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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Melrache wrote...

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Melrache wrote...

Yeah, possibly, if they try to have an episode to air during the holidays.

But anyway.. If she's not the VA.... Well....


They changed Liara's french VA in LotSB. (I'm glad I don't play in french)
I can't imagine they would do something so stupid for Miranda.
Miranda without Yvonne's voice is not Miranda anymore.



Yeah, before I even knew about the actress or the character's personality, the voice drew my attention.


Everything about Miri drew my attention. Even though I hardly knew who Yvonne was when I met Miri. I found out about Yvonne later on and started watching Chuck. 

I loved Both of them ever since.:wub:

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Either Strahovski will return or Miranda's appearance will consist of a helmeted figure with no lines.


Oh my God - to be in here if that happens Posted Image


And just suppose she isn't back I say give any new VA a chance


Nah, I see no reason to. She's got Yvonne's face and voice. Otherwise she's someone else, failed clone.

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jtav wrote...

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Why? The ends justify the means since Shepard is the best chance to stop the Reapers. I think most rational players would realize that a messy chance is still better than no chance. I find the idea of her understanding and applying Reaper tech that fast to an unheralded experiment incredible.


You forget the significant chunk of people who think anything Reaoer-related is evil by default. I think it may have been stupid, depending on exact circumstances but not evil, and I won't resent her. But there will be knee-jerk hatred.

The only way I'd have a problem with Shep having Reaper-tech inside him/her is if it allows Harby to "assume control".

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Mr Plow wrote...
And just suppose she isn't back I say give any new VA a chance


Not me. If they change the VA, it will be like if Miranda is not in the game.

She's coming back with her voice, her looks, her personality .. and everything that make her the character she is. Or she's not coming back.

Modifié par Yannkee, 14 août 2011 - 07:08 .


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I agree. She will not be Miri anymore without Yvonne. No one else can be Miri, no matter how talented they are. Only Yvonne can be Miri. And hopefully BioWare sees this.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 août 2011 - 07:09 .


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That attitude sort of flabbergasts me. My first fannish love will always be live theatre, so the idea that a role can only be played by one actor is foreign. And game VAs are recast often enough that I don't really raise an eyebrow at that either. Strahovski's okay, but I'd do my best to judge a new VA on its own merits.

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jtav wrote...

That attitude sort of flabbergasts me. My first fannish love will always be live theatre, so the idea that a rp;e can only be played by one actor is foreign. And game VAs are recast often enough that I don't really raise an eyebrow at that either. Strahobski's okay, but I'd do my best to judge a new VA on its own merits.



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Mr Plow wrote...

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No need.
It's her opinion, I just don't agree.

I consider Yvonne's voice and acting as part of the character.

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Yannkee wrote...

Mr Plow wrote...

*protects jtav with a biotic bubble to deflect incoming fire*


No need.
It's her opinion, I just don't agree.

I consider Yvonne's voice and acting as part of the character.


This.

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Yannkee wrote...

I consider Yvonne's voice and acting as part of the character.


Me too, it would be a little jarring to have someone else do it. BUT I'm 90% sure she will be back to do VO for Miranda.

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I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled after and voiced by Yvonne.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 14 août 2011 - 07:24 .


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Yannkee wrote...

Mr Plow wrote...

*protects jtav with a biotic bubble to deflect incoming fire*


No need.
It's her opinion, I just don't agree.

I consider Yvonne's voice and acting as part of the character.


This

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

I consider Yvonne's voice and acting as part of the character.


Me too, it would be a little jarring to have someone else do it. BUT I'm 90% sure she will be back to do VO for Miranda.


I sincerely hope so.

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jtav wrote...
That attitude sort of flabbergasts me. My first fannish love will always be live theatre, so the idea that a rp;e can only be played by one actor is foreign. And game VAs are recast often enough that I don't really raise an eyebrow at that either. Strahobski's okay, but I'd do my best to judge a new VA on its own merits.

This. It's Miranda that concerns me, not so much her VA. It would likely be jarring if Strahovski got replaced, but there are worse things. Miranda as a damsel in distress would be infinitely worse.

I don't think either of that will happen.

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ViSeirA wrote...

I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled and voiced by Yvonne.


We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

But the fact is we don't consider that Miranda is the same character if they change the VA.

Modifié par Yannkee, 14 août 2011 - 07:27 .


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Yannkee wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled and voiced by Yvonne.


We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

But the fact is we don't consider that Miranda is the same character if they change the VA.


This. We are only saying our own opinion. And Yann is correct. We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

Miri wouldn't be Miri withut Yvonne.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 août 2011 - 07:30 .


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Vertigo_1 wrote...

BUT I'm 90% sure she will be back to do VO for Miranda.


The 10% still worry me, but I trust Bioware would not make this mistake.

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Yannkee wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled and voiced by Yvonne.


We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

But the fact is we don't consider that Miranda is the same character if they change the VA.


Exactly, because she wouldn't be. It's not just the personality that makes the character, it's the voice and looks as well.. If they decided to have someone as one of her possible ''twins'' then I'd be okey with it, in case Miranda died for example. Still I wouldn't buy the game, due to lack of Miri, but I'd accept that new character.

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I hope they will do a proper face for her this time around.

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Arppis wrote...

I hope they will do a proper face for her this time around.


Yeah, they didn't do as great a job of face scanning her in ME2 like they did with Sheploo.

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Yannkee wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled and voiced by Yvonne.


We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

But the fact is we don't consider that Miranda is the same character if they change the VA.


Sorry, you just contradicted yourself ... maybe it's not the only thing defining her character to you but it sure sounds like the most prominent trait, considering you said if they changed her VA it'll be like she's not in the game.

I'd like it very much if Yvonne is still her VA (let's face it, she most likely is) but if it ever changed she'd still be Miranda to me, I never consider a character a good one in mediums like Anime or Games if it's too dependent on its VA, fortunately for me Miranda is not, at least that's how I see it.

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ViSeirA wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled and voiced by Yvonne.


We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

But the fact is we don't consider that Miranda is the same character if they change the VA.


Sorry, you just contradicted yourself ... maybe it's not the only thing defining her character to you but it sure sounds like the most prominent trait, considering you said if they changed her VA it'll be like she's not in the game.

I'd like it very much if Yvonne is still her VA (let's face it, she most likely is) but if it ever changed she'd still be Miranda to me, I never consider a character a good one in mediums like Anime or Games if it's too dependent on its VA, fortunately for me Miranda is not, at least that's how I see it.


No he didn't. Face and voice are part of the package that makes Miri, if the package isn't complete, then it's not Miri.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

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@Filuto:
If I may repeat what is known so far:

(1) Miranda will be in ME3 if she survived ME2 (Casey Hudson)
(2) Her romance will have some kind of resolution (Casey Hudson)
(3) She will have "several scenes" (Mac Walters said he was going to review several scenes with her)


You forgot this one

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/68760009797943297
Miranda will be in #ME3 of course. In what role, I won't spoil that. I hope she's okay though... :P

DUN DUN DUN!
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CASY HUDSON! I am coming for you :D but seriously he better be just teasing or i will assume contorol !

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ViSeirA wrote...

Sorry, you just contradicted yourself ... maybe it's not the only thing defining her character to you but it sure sounds like the most prominent trait, considering you said if they changed her VA it'll be like she's not in the game.


No, I'm not.
I never said it's the most prominent trait. To me, it's one of the trait that define her character.

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Melrache wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I'll have to agree with jtav on this, I love Yvonne as Miranda's VA but I'd have loved Scarlett Johansson or Emmanuelle Vaugier just the same, point is Miranda is her own character mostly because of the way the writers' made her character not just because she's modeled and voiced by Yvonne.


We never said that her voice and her face is the only thing that define her character.

But the fact is we don't consider that Miranda is the same character if they change the VA.


Sorry, you just contradicted yourself ... maybe it's not the only thing defining her character to you but it sure sounds like the most prominent trait, considering you said if they changed her VA it'll be like she's not in the game.

I'd like it very much if Yvonne is still her VA (let's face it, she most likely is) but if it ever changed she'd still be Miranda to me, I never consider a character a good one in mediums like Anime or Games if it's too dependent on its VA, fortunately for me Miranda is not, at least that's how I see it.


No he didn't. Face and voice are part of the package that makes Miri, if the package isn't complete, then it's not Miri.


And that'd be true if it was a movie.

Example: I won't watch the new Transformers movie, why? because Megan Fox is not in it, I'm no fan by any means but changing a central character like hers breaks the movie for me.

In the game I don't think Miranda is Yvonne or vice versa, making the distinction between the character and its VA is important, the character != its VA by any means even it went as far as being modeled after him/her.