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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#81977
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[Relevant Miranda discussion]

 

 

Well, can't think of anything for the moment. But on a related note, I still haven't been able to fix Henry Lawson's appearance for myself. By "fix" I mean come up with a plausible reason for:

  1. The weakling we see not being Lawson but a clone/robot/whatever, with the true encounter happening later and
  2. Miranda not saying anything about it.

The other parameters are that it needs to work itself into the story without just outright denying the scene happened. Any ideas?



#81978
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#81979
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That wallet though. I dig it. I need a new wallet anyway.



#81980
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Nah, I just got a $600 Gucci Wallet for Christmas. I'm good.



#81981
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All this time and I never realised this: more than twohundred years into the future and Miranda still uses the imperial system: 'a hundred yards'.



#81982
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All this time and I never realised this: more than twohundred years into the future and Miranda still uses the imperial system: 'a hundred yards'.


She was probably mocking Shepard, thinking it was the only thing he would understand.

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All this time and I never realised this: more than twohundred years into the future and Miranda still uses the imperial system: 'a hundred yards'.

So?



#81984
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So?

Well...it's not very logical for her to use the Imperial system. She is from Australia where the Metric system is used, is a scientist, a field where the Metric system is the norm, and conscedering the Alliance is a groupe of nations and is supposed to represent humanity, makes far more sense that Metric would be used as Imperial is used by only two countries around the world. ( I of course know that all this is mega nitpicking =p)



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Well...it's not very logical for her to use the Imperial system. She is from Australia where the Metric system is used, is a scientist, a field where the Metric system is the norm, and conscedering the Alliance is a groupe of nations and is supposed to represent humanity, makes far more sense that Metric would be used as Imperial is used by only two countries around the world. ( I of course know that all this is mega nitpicking =p)

Exactly. So I say it again. So?

 

And it's never actually stated anywhere or by anyone that Miranda is from Australia, isn't it?



#81986
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Exactly. So I say it again. So?

 

And it's never actually stated anywhere or by anyone that Miranda is from Australia, isn't it?

So...well it's just bizarre that she would use that.

 

Well, here it mentioned she was born on earth. Though it doesn't necessarily mean she was born in Australia, due to her and Henry's accent, I thought it was enough to assume she was Australian.



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Yeah, no doubt, she's Australian.

#81988
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....Of all the things in the world to point out, you nitpik on the fact that Miri said yards??

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....Of all the things in the world to point out, you nitpik on the fact that Miri said yards??

Mate, it's been three years, I'm pretty sure we've nitpicked all there is to nitpick =p
It's just a little error pointed out.

#81990
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I personally have no complaints with Mass Effect, except for Kaidan. IMO, he's a boring character.

#81991
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It was probably one of those things the devs thought would add flavor or authenticity but ended up being completely dumb.

What if using imperial was a pet peeve of Lawson's and Miranda started using it just to ****** him off? It's not really in character for Miranda to be that petty, and detrimentally so to boot, but I could see it in her younger, teenage years perhaps, and it's just something that's stuck.

Though even there it's kind of too whimsically random for the type of relationship we knew they had. This is the kind of stuff you'd expect them to chuckle about as adults now. But there's clearly nothing remotely funny or whimsical about Miranda and her father.

And after that masterful segue, any ideas about my above dilemma?

#81992
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Mass Effect 1 does many things better than Mass Effect 2.

The narrative is just much stronger; the dialogue wheel was much more intuitive, allowing for players to pick Renegade options and Paragon justification and vice versa; things like giving an interview were just that much more detailed with multiple questions and answers.

But it doesn't have Miranda Lawson so here I am, dragging myself through the planets, looking for minerals, just wanting to move on.

 

Speaking of which, Miranda probably saw that interview. Wonder what she thought of it.



#81993
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I disagree with that by the way: I think Mass Effect 2 did almost everything better than 1 or 3, on top of having Miranda, (and Kasumi, and Mordin and Grunt, and Thane, and Legion) and while scanning planets for stuff isn't the most riveting kind of gameplay I like it better than driving a tank through an empty desert looking for stuff.



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Posting unrelated Yvonne videos.

 

 

Just like old times.


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#81995
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Yep. Can't get Miranda out of my head, not that I desire to, there isn't a way where I don't think about her. It's crazy.

#81996
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I saw that rap battle a few days ago, and it's probably Whitney's best so far. Her (and Yvonne's) flow is just so much better than the previous battles, and Yvonne drops some pretty good lines.



#81997
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ME2's narrative was only weaker because it failed as a part of the whole trilogy. We accomplished precisely dick.

 

As a standalone game it would've surpassed ME1 for sure. Thing is the Reaper storyline... kinda sucks. Despite later subversions it's a cosmic horror story overshadowing a power fantasy/space adventure. And that's where most of the problems come from. We can go on ad nauseum about the endings and the idiot balls that preceded it but at the core, this is the problem. A mishmash of genres and stories they wanted to tell that results in unstoppable force vs immovable object. The only question is, why are we surprised it resulted in a train wreck? The real surprise is that it was still enjoyable, for the most part. But that enjoyment came from the characters and the universe, not the story.

 

It's the same kind of clash and fail as the Star Wars prequels actually. There they wanted to do a character story for Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader but instead bogged it down with intergalactic politics and some great war between clones and robots. Except they didn't have characters we liked to save them.



#81998
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ME2's narrative was only weaker because it failed as a part of the whole trilogy. We accomplished precisely dick.

Which is only a problem in hindsight, since ME3 didn't follow up on anything from ME2 except for the glorified cameo of the human Reaper and obligatory dropping names of various character names.


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Which is only a problem in hindsight, since ME3 didn't follow up on anything from ME2 except for the glorified cameo of the human Reaper and obligatory dropping names of various character names.

As much as I love ME2, there wasn't much to follow up on. We stopped one baby Reaper that's going to start being built again anyway. We killed the Collectors but we know they'll make more husks. Go team.

 

ME2 should've yielded the path to final victory, and ended with us starting down it. ME3 would've then been the war and the struggle to finish it in time. So basically instead of the baby Reaper, we should've found the Crucible. Fix details as needed to avoid idiot plot holes.



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Hey, hope y'all are well.

 

In the interest of discussion, anyone else been playing The Witcher 3? I'm loving it, but my main point is that it's Yennefer's first full appearance and she is very Miranda-like. Yeah, I know she existed in the books long before Miranda, but she's a slightly different character to then.

 

First up, a picture:

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She's powerful, smart and has a temper (she threw me through a portal that dropped me in a lake...)

 

She's also incredibly determined, and not afraid to upset people or compromise her morals if it serves a greater purpose. Not many people like her, not even ones who know her well, and many find her frosty.

 

She also has a surrogate daughter (an aforementioned greater purpose).

 

She is infertile (but then, all sorceresses are, she's just keen to reverse it).

 

Anyway, it's a fantastic game and she is a great character. Very well-written.


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