrus' face.

[o Ventus]

krukow wrote...
 
Or the human genome could have evolved to allow different defects.

One hell of an evolution if it happend in only ~160 years.

[krukow]

o Ventus wrote...

krukow wrote...
 
Or the human genome could have evolved to allow different defects.

One hell of an evolution if it happend in only ~160 years.

Punctuated Equilibrium for teh winz yo!

Seriously though, we're traveling around in space using space magic.  Who's to say what side effects eezo caused. 

[katcrave]

krukow wrote...

katcrave wrote...

krukow wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Yeah i don't like the implied genetic engineering is bad by suggestion vibe.
The condition is silly and as Ieldra points out should be curable.
As a plot point as of itself i don't really care as there are so many ways round her infertility Genetic engineering/surrogacy etc that Miranda will have a child if she wants one.

I think you all assume too much here.  Medical science is so far beyond where it was 1,000 years ago that it would seem like magic to someone from then. 

We still have diseases we can't cure.

It's perfectly rational to think there are things we can't do in the future.

Yes but infertility is something that, effectively speaking, we can cure today (surrogacy, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilisation etc). Or at least make it a non-issue. Given the technological advancements made in the ME series, having someone affected by such a problem doesn't make sense to me.

Infertility is not something we can totally cure, though it is rare.

And in the future, the conditions may have changed.  She could be exposed to things that we aren't exposed to living on earth.  Or the human genome could have evolved to allow different defects.

Hell, we can't even heal the scars on Garrus' face.

Well it depends on why Miranda is infertile. As long as her eggs are viable (god that sounds weird), her having a child is completely possible. But if the problem is her inability to produce them, then I guess I could see how it might be more of an issue. I'm not sure if we could create an ovum...maybe. But it would be a significantly more difficult task.

Hey, Chakwa's totally offered to heal Garrus's scars in ME3. He thinks they're sexy! He's right