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[Steelcan]

I romanced her in ME but only because Ashley was............. Unavailable. Mirimance in ME2, obviously, and then in ME3 it was like Liara forgot that I broke up with her in ME2 LotSB and was now stopping at nothing to try and get me back. And she's the worst information broker ever, but that is whole other argument

[RamilVenoard]

Btw, when Liara comes knocking while Shep's in the bathroom I really wanted my Shep to shout "I'm taking a ****, Liara. Whats up?" lolol

[krukow]

BringBackNihlus wrote...
Actually, she wasn't my first.

Ashley was.

oooooh

I haz a sad now

okay, miri topic to get it back on track.

When the galaxy rebuilds, will she be the third human spectre?

I say yes.  Spectres just have to much power, and assets, for her to pass on it when she could do so much with the position...

[Steelcan]

Miranda as a spectre.... Unlikely mostly because I don't see her responding well under council authority. I think shed rather do her own organization.

[katcrave]

Eh, I don't think Miranda would want to be a Specter. Sure, there is a lot of authority afforded the position, but Miranda isn't the type to play by the rules anyway... she'll do what she thinks is right with or without the Councils approval.

[krukow]

I think everyone would get over old wounds pretty quickly.

They just won an unwinnable war. She was (a small compared to ashley) part of that. She'd be a hero just like everyone else.

I think the galaxy would recognize Mrs. Lawson's abilities and respond accordingly.

And why would she balk at answering to the council? She's never been a lone wolf till it was forced on her. She used to answer to TIM just fine...

[Steelcan]

ME4 play as the third human spectre. James Vega or Jacob Taylor, see choices

[Steelcan]

krukow wrote...

I think everyone would get over old wounds pretty quickly.

They just won an unwinnable war. She was (a small compared to ashley) part of that. She'd be a hero just like everyone else.

I think the galaxy would recognize Mrs. Lawson's abilities and respond accordingly.

And why would she balk at answering to the council? She's never been a lone wolf till it was forced on her. She used to answer to TIM just fine...

. Yes TIM, not idiotic bureaucrats

[Steelcan]

Well I'm out, thread was really busy today

[katcrave]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

Eh, I don't think Miranda would want to be a Specter. Sure, there is a lot of authority afforded the position, but Miranda isn't the type to play by the rules anyway... she'll do what she thinks is right with or without the Councils approval.

That's the point of the Spectre, though; given free reign to accomplish the task at hand by any means while the Council turns the figurative blind eye. Look at what they did to Saren after the fiasco with Anderson.

Nothing is what they did. They only get in your way if you go rogue.

Edit: Of course, I didn't take into account that Saren had that covered up and they would have never taken Anderson's word over a Spectre, but my point still remains about the authority a Spectre has.

In ME1 Shepherd reports to them after every major mission (although you can hang up on them ) And they even ground him towards the end. They turn a blind eye to the methods but only so long as it furthers their political goals. They are far too bureaucratical imo. But, honestly, that's mostly based on ME1. The Council in ME2/3 seems to be a lot more laissez-faire anyway...

I could just be harboring a grudge because "Ah yes, Reapers"

[RamilVenoard]

katcrave wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

katcrave wrote...

Eh, I don't think Miranda would want to be a Specter. Sure, there is a lot of authority afforded the position, but Miranda isn't the type to play by the rules anyway... she'll do what she thinks is right with or without the Councils approval.

That's the point of the Spectre, though; given free reign to accomplish the task at hand by any means while the Council turns the figurative blind eye. Look at what they did to Saren after the fiasco with Anderson.

Nothing is what they did. They only get in your way if you go rogue.

Edit: Of course, I didn't take into account that Saren had that covered up and they would have never taken Anderson's word over a Spectre, but my point still remains about the authority a Spectre has.

In ME1 Shepherd reports to them after every major mission (although you can hang up on them ) And they even ground him towards the end. They turn a blind eye to the methods but only so long as it furthers their political goals. They are far too bureaucratical imo. But, honestly, that's mostly based on ME1. The Council in ME2/3 seems to be a lot more laissez-faire anyway...

I could just be harboring a grudge because "Ah yes, Reapers"

Not so much laissez-faire as it is the fact that there's nothing they can do to stop him, so might as well support him. Last time they grounded him, he took off anyway... and anyone who comes back from the dead is to be handled with care, I should think.

[dtrain24]

katcrave wrote...

Eh, I don't think Miranda would want to be a Specter. Sure, there is a lot of authority afforded the position, but Miranda isn't the type to play by the rules anyway... she'll do what she thinks is right with or without the Councils approval.

Ssshhhh! We had a whole debate about that here once! Don't start the madness again. 

She'd be a good spectre though, but the question is if she'd want to be.  Maybe if she's bored...

[katcrave]

dtrain24 wrote...

katcrave wrote...

Eh, I don't think Miranda would want to be a Specter. Sure, there is a lot of authority afforded the position, but Miranda isn't the type to play by the rules anyway... she'll do what she thinks is right with or without the Councils approval.

Ssshhhh! We had a whole debate about that here once! Don't start the madness again. 

She'd be a good spectre though, but the question is if she'd want to be.  Maybe if she's bored...

Lolz, fair enough.
She can be a Specter. It doesnt seem like a betrayal anyway.

[Dr. Doctor]

 If they were to do another ME game I'd like to play from a different perspective. There's the Terminus which is the Firefly-like wild west of the galaxy a story there could be neat. Playing as a Cerberus agent in Infiltrator was interesting, maybe there's more to be told there. 

The thing is after everything that happened with ME3 I'd think that the best bet would be to put the franchise on the shelf for awhile and create something different (i.e a new Jade Empire game)

[Ieldra]

krukow wrote...

Steelcan wrote... .The worst part of ME3, Liara T'soni

Star child is not amused by this statement.

That's a recommendation.....right?

[Jebel Krong]

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[Sable Rhapsody]

RamilVenoard wrote...
Not so much laissez-faire as it is the fact that there's nothing they can do to stop him, so might as well support him. Last time they grounded him, he took off anyway... and anyone who comes back from the dead is to be handled with care, I should think.

This is very true.  Shep probably gets away with a lot more in ME2/ME3 than your average Spectre or Alliance soldier should, and we shouldn't take Shep's experience as indicative of what being a Spectre is "usually" like.  Are you really going to try and rules lawyer someone who's saved trillions of lives multiple times over, come back from the dead, and personally murdered Reapers?

[Jebel Krong]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

RamilVenoard wrote...
Not so much laissez-faire as it is the fact that there's nothing they can do to stop him, so might as well support him. Last time they grounded him, he took off anyway... and anyone who comes back from the dead is to be handled with care, I should think.

This is very true.  Shep probably gets away with a lot more in ME2/ME3 than your average Spectre or Alliance soldier should, and we shouldn't take Shep's experience as indicative of what being a Spectre is "usually" like.  Are you really going to try and rules lawyer someone who's saved trillions of lives multiple times over, come back from the dead, and personally murdered Reapers?

out of the 4 spectres we see, only jondum bau seems to be a "plays by the rules" type: shepard, saren and vasir all pretty much meet the "ends justify any means" philosophy of doing things. which is awesome.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Jebel Krong wrote...
out of the 4 spectres we see, only jondum bau seems to be a "plays by the rules" type: shepard, saren and vasir all pretty much meet the "ends justify any means" philosophy of doing things. which is awesome.

I really liked Bau.  I wish we could've had more of him in game.  

We only really get a look inside the Spectres (beyond Shep) in Mass Effect: Revelation and that's through Saren's eyes.  And he behaves in Revelation like he really answers to no one, like his actions have no repercussions with the Council.  Part of that might just be Saren being Saren, but it might also be that long-serving Spectres get a lot more free reign, and the Council sort of lets them do their thing.  Hard to say, considering how everything goes belly up in ME3.

[Lawrence0294]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

RamilVenoard wrote...
Not so much laissez-faire as it is the fact that there's nothing they can do to stop him, so might as well support him. Last time they grounded him, he took off anyway... and anyone who comes back from the dead is to be handled with care, I should think.

This is very true.  Shep probably gets away with a lot more in ME2/ME3 than your average Spectre or Alliance soldier should, and we shouldn't take Shep's experience as indicative of what being a Spectre is "usually" like.  Are you really going to try and rules lawyer someone who's saved trillions of lives multiple times over, come back from the dead, and personally murdered Reapers?

out of the 4 spectres we see, only jondum bau seems to be a "plays by the rules" type: shepard, saren and vasir all pretty much meet the "ends justify any means" philosophy of doing things. which is awesome.

Don't forget Nihlus. He seems to be by the book.