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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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I think Miranda is sexy in her AAP2 outfit but that's just me...

And me. But then that's rather not what most people think of as sexy. And the color is unappealing.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...
I think Miranda is sexy in her AAP2 outfit but that's just me...

And me. But then that's rather not what most people think of as sexy. And the color is unappealing.


Their loss!  I also dig my femsheps in black and yellow colored armor. :happy:

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Do you believe that the development of resistant fabric or flexible materials (which already exist, and some are more efficient than some protective rigid materials) could have been stopped during 150 years ?


Funny you mention that Yannkee, as I recently saw on TV this show (I think it was NOVA here in the states) where they were showing off advanced kevlar and other materials they were creating to stop bullets/stabbing.  I can see it advancing much further down the line into the ME era.

I do have to agree with Lux on the full body protection in vacuums, seems like Bioware ran out of time and decided to give most squadmates oxygen masks instead of designing helmets tailored to each squadmate.


I agree that squadmates should wear a full body protection in vaccum (but only in vaccum, and protection doesn't mean ridiculous heavy armor). But I don't understand why Miranda is always considered to be the worst squadmate. I really feel that some consider this as an another opportunity to bash the character. She's definitly not the squadmate who shows the most skin. Even Zaeed doesn't have a full body protection (see his right arm) and nobody complains.
Anyway, I will never replace Miranda by an another squadmate during these few missions. The catsuit is fine, and I will never use this crappy armor.
To me, the only squadmate who would be really ridiculous is Jack, but I don't care because she's never been part of my squad during these missions.

Modifié par Yannkee, 11 août 2011 - 08:40 .


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And I hope Miranda doesn't wear any logo, Cerberus or Alliance. She's too good for any of them.

Miranda shouldn't wear any logo for no other reason that she's a covert operative. In ME3, no one is too good for any faction that fights the Reapers. Also, I must defend Cerberus here - their requirements and missions did a lot to hone Miranda's abilities, and they were indeed good enough for her for almost 20 years.

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But I don't understand why Miranda is always considered to be the worst squadmate. I really feel that some consider this as an another opportunity to bash the character. She's definitly not the squadmate who shows the most skin. Even Zaeed doesn't have a full body protection (see his right arm) and nobody complains.

No, Miranda isn't the worst. Jack and Samara are. Honorable mention to Jacob. But I don't like them as much so I care less. As for Zaeed's arm: if Miranda wore an armored vest covering her torso I would be fine with exposed arms - except in space, of course. Only that style would fit neither the universe nor the character.

The general problem is that sexy and combat *really* don't mix well. If you're going for the sexy, you tend to expose exactly those parts which would have most protection in combat. That's why fanservice in combat outfits so often crosses the border into the ridiculous. Mass Effect isn't a superhero comic book, damn it, and I don't want my favorite character to look as if she's stepped out of one. I also don't want Miranda to look as if she'd just stepped out of a bath of liquid latex.

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I guess so but I think that armor that miranda got looked dumb imo but I prefer her white. and dont even get me started on that visor ( I play on 360 so no mods for me ). I think she should have her original white with a SR2 logo replacing the cerberus logo and give her a suit of armor for those who want it in me3 assuming she has a large enough role to warrant such attention, one can only hope I guess.

Modifié par Spanky Magoo, 11 août 2011 - 09:23 .


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I think the problem with the white catsuit lies more in the realization and the medium than in the design. If you look at Miranda on the Redemption #4 cover, she wears it and it looks elegant, sleek and sexy in a non-intrusive way. On the other hand, the in-game version looks cheap and made for the lowest form of titillation. Enyala has it exactly right with her comment. The ass shots don't help...

I do not want Miranda to wear something that draws such comments - and makes me think they have a point.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 août 2011 - 09:50 .


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Spanky Magoo wrote...

I guess so but I think that armor that miranda got looked dumb imo but I prefer her white. and dont even get me started on that visor ( I play on 360 so no mods for me ). I think she should have her original white with a SR2 logo replacing the cerberus logo and give her a suit of armor for those who want it in me3 assuming she has a large enough role to warrant such attention, one can only hope I guess.


I prefer the black catsuit.

I hope Bioware will let the armor optional for Miranda in ME3. I want the catsuit (or a light armor), even during combat. I want something credible for her. Give heavy armors for soldiers like Ashley if you want, but don't ruin everything with Miranda please.

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^ I want this

And please, light armor for Shepard too. I want to play with my adept again.

Modifié par Yannkee, 11 août 2011 - 09:57 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

I think the problem with the white catsuit lies more in the realization and the medium than in the design. If you look at Miranda on the Redemption #4 cover, she wears it and it looks elegant, sleek and sexy in a non-intrusive way. On the other hand, the in-game version looks cheap and made for the lowest form of titillation. Enyala has it exactly right with her comment. The ass shots don't help...

I do not want Miranda to wear something that draws such comments - and makes me think they have a point.


I think it has more to do with the texture that her white suit has that makes it look better to me her loyalty suit looks to shiny for me personally. I know the white accentuates her features in a provocative manner but Im mature enough as to not stare at her butt the whole game lol, but whatever I like the white and usually have her in it the whole game and I see it as her main colors so to speak. to each his own though.

Modifié par Spanky Magoo, 11 août 2011 - 10:04 .


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Yannkee, I get that you prefer the catsuit. But to say that the catsuit is "credible" and the armor is not is preposterous. The catsuit is one of least credible outfits in all of the two games. Nobody would ever wear anything as over-the-top as that into combat. Nobody, I tell you.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 août 2011 - 12:03 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

I think the problem with the white catsuit lies more in the realization and the medium than in the design. If you look at Miranda on the Redemption #4 cover, she wears it and it looks elegant, sleek and sexy in a non-intrusive way. On the other hand, the in-game version looks cheap and made for the lowest form of titillation. Enyala has it exactly right with her comment. The ass shots don't help...

I do not want Miranda to wear something that draws such comments - and makes me think they have a point.

I happened to like Miranda's comment about not hiding from her looks, just another element of her character that shouldn't be avoided imo, I'm probably one of the few on this thread that didn't mind the ass shots, I know my Shep didn't!  On a serious note though, character customization would appease everyone, if you add armor, it should boost health, if you don't, accuracy should get a boost, being in the military, I can tell you it is far easier to shoot expertly w/out armor, movement is also heavily constricted, so w/ shields and biotics being apart of the ME universe, Miranda can go without the armor, and LIVE to tell about it

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee, I get that you prefer the catsuit. But to say that the catsuit is "credible" and the armor is not is preposterous. The catsuit is one of least credible outfits in all of the two games. Nobody would ever wear anything as over-the-top as that into combat. Nobody, I tell you.


Matter of an opinion. I can't see how anyone could wear something like the armor. It's hideous.

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True, her "armor" does not cover all her skin.. there is signs of a cleavage in the making, but is also as they say. Armor constrics movement.. And Miranda can very well stay in cover and use biotics etc. Armor can stop one or two bullets if hit in the right place (not at the knees etc) but if it hinders her movement, makes her uncomfortable so the biotics does not work as intended etc im sure its a good trade..

If her armor actually covered all her body maybe it could have stopped one or two bullets? btw: Talis armor does not look all that tought either, neither does Mordins.. So its all about Tech armor/shields..

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Well considering that ME3 is taking place during a full-scale galactic war I think it would make sense for Miranda to be wearing some sort of armor during ground or space-based operations, the catsuit would be more suited towards shipboard attire.



Agreed. I'd like to see something similar to ME, where your squad had armor when deployed but abord the Normandy, they go back to a 'casual' attire.

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Melrache wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee, I get that you prefer the catsuit. But to say that the catsuit is "credible" and the armor is not is preposterous. The catsuit is one of least credible outfits in all of the two games. Nobody would ever wear anything as over-the-top as that into combat. Nobody, I tell you.


Matter of an opinion. I can't see how anyone could wear something like the armor. It's hideous.

Hideousness does not prevent functionality as a protective outfit. Thus it is more credible than an outfit that doesn't protect at all.

Having said that, I would prefer a light asari-commando-style armor (roughly like Benezia's squads in ME1 had) that looks good for Miranda in ME3.  Covering the whole torso, legs and arms and with an optional helmet and gloves for space operations. And no high heels. Would that satisfy everyone?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 août 2011 - 12:42 .


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srjepsen wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I think the problem with the white catsuit lies more in the realization and the medium than in the design. If you look at Miranda on the Redemption #4 cover, she wears it and it looks elegant, sleek and sexy in a non-intrusive way. On the other hand, the in-game version looks cheap and made for the lowest form of titillation. Enyala has it exactly right with her comment. The ass shots don't help...

I do not want Miranda to wear something that draws such comments - and makes me think they have a point.

I happened to like Miranda's comment about not hiding from her looks, just another element of her character that shouldn't be avoided imo, I'm probably one of the few on this thread that didn't mind the ass shots, I know my Shep didn't!  On a serious note though, character customization would appease everyone, if you add armor, it should boost health, if you don't, accuracy should get a boost, being in the military, I can tell you it is far easier to shoot expertly w/out armor, movement is also heavily constricted, so w/ shields and biotics being apart of the ME universe, Miranda can go without the armor, and LIVE to tell about it

you are not alone i dont mind little a*s effect in mass effect :)

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I can't say Miranda doesn't look good in this:

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"What do you mean I'm not looking good in this!" :lol:

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 août 2011 - 12:53 .


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Ah, armor wars. For the record I hate the white catsuit in its default form. It's cheap and tasteless, not sexy. And the idea that anyone would wear them in a straight up firefight is preposterous, Frankly, I don't believe Miranda would wear what she's wearing in-game. The sexual titillation tail was wagging the characterization dog.

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I didn't like the ass shots, but I still think the two other suits were better than the armor. It took awhile to get used to them, due to the oversexuality, but I can't stand the armor. So I choose the lesser of two evils.

This is one.. Sure the ass is still... Eh..

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I'd prefer something like these.

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Ieldra2 wrote...
"What do you mean I'm not looking good in this!" :lol:


"Miranda, I never said you didn't look good, I just want to see you in the catsuit and perv.":D A slap to Shepard's face commences.

Modifié par srjepsen, 11 août 2011 - 01:12 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

"What do you mean I'm not looking good in this!" :lol:


I think this look was a setp in the right direction, but found the shoulder pads and chestplate to be a little....bulky. Especially that bit that sticks out the front and is used more in the heavy armors, like on Kaidans new armor. Also was not a fan of that visor, though it looks much better since you've turned it off :lol:

Modifié par DCYNIGR8, 11 août 2011 - 01:11 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...
Yannkee, I get that you prefer the catsuit. But to say that the catsuit is "credible" and the armor is not is preposterous. The catsuit is one of least credible outfits in all of the two games. Nobody would ever wear anything as over-the-top as that into combat. Nobody, I tell you.


I already explained why I consider the catsuit more credible than the armor in my previous posts.
And the fact that you would never wear this in combat change nothing.

What is preposterous is that you always want to impose your opinion as the only valid one.

Ieldra2 wrote...

I can't say Miranda doesn't look good in this:


I can :sick:

Modifié par Yannkee, 11 août 2011 - 01:17 .


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Without the use of TexMod, I think she looks best in armor: sleek, dangerous, and appealing. The catsuits aren't even sexy.

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Its all about the Loyalty alternate appearance. Black Leather Miranda FTW.

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@Melrache:
if I say that I prefer the white catsuit to the pictures you posted that should tell you enough. These things draw even more attention to Miranda's "assets" than the catsuits. They also neither fit the universe nor the character.

@Yannkee:
Can't see I'm doing anything you aren't doing. You say the armor is not credible, I say that claim is preposterous and the catsuit is less credible. I can understand why you dislike the armor, but I don't have to agree with you. Also posting that smily in response isn't exactly subtle as well.

@jtav:
Yep, armor wars. The favorite pastime of Miranda fans in the absence of any new information. Well, if all the hubbub results in more outfit options that's for the best.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 août 2011 - 01:36 .