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[Ieldra]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
Note that Kaidan is getting heavy armor as part of his redesign and he's a Biotic
I doubt they would do that for Miranda but something that is sexy but also looks like it offers some protection would be a nice compromise for fans IMO

+1

jtav wrote....
And it doesn't even have to be armor. I'd be happy with a classy casual
outfit. What she has now looks cheap. The white outfit is dreadful and
the black has more than a whiff of dominatrix gear.

Exactly that. I wouldn't have a problem with her white catsuit if it looked more like the one on the Redemption #4 cover. Just shows that concepts don't always transfer into the actualy game without losing style.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 juin 2011 - 06:57 .

[Ieldra]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
For amor I'm still hoping for what they showed in the magazines...
It would make a great entrance:  Your fighting against Cerberus troopers and out of no where this elite appears and kills the Cerberus troopers with a combination of biotics and guns with acrobatics.  As the squad is momentarily confused over what just happened, the elite takes off her helmet shakes her head to let down her hair.  Squadmate asks "Who is that?" OR "Look who it is" and Shepard responds with a smile: "Miranda"

What an entrance!

That outfit would be interesting, though I don't recall it very well. Do you have a picture? As for the scene, I'd like to add this to the entrance scene I already proposed some time ago on the old thread.

But didn't they say that figure would be an enemy? I'd hate so see Miranda as an enemy....

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 juin 2011 - 07:04 .

[Ieldra]

Arijharn wrote...
Could it be that what you're getting at is their respective 'paragon-ness' or 'renegade-ness'?

No, the pairs of opposites are: the heart and the mind, traditional and progressivist, religion and science. We have a tendency for the former of each pair in Ashley, and a tendency for the latter of each in Miranda. They are both strong women, but even the ambition they share has a very different slant. Or could you ever see Ashley make her way outside of the regular military, say as a merc or in a paramilitary organization? Or Miranda in the Alliance Navy?

As for their Paragon- and Renegade-ness, Ashley can be quite consequentialist, and she has one other quality often associated with Renegades: distrust of nonhumans. Paragon does seem to fit Ashley's side of my pairs of opposites somewhat, but Renegade as shown in the game doesn't necessarily fit Miranda's. 

Changing the subject a little though; I romance Ashley during the course of ME1 with the same sort of inevitability that I find myself when I come to ME2 and finding myself romancing Miranda. But I guess I'm ruthless, because I sacrifice Ashley on Virmire because while I like her:
• Kaidan is a superior officer.
• Kaidan is a biotic.
• I always put her with the bomb by some accident of fate (because I never really pay attention to the part where you choose

Yep, that's the decision my main Shepards (femShep and maleShep) also take. But I do things differently in my ME1 playthroughs. I don't want Ashley to be dead in all my playthroughs. My Engineer femShep has Ashley in her core squad - Ashley (Soldier), Liara (Adept) and Rani Shepard (Engineer) are the perfect ME1 team, and I want to see the Ashley/Miranda conflict with one of my maleSheps romance Ashley, so I must rationalize the decision to spare her in terms of the mission. 

I always try and look at the 'bigger picture,' but personally I hope in ME3 I run into other members of Ashley's family and want to see how they react.

I don't think they should add more family stuff than that which already has relevance for characters' existing story arcs. But meeting one of her sisters somewhere on a mission and having a short exchange with her, yes, that would be interesting.

As for the inevitability, yes, for a maleShep the path is unerringly ME1 Ashley, ME2 Miranda. I can get Ashley killed on Virmire, but I can't romance Liara with a maleShep for some inexplicable reason. I also cannot get Miranda killed on the SM. Not even to see how she dies only to reload after that. I've not even watched a Miranda death scene on youtube. I might want to do it if Miranda turns into a damsel-in-distress in ME3, but fortunately I don't believe for a moment she will. 

[ParadoxAu]

Yannkee wrote...

I don't mind some minor changes, but I don't want a complete "redesign" (I hate that word). The less changes, the better.
And please no armor (since they don't know what light armors means anymore), or make it optional for those who want it.

Yeah, i don't mind if she has Armor, but as long as it's optional.

As far as her Cat/Jump suits are concerned. I'd be happy with something similar to her Loyalty outfit without any cerberus logos. I really don't like her white suit... It was actually quite upsetting that she put it back on for the Romance scene

[Arijharn]

You know, I want the armour catsuit compromise myself actually. Don't get me wrong, I do like what she usually wears (this could be the fact that I'm male but I'm unsure!) but I think it's only appropriate on somewhere like the Normandy. I think the DLC appearance pack armor is too 'bulky' to the point where it would restrict freedom of movement to a great deal, and somehow that's not how I think of how Miranda would perform in combat. To me at least, because of her genetic tailoring and increased capabilities, I'd think she'd want to wear something that complements that.

So... I'd expect her to dress perhaps more like Kasumi than a Shephardified (i.e., power armoured) warrior.

[ParadoxAu]

Arijharn wrote...

You know, I want the armour catsuit compromise myself actually. Don't get me wrong, I do like what she usually wears (this could be the fact that I'm male but I'm unsure!) but I think it's only appropriate on somewhere like the Normandy. I think the DLC appearance pack armor is too 'bulky' to the point where it would restrict freedom of movement to a great deal, and somehow that's not how I think of how Miranda would perform in combat. To me at least, because of her genetic tailoring and increased capabilities, I'd think she'd want to wear something that complements that.

So... I'd expect her to dress perhaps more like Kasumi than a Shephardified (i.e., power armoured) warrior.

I wouldn't mind that type of a compromise. Essentially have Miranda's Loyalty outfit, altered slightly to provide atleast some protection. Whilst on the Normandy she wears her normal Catsuits.

I'd like it if their were customization options for both Combat and Casual Outfits for all Squad mates.

On that note, I wouldn't mind it if my Shepard and his Squad actually wore Casualwear when on the Citadel. I never understood why Shep and his Squadmates wear full armorsuits when shopping on the Citadel. It makes him and his squad seem out of place.

[ViSeiRa]

I always thought Miranda doesn't need a full suit of armor, she a biotic and a tech user... she favors mobility over protection, they need to make her a light combat suit, not bulky armor, and on the Normandy she can go back to her awesome catsuit.

[Raizo]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Thank you! Using that now.

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For amor I'm still hoping for what they showed in the magazines...
It would make a great entrance:  Your fighting against Cerberus troopers and out of no where this elite appears and kills the Cerberus troopers with a combination of biotics and guns with acrobatics.  As the squad is momentarily confused over what just happened, the elite takes off her helmet shakes her head to let down her hair.  Squadmate asks "Who is that?" OR "Look who it is" and Shepard responds with a smile: "Miranda"

What an entrance!

Yeah,for the last few weeks I've been thinking about Miranda in that armour as well. How cool would it be if Miri was the one behind that mask. The thought of Miranda wielding a sword is just so awesome. I doubt it will happen although I can fantasize...

I hoping that Miranda has longer, straighter hair in ME3 and hopefully it the new hairstyle does leave her forehead so exposed.

As for what she will be wearing, that's a tough one. I'm not keen on her default outfit in ME2, I don't like padded Hexagon paterns on the outfit, it makes me feel as if she is wearing an outfit mde out of bubble wrap. To make matters worse, all those shots of her crotch or her ass look really obscene ( too much ****** and too much junk in the trunk ) thanks to all that extra padding. I'm also not a big fan of the colour white in general, it's okay on certain things and in small doses but  I feel there is too much white on her default outfit.

I also hate her Alternative Appearnace pack one, I honestly can't think of a single decent thing about it, it just does not look right on her all.

On the other hand I 'LOVE' her Loyalty outfit. I think it is black but other posters have pointed out that it may actually be a very dark blue ( or maybe it's just the lighting in the game ) but either way if your going to put a hot woman in a skin tight leather catsuit you might as well give her a smoking body and make that catsuit as snug as possible and as smooth and flat ( ie, no bumps or paterns  ).

Miranda will probably have armour in ME3 ( because of all the people that complained about her lack of clothing in ME2 ).  I never had any probelm with her Loyalty outfit myself but if she does have to waer armour then I am hoping that it will look like the armour with 4 eyes and the samuai sword from the GI Magazine scans ( and hopefully I will have the option to change the colour of it later ). If not then at very least I'm hoping for somthing that looks like Liara's LOTSB armour, it is probably th ebest female armour I have seen in any of the ME games, Bioware can't really go wrong if they use that as a template for Miranda's ME3 armour.

[AgentWhale]

If Miranda's ass does not feature prominently in ME3 I will not be buying it.

[Ieldra]

Raizo wrote...
Miranda will probably have armour in ME3 ( because of all the people that complained about her lack of clothing in ME2 ).  I never had any probelm with her Loyalty outfit myself but if she does have to waer armour then I am hoping that it will look like the armour with 4 eyes and the samuai sword from the GI Magazine scans ( and hopefully I will have the option to change the colour of it later ). If not then at very least I'm hoping for somthing that looks like Liara's LOTSB armour, it is probably th ebest female armour I have seen in any of the ME games, Bioware can't really go wrong if they use that as a template for Miranda's ME3 armour.

I've been playing long with her AAP2 armor and find myself tiring of it. For for the rather boring coloring rather than any other reason. As for bulk, it appears less bulky than the one from the GI article (link) but that one looks 100% better, so I wouldn't mind it. My favorite would be something inpired by Liara's LotSB outfit, but as long as it doesn't feature things like high heels and exposed vitals, has a helmet option for space exploration and doesn't look as cheaply and aggressively sexualized as her ME2 default outfit, I'd be fine with almost anything. Her loyalty outfit is nice, but in time it always gets to me that there's more than a hint of a dominatrix outfit in it. I'd prefer if it wasn't *quite* as skintight.  

[atheelogos]

Arijharn wrote...

So... I'd expect her to dress perhaps more like Kasumi than a Shephardified (i.e., power armoured) warrior.

She needs to be Shephardified imo. If she wants to look sexy do that crap on the Normandy.

[Ieldra]

atheelogos wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

So... I'd expect her to dress perhaps more like Kasumi than a Shephardified (i.e., power armoured) warrior.

She needs to be Shephardified imo. If she wants to look sexy do that crap on the Normandy.

No. Shepard's armor is too bulky. See all those asari commandos in ME1 and ME2? They're wearing light armor or just a padded uniform. That's what I'd like for Miranda. I also don't mind sexy. It should only look not like "sexy" is overriding any other consideration, like protection, and it should look classy.

For her "civilian" outfit, I'd prefer something not so skintight. That thing looks as if would burst the seams any second. Must be very uncomfortable. 

[Caihn]

Arijharn wrote...
So... I'd expect her to dress perhaps more like Kasumi than a Shephardified (i.e., power armoured) warrior.

I agree.

And I would like lighter armors or leather suits for Shepard. I know the majority of players use a soldier Shepard, but this doesn't mean that the other players have to be stuck with heavy armors.


New screenshot :

Modifié par Yannkee, 19 juin 2011 - 01:32 .

[MisterJB]

Raizo wrote...
How cool would it be if Miri was the one behind that mask.

She's not. I remember Hudson saying that the Ninja Girls would just be a different type of Cerberus mook, mini-bosses at the beginning but, by the end of the game, Shepard would be fighting them in squads. He also confirmed Miranda will not be an antagonist. 
We could be surprised tough, Miranda could wear one of those to infiltrate Cerberus.

atheelogos wrote...
She needs to be Shephardified imo.

She already has. The AAP2 looks heavier than anything Ashley wore in ME1.

[jtav]

Where did it say she wasn't an antagonist? That's one of my nightmare scenarios accounted for.

[atheelogos]

Ieldra2 wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

So... I'd expect her to dress perhaps more like Kasumi than a Shephardified (i.e., power armoured) warrior.

She needs to be Shephardified imo. If she wants to look sexy do that crap on the Normandy.

No. Shepard's armor is too bulky. See all those asari commandos in ME1 and ME2? They're wearing light armor or just a padded uniform. That's what I'd like for Miranda. I also don't mind sexy. It should only look not like "sexy" is overriding any other consideration, like protection, and it should look classy.

For her "civilian" outfit, I'd prefer something not so skintight. That thing looks as if would burst the seams any second. Must be very uncomfortable. 

I didn't mean to say that she should get heavy armor. Just armor that looks like it can protect her from mass accelerated rounds and protects her, head to toe, from hostil environments

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...
For amor I'm still hoping for what they showed in the magazines...
It would make a great entrance:  Your fighting against Cerberus troopers and out of no where this elite appears and kills the Cerberus troopers with a combination of biotics and guns with acrobatics.  As the squad is momentarily confused over what just happened, the elite takes off her helmet shakes her head to let down her hair.  Squadmate asks "Who is that?" OR "Look who it is" and Shepard responds with a smile: "Miranda"

What an entrance!

But didn't they say that figure would be an enemy? I'd hate so see Miranda as an enemy....

I see people are getting confused...NO I'm not saying she would be the enemy, she could have gotten the armor after silently killing one of the elites before hand

 Ieldra2 wrote...
That outfit would be interesting, though I don't recall it very well. Do you have a picture?

This is still artwork though so we don't know how it looks ingame...yet

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...

Raizo wrote...
How cool would it be if Miri was the one behind that mask.

She's not. I remember Hudson saying that the Ninja Girls would just be a different type of Cerberus mook, mini-bosses at the beginning but, by the end of the game, Shepard would be fighting them in squads. He also confirmed Miranda will not be an antagonist. 
We could be surprised tough, Miranda could wear one of those to infiltrate Cerberus.

Where did he confirm that Miranda won't be an antagonist? That's a very important fact that should not have escaped us....

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 juin 2011 - 02:25 .

[goofyomnivore]

I hate the white armor. It looks okay in the comics, but in game it didn't translate well at all. The black armor isn't bad, nor is the AA2 IMO. Finding a compromise between the two would be ideal IMO.

Something like The Baroness



Has a light armor look, with the gun strap/belt things you can see on the white armor. The heels need to look more believable for combat however.

Modifié par strive, 19 juin 2011 - 02:27 .

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Where did he confirm that Miranda won't be an antagonist? That's a very important fact that should not have escaped us....

Brennon Holmes was the one who said:
http://social.biowar...7598/26#7336012

"She's one of the most elite of the Cerberus enemies. So not really a unique enemy, and not a boss - though if you were to fight one of them early on in the game, I imagine that *could* feel a little like a mini-boss fight. "


And later when I asked if it could be Miranda:
http://social.biowar...7598/26#7336070

"Yes, that's a female Cerberus enemy - not Miranda."

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 19 juin 2011 - 02:34 .

[jtav]

Not quite the same thing. I still have a certain amount of fear that she's been indoctrinated.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

Not quite the same thing. I still have a certain amount of fear that she's been indoctrinated.

I doubt they would do that to those who like her and even those who romanced her...

[atheelogos]

strive wrote...

I hate the white armor. It looks okay in the comics, but in game it didn't translate well at all. The black armor isn't bad, nor is the AA2 IMO. Finding a compromise between the two would be ideal IMO.

Something like The Baroness



Has a light armor look, with the gun strap/belt things you can see on the white armor. The heels need to look more believable for combat however.

Hell no that armor is just like the one ME2. That's the kind of outfit that everyone is complaining about. And no heels.... just no:mellow:

[Caihn]

atheelogos wrote...
That's the kind of outfit that everyone is complaining about.

Many fans don't have problems with the catsuits.

You want Miranda to wear armor, fine. But stop making assumptions that everybody wants this.

[jtav]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Not quite the same thing. I still have a certain amount of fear that she's been indoctrinated.

I doubt they would do that to those who like her and even those who romanced her...

They've made your LI into an antagonist before: Bastila and Aribeth. Both cases involved greater or lesser degrees of mind control. You could redeem them via power of love. It would be a stupid scenario, but the precedent is there.

My other fear is that she'll be used to establish Leng as a threat, and whatever he does to her will define her in ME3. Stuffed into the fridge.