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[MegaBadExample]

ME too^^^^^^^^^
I hope she gets a new outfit that doesn't have a Cerberus  logo on it

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 10 août 2011 - 10:24 .

[breakdown71289]

So am i, but patience is key JL81.....

[srjepsen]

I for one, don't mind the Cerberus logo, in fact, I hope they offer the option to work with TIM again, all I need is a valid reason why his troops are gunning for Shep.

[Sebby]

srjepsen wrote...

I for one, don't mind the Cerberus logo, in fact, I hope they offer the option to work with TIM again, all I need is a valid reason why his troops are gunning for Shep.

Amen, I'm willing to forgive Bioware over having to fight Cerberus if they do that. Well, that and making TIM a LI of course.

[Twistedfaith]

srjepsen wrote...

I for one, don't mind the Cerberus logo, in fact, I hope they offer the option to work with TIM again, all I need is a valid reason why his troops are gunning for Shep.

There has been quite a lot of speculation as to why, i'm not sure how your personal playthroughs will affect it, i.e. agreeing with him/being nicer/not destroying the collector ship, yet if you simply look at the first "demo", or well, the one on Earth shown at E3 I believe, Casey does let a certain something slip. Whether or not he's trying to build rumours, or this is legit, I don't know.
 On another note, having completed ME2 all the time with Miranda at the end on the Collector "vessel/base", she resigns from Cerberus, hanging up the towel, or however you want to put it. I just hope the alliance will tailor a special "suit" for her, in the way Cerb' did for her!

Modifié par Twistedfaith, 11 août 2011 - 03:30 .

[srjepsen]

agreed, it would be the wrong idea to put Miranda in anything other than a form fitting catsuit, that armor looked like crap imo, and don't get me started on "it's not realistic," I don't think any of us play ME for realism.

[MisterJB]

And I hope Miranda doesn't wear any logo, Cerberus or Alliance. She's too good for any of them.

[Dr. Doctor]

Well considering that ME3 is taking place during a full-scale galactic war I think it would make sense for Miranda to be wearing some sort of armor during ground or space-based operations, the catsuit would be more suited towards shipboard attire.

[srjepsen]

Well, maybe a Gucci, Fendi, or Prada logo would suit her, she does settle for nothing but the best

[srjepsen]

and for the ones that want armor, make it an option, I don't think it would be too hard to add customizable options for characters other than Shepard

[Ieldra]

srjepsen wrote...
agreed, it would be the wrong idea to put Miranda in anything other than a form fitting catsuit, that armor looked like crap imo, and don't get me started on "it's not realistic," I don't think any of us play ME for realism.

It is a matter of dressing for the occasion. Even if you are not strictly realistic you cannot get away with everything without breaking suspension of disbelief. Apart from that, iconic over-the-top styles are for superhero comic books, and I don't want ME3 to look like one. ME2 was bad enough in that (Samara *cough*). I agree the AAP2 armor has limited artistic merit, but it was still a relief when it came out.

There are different possible solutions for this in ME3. I'd be fine with anything that doesn't force me to play ME3 with Miranda in combat wearing painted-on pants and high heels.

[Sebby]

I couldn't stomach using Miranda pre-AAP2. That pack was a godsend, now if only they'd release another one to fix Samara/Morinth.....

[Spanky Magoo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

srjepsen wrote...
agreed, it would be the wrong idea to put Miranda in anything other than a form fitting catsuit, that armor looked like crap imo, and don't get me started on "it's not realistic," I don't think any of us play ME for realism.

It is a matter of dressing for the occasion. Even if you are not strictly realistic you cannot get away with everything without breaking suspension of disbelief. Apart from that, iconic over-the-top styles are for superhero comic books, and I don't want ME3 to look like one. ME2 was bad enough in that (Samara *cough*). I agree the AAP2 armor has limited artistic merit, but it was still a relief when it came out.

There are different possible solutions for this in ME3. I'd be fine with anything that doesn't force me to play ME3 with Miranda in combat wearing painted-on pants and high heels.

I stlii get mad at all that armor talk I for one wish shepard had a "catsuit" aka light armor lol. what broke my immersion is that shep has to walk around illium and the citadel werering full combat armor while Miranda and Thane get to walk around in sweet suits.

[STJebus]

Dont there shields and biotics render armor practically useless? unless in close combat?... and if ur a trained operative such as miranda less would probably equate to more for flexibility purposes, she doesnt need bulky armor slowing her down in close combat. you all call it the "catsuit" for the reason that catwomen wears it... anyone else notice that?... she doesnt wear armor because shes to good and resourceful to get shot, plus it allows her to move freely and kick ass... and catwomen doesnt have a biotic barrier to protect her and its still her #1 choice of attire. Catsuit is a must IMHO

[Volandrius]

STJebus wrote...

Dont there shields and biotics render armor practically useless? unless in close combat?... and if ur a trained operative such as miranda less would probably equate to more for flexibility purposes, she doesnt need bulky armor slowing her down in close combat. you all call it the "catsuit" for the reason that catwomen wears it... anyone else notice that?... she doesnt wear armor because shes to good and resourceful to get shot, plus it allows her to move freely and kick ass... and catwomen doesnt have a biotic barrier to protect her and its still her #1 choice of attire. Catsuit is a must IMHO

Agreed. Armor serves no purpose if you have shields/biotic barriers. And for people like Samara, Miranda, etc. armor would just slow them down.

[LuxDragon]

Armor does stop bullets as a last resort when shields fail (And they do. At least in the books)

The more important aspect of armor is that they function in a vacuum. I hate doing missions like the Collector ship or the Derelict Reaper when Shepard, Garrus, and Tali are the only ones with suitable protection.

It's like sending astronauts out on spacewalks naked with only an oxygen mask to wear. WTH?

Oh yeah, and the reason catwoman gets away with wearing catsuits is because bad guys in comic books/movies/cartoons either aren't packing heat, or they're notoriously horrible shots. Or Batman saves her in the nick of time.

Doesn't really help when bad guys ARE good shots and do so at 200 meters +.

Modifié par LuxDragon, 11 août 2011 - 06:25 .

[Caihn]

srjepsen wrote...

agreed, it would be the wrong idea to put Miranda in anything other than a form fitting catsuit, that armor looked like crap imo, and don't get me started on "it's not realistic," I don't think any of us play ME for realism.

You know, I find Miranda's catsuit far more realistic for combat than the AAP2 armor.

Do you believe that the development of resistant fabric or flexible materials (which already exist, and some are more efficient than some protective rigid materials) could have been stopped during 150 years ?

I have a real problem with bulky armors like the N7 or AAP2 one, for certain class which requires agility in combat. These armors are unrealistic to me, because I can't imagine someone performing certain movements we can see in the game (running, crouching, jumping) while wearing these kind of unpractical and bulky armors.
It's not a matter of weight, it's just that rigid parts don't allow to perform this.

I have a different opinion about high heels : I don't think she should wear that in combat. But like said Christina Norman : "do video games really need to be realistic combat-footware simulators ?"

I also find that light armors or catsuits fit more the character. But it's an another debate ...

[Vertigo_1]

Yannkee wrote...
Do you believe that the development of resistant fabric or flexible materials (which already exist, and some are more efficient than some protective rigid materials) could have been stopped during 150 years ?

Funny you mention that Yannkee, as I recently saw on TV this show (I think it was NOVA here in the states) where they were showing off advanced kevlar and other materials they were creating to stop bullets/stabbing.  I can see it advancing much further down the line into the ME era.

I do have to agree with Lux on the full body protection in vacuums, seems like Bioware ran out of time and decided to give most squadmates oxygen masks instead of designing helmets tailored to each squadmate.

[Sebby]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Do you believe that the development of resistant fabric or flexible materials (which already exist, and some are more efficient than some protective rigid materials) could have been stopped during 150 years ?

Funny you mention that Yannkee, as I recently saw on TV this show (I think it was NOVA here in the states) where they were showing off advanced kevlar and other materials they were creating to stop bullets/stabbing.  I can see it advancing much further down the line into the ME era.

I do have to agree with Lux on the full body protection in vacuums, seems like Bioware ran out of time and decided to give most squadmates oxygen masks instead of designing helmets tailored to each squadmate.

Helmets wouldn't have changed anything for the nipple strap wearing Jack or the large V neck having Samara.

It's not just the vacuum scenarios issue that's a problem here by the way, using anyone other than Garrus in AAP1 armor kills the immersion for Tali's loyalty mission.

[Vertigo_1]

True enough, I was also a little disappointed in Garrus' LM outfit being just a reskin...would have made more sense to give him a repaired version of it.

[LuxDragon]

That's why I love texmod.

[Filuto]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Do you believe that the development of resistant fabric or flexible materials (which already exist, and some are more efficient than some protective rigid materials) could have been stopped during 150 years ?

Funny you mention that Yannkee, as I recently saw on TV this show (I think it was NOVA here in the states) where they were showing off advanced kevlar and other materials they were creating to stop bullets/stabbing.  I can see it advancing much further down the line into the ME era.

I do have to agree with Lux on the full body protection in vacuums, seems like Bioware ran out of time and decided to give most squadmates oxygen masks instead of designing helmets tailored to each squadmate.

 
I agree with both of you but i would like add something.Sure light material could be good for protection(in the future) but i think thicker(or material with more layers) is still better no mater what time period.

[Spanky Magoo]

LuxDragon wrote...

Armor does stop bullets as a last resort when shields fail (And they do. At least in the books)

The more important aspect of armor is that they function in a vacuum. I hate doing missions like the Collector ship or the Derelict Reaper when Shepard, Garrus, and Tali are the only ones with suitable protection.

It's like sending astronauts out on spacewalks naked with only an oxygen mask to wear. WTH?

Oh yeah, and the reason catwoman gets away with wearing catsuits is because bad guys in comic books/movies/cartoons either aren't packing heat, or they're notoriously horrible shots. Or Batman saves her in the nick of time.

Doesn't really help when bad guys ARE good shots and do so at 200 meters +.

 
Wouldnt a biotic barrier shield like in the sm seal a character from vacuum and a rebreather provide oxygen.

[Ieldra]

Spanky Magoo wrote...
Wouldnt a biotic barrier shield like in the sm seal a character from vacuum and a rebreather provide oxygen.

Possibly. But how long could the biotics on the team hold up that barrier? A few minutes. And what happens if the barrier is breached in combat? Yeah.....you are exposed to vacuum. Or a corrosive atmosphere. Bad enough having those pesky bullets to contend with, if you don't wear a suit covering the whole body and a helmet you get susceptible to natural hazards as well.

Also, sacrificing protection for mobility is fine, but you'd always leave a thin layer of protection just in case. Even if it's only enough to protect against glancing blows from sticks or gas grenades, you won't wear something that offers no protection at all and you definitely won't leave your vitals exposed. So even a light combat outfit would rather have an added layer where there would be cleavage on a civilian outfit.

Let's face it: sexy just isn't for combat. I can compromise for the sake of entertainment, but ME2 went too far. And exposed skin in space is beyond any possibility of a compromise.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 août 2011 - 08:21 .

[Sebby]

I think Miranda is sexy in her AAP2 outfit but that's just me...