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So in short we don't like SuperMac's obvious bias and we don't like the dossier on her by the shadow broker

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Skullheart wrote...

luis, just ignore our domestic troll.

Yeah ignore skull.

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Steelcan wrote...

So in short we don't like SuperMac's obvious bias and we don't like the dossier on her by the shadow broker


Pretty much.

He's not suited to be ME's main writer. His style just doesn't work when you're the head writer. He's terrible at writing for emotion. In context (the beginning) it looks bad in the story. 

And he puts way to much emphasis on mon calamari over here.

Shepard and all the humans lose Earth. Garrus loses Palaven. Javik has lost everything.

Yet everyone has to be sad for Liara because her world was lost. She just needs to learn to get used to death.

It happens. Those left gotta keep fighting.

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I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Image IPB
<3:wub:



Oh look its wannabe Ash.


Actually it's the other way around. Ash is the wannabe Miranda, especially in ME3. A Biotic and Tech Specialist with Military Combat Training is greater than a mere soldier who reads poetry.


Too bad Miri has no *breath* experience because she's *breath* too busy banging everyone.

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So, we all doubt about super mac writing skills?

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Steelcan wrote...

So in short we don't like SuperMac's obvious bias and we don't like the dossier on her by the shadow broker

The exact reason people dislike it varies between individuals, but I honestly haven't seen anyone who said that it's good.

Reading through the content of the other characters, I even get the vibe that it was written by someone who didn't like her: Thane has hope for a cure, females dream about Jacob's workout, Jack writes poetry... and Miranda has sex with a random guy,  is infertile, and cancels a scientific maganzine for fashion.

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So, we all doubt about super mac writing skills?

. For me it's mostly because he really wants us to love Liara, I hate Liara<_<

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Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy


Funny, Javik is the only suqdmate I can tolerate in ME3.

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fiendishchicken wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

So in short we don't like SuperMac's obvious bias and we don't like the dossier on her by the shadow broker


Pretty much.

He's not suited to be ME's main writer. His style just doesn't work when you're the head writer. He's terrible at writing for emotion. In context (the beginning) it looks bad in the story. 

And he puts way to much emphasis on mon calamari over here.

Shepard and all the humans lose Earth. Garrus loses Palaven. Javik has lost everything.

Yet everyone has to be sad for Liara because her world was lost. She just needs to learn to get used to death.

It happens. Those left gotta keep fighting.


He's a great writer.

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Mr Massakka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

So in short we don't like SuperMac's obvious bias and we don't like the dossier on her by the shadow broker

The exact reason people dislike it varies between individuals, but I honestly haven't seen anyone who said that it's good.

Reading through the content of the other characters, I even get the vibe that it was written by someone who didn't like her: Thane has hope for a cure, females dream about Jacob's workout, Jack writes poetry... and Miranda has sex with a random guy,  is infertile, and cancels a scientific maganzine for fashion.

. I actually don't have a big problem with her dossier.  Her infertility is stupidly explained, but it doesn't really bother me, neither do her liaisons, just not a big deal for me

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Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy


Funny, Javik is the only suqdmate I can tolerate in ME3.

. I like him as a character, he's just a a**hole as well.

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Steelcan wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy


Funny, Javik is the only suqdmate I can tolerate in ME3.

. I like him as a character, he's just a a**hole as well.


He's a troll just like skullheart.

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Steelcan wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy


Funny, Javik is the only suqdmate I can tolerate in ME3.

. I like him as a character, he's just a a**hole as well.


The only interesting squadmate from ME3 tbh. And he's the only with enough guts to question Shepard's decisions.

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Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy

Funny, Javik is the only suqdmate I can tolerate in ME3.

. I like him as a character, he's just a a**hole as well.


The only interesting squadmate from ME3 tbh. And he's the only with enough guts to question Shepard's decisions.

. I loved his dialogue after the Rachni mission, and after the genophage is cured, they both summarize his extreme Machiavellianism

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Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy


Funny, Javik is the only suqdmate I can tolerate in ME3.

. I like him as a character, he's just a a**hole as well.


The only interesting squadmate from ME3 tbh. And he's the only with enough guts to question Shepard's decisions.


Mordin. James. Ash.

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If you are going to troll, do it well.....

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They have questioned Shepard.

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They have questioned Shepard.

. When does either James or Mordin questioned Shpard?  And the only reason Ashley does is because she is an idiot

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Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

They have questioned Shepard.

. When does either James or Mordin questioned Shpard?  And the only reason Ashley does is because she is an idiot


James-Right after you leave Earth,shuttle bay, etc.
Mordin-Alot in ME2 and ME3 even the writer said it.

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Ghost1017 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

They have questioned Shepard.

. When does either James or Mordin questioned Shpard?  And the only reason Ashley does is because she is an idiot


James-Right after you leave Earth,shuttle bay, etc.
Mordin-Alot in ME2 and ME3 even the writer said it.

. That barely counts for James.  And no instances one to mind for Mordin.  Besides all sm question your decision to keep the collector  base but that doesn't mean they consistently question your decisions like Javik does

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Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy


He has it right. In a war such as this, you can't afford to have mercy or pity or compassion. It comes down to survival.

If a million must die so that 2 million can live, I'm good with it. 

If a billion must die so a thousand can live, I'm good with it.

Javik knows the score. Shepard does too. And his reasons for disliking Cerberus are much better than any other crewmember. He won't tolerate any other enemy beside the Reaper, simple as that.

And he's not looking to be sympathetic, he's looking to kill Reapers.

He has the most correct opinions when it comes to war. Everyone else is brutally naive. Garrus knows it too, but his goody two shoes approach gets old.

My Shepard is the same, or as much as BW will let me make him the same in ME3.

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Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

They have questioned Shepard.

. When does either James or Mordin questioned Shpard?  And the only reason Ashley does is because she is an idiot


James-Right after you leave Earth,shuttle bay, etc.
Mordin-Alot in ME2 and ME3 even the writer said it.

. That barely counts for James.  And no instances one to mind for Mordin.  Besides all sm question your decision to keep the collector  base but that doesn't mean they consistently question your decisions like Javik does


Weekes said it. Its on YouTube.

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Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

They have questioned Shepard.

. When does either James or Mordin questioned Shpard?  And the only reason Ashley does is because she is an idiot


James-Right after you leave Earth,shuttle bay, etc.
Mordin-Alot in ME2 and ME3 even the writer said it.

. That barely counts for James.  And no instances one to mind for Mordin.  Besides all sm question your decision to keep the collector  base but that doesn't mean they consistently question your decisions like Javik does


James is pissed about leaving the fight. You can hardly blame him, even though it's pointless and futile to fight for the time being. Mordin is more of an ethical/moral questioning. What is truely right? His story is incredibly well written. 

James also doesn't seem to be too stupid in regards of the way things go. He isn't a blind alliance ****sucker like Ashley is. 

Ashley, to me, is perhaps one of the most racist characters out there. She only likes one faction, the alliance, and probably wouldn't mind seeing every other race burn. Plus her forced militarism is something I take as personally insulting. 

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fiendishchicken wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I've always said Liara was an annoying whelp. The Thessia mission made me hate Liara.  But Javik is kind of a douche, not much sympathy for him.  He's an awesome squadmate but he's not a sympathetic guy

He has it right. In a war such as this, you can't afford to have mercy or pity or compassion. It comes down to survival.
If a million must die so that 2 million can live, I'm good with it. 
If a billion must die so a thousand can live, I'm good with it.
Javik knows the score. Shepard does too. And his reasons for disliking Cerberus are much better than any other crewmember. He won't tolerate any other enemy beside the Reaper, simple as that.
And he's not looking to be sympathetic, he's looking to kill Reapers.

He has the most correct opinions when it comes to war. Everyone else is brutally naive. Garrus knows it too, but his goody two shoes approach gets old.
My Shepard is the same, or as much as BW will let me make him the same in ME3.

. Agreed to a certain degree.  I think that curing the genophage is better for the war than not.  Rachni is a toss up.  And he does not want the geth to aid the war effort.  He makes Machiavelli look squeamish but sometimes he is wrong about what is best for the war effort.  That said he knows the score better than anyone else.