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[Dr. Doctor]

jtav wrote...

As for why I prefer the Renegade path, perhaps the difference can be summed up in two lines. "I don't have what you have" vs. "I do damned good work. Renegade Miranda is prouder of her gifts and puts herself down less often. Paragonning Miranda emphasizes what she has in common with others. Renegading her emphasizes what sets her apart. As someone who actively fears Miranda becoming something like the heroine of certain romance novels who discovers what she really wants isn't her high-powered career, but a husband and baby, I'm picking Renegade.

I can't really see Shepard and Miranda getting married or settling down in the traditional sense. They're both career people Shepard regardless of background has been with the Alliance most of his life, and Miranda's work as a Cerberus Agent is what's defined her since she fled her father. My personal Shepard at least held the belief that he was probably going to die serving the Alliance and I get the feeling that Cerberus doesn't offer a retirement plan.

To both of them 'a normal life' is what civilians lead, and I think that even if Shepard has the option to bring up settling down in ME3 Miranda will just tell him to focus on the task at hand. Whereas the "marriage, old age, and lots of little blue children" line fits the Liara romance, I can't see a similar one working with Miranda.

[Ieldra]

The problem with Miranda's Paragon/Renegade romance conversation 2 is this:

You can't avoid that she puts herself down in one segment of the conversation. Either you get "I don't have what you do -- that fire that makes someone willing to follow you into hell itself. My father got me the best genes money could buy. Guess it wasn't enough." or you get "And you've done more than I could. Despite everything my father did to make me perfect, you're... you're the best humanity has to offer."

I don't like any of these options - I'd prefer it if she admired him without comparing herself unfavorably to him. Both versions have their upsides - the Paragon avoids the cheesy "You're the best humanity has to offer" while the Renegade is more understandable in her admiration. "No! I'm just impressed. You're... well, look at you. A kid from the slums of Earth, no family, little formal education... And you've done more than I could."

The important point is that if you later choose "You're jealous" and then the kiss, that putting herself down is balanced out to a certain degree by her expressing confidence with "I'm the one who put you back together remember? And I do damn good work."

Also I like the general impression of challenge between the two in the Renegade romance.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 août 2011 - 07:44 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

If only there was a kiss with the Paragon path as well. During this part::

Miri: "And Perhaps I wouldn't mind if you admired my body.":wub:

Shepard: "You wouldn't, huh?"

Miri: "I think I can live with it."

Then Miri and Shep kiss. Then Miri pushes Shep back slightly.

Miri: "Shepard, wait. I..I have to think about this."

Shepard: "Scared Miss Lawson?"

Miri: "Cautious, Commander Shepard. But interested, very interested...."

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 août 2011 - 07:49 .

[jtav]

For whatever reason "I don't have what you have" drives me nuts in a way "You're the best humanity has to offer" doesn't. As for settling down, call it a paranoid/uncharitable reading of her dossier. That what she really wants are clothes, a man, and a baby. If she ends up pregnant, Alex is finding someone new in ME3.

[MisterJB]

"imagines Miranda demanding child support" Naaaah.

Modifié par MisterJB, 15 août 2011 - 08:01 .

[Dr. Doctor]

"Perhaps I wouldn't mind if you admired my body" just seems like an awkward line to me, it's up there with Shepard's "Oh I'm definitely interested" line.

I for one am looking forward to some squad banter between Miranda and the rest of the party in ME3:

The squad in pinned down by a Cerberus Atlas mech

Shepard: Cerberus has giant robots? How come we didn't have giant robots?

Miranda: The budget didn't leave much room for luxuries!

Shepard: Leather seating it important but a giant robot is considered a luxury?!

Miranda: (throwing a grenade) I tell you what, if you don't break this one you can have it!

[jtav]

You know what I mean. I really don't want Shepard to have kids.

@Dr. Doctor That's hilarious.

Modifié par jtav, 15 août 2011 - 08:06 .

[Caihn]

MisterJB wrote...

"imagines Miranda demanding child support" Naaaah.

I'm not asking for mariage or children, but I can imagine such things happen. There is nothing in the game that prove that Miranda would not want a normal life after the events of ME3. And if it's well writen, I wouldn't mind to see such an end for Miranda.
All I want is an happy ending for Miranda and Shepard. No heroic sacrifice or dramatic choices.

[paul165]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Shepard: Cerberus has giant robots? How come we didn't have giant robots?

Fantastic! Do want this as squad banter

[jtrook]

Some might not like this but I think Shepard dying at the end would be pretty well written and we later found our love interest of choice (except Kaidan but who knows about the future) would have a child. It would be a decent way of introducing a new series but that is just me.

[MisterJB]

jtrook wrote...

Some might not like this but I think Shepard dying at the end would be pretty well written and we later found our love interest of choice (except Kaidan but who knows about the future) would have a child.

Soooo...when is Jacob due?

[enayasoul]

I hope there is an option for those that want it. Marriage and kids. My maleShep wants Miranda's hand in marriage and fullfill her wish of having a baby together. However it is preferrably Miri getting her wish. That's just my opinion of what I would want. I know others do not. That's fine. It still should be an option for the players.

[jtav]

No, no no! One: Tali/Shep is a sterile union and mist be.. Two: FemShep exists. How would you propose a child be dealt with there? Three: It's unbearably cheesy. Four: A child with Liara would be an entirely different species from any other possible combination. Too many variables.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

enayasoul wrote...

I hope there is an option for those that want it. Marriage and kids. My maleShep wants Miranda's hand in marriage and fullfill her wish of having a baby together. However it is preferrably Miri getting her wish. That's just my opinion of what I would want. I know others do not. That's fine. It still should be an option for the players.

I want to have Marriage and Children with Miri. I'm hoping to see this. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 août 2011 - 09:27 .

[Caihn]

jtrook wrote...

Some might not like this but I think Shepard dying at the end would be pretty well written and we later found our love interest of choice (except Kaidan but who knows about the future) would have a child. It would be a decent way of introducing a new series but that is just me.

I don't understand why Shepard has to die in this scenario.

[Caihn]

enayasoul wrote...
I hope there is an option for those that want it.

Yes it would be the best solution.

[enayasoul]

I really hope Shepard doesn't die. That will be terrible! Do not like! And the whole reaper parts in him is pretty dumb and cheesy in my opinion.

Modifié par enayasoul, 15 août 2011 - 09:39 .

[Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz]

Iam pretty sure, that Shepard will die in one of the endings. 

[jtav]

Almost certain, though I'm equally certain it'll be optional. Just don't force me into marriage and kids. If I wanted that, there are others who can provide. I like Miranda as she is now, thanks.

[Caihn]

Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz wrote...

Iam pretty sure, that Shepard will die in one of the endings. 

As long as we have the choice.

But I don't want to have to choose between Shepard and the LI. If it happens, I would not let Miranda die, but I hate this kind of end.

[Caihn]

Miranda is not defined as a character who doesn't want marriage and kids.

Modifié par Yannkee, 15 août 2011 - 09:48 .

[Filuto]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

I hope there is an option for those that want it. Marriage and kids. My maleShep wants Miranda's hand in marriage and fullfill her wish of having a baby together. However it is preferrably Miri getting her wish. That's just my opinion of what I would want. I know others do not. That's fine. It still should be an option for the players.

I want to have Marriage and Children with Miri. I'm hoping to see this. 

agree.... i do not understand how somebody could be so against children an i would like hear your opinions why you dont want kids. It is  because it is cliche? But what is not a cliche? Something like miranda and shep walking toward the sunset? Or just  victory at the end of the game and shep kissing miri? I  think everything was seen in movies games etc. imo only non cliche ending is if reapers will win. Shepard is just a human he will not live forever so i think he should have kids to carry on his legacy.... but of course there could  just solve miri infertility issue and give us positive romance ending and left rest of the story to our imagination.

Modifié par Filuto, 15 août 2011 - 09:50 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I don't want Miri to die, end of story. 

I want a happy Ending with her. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 août 2011 - 09:50 .

[Caihn]

Filuto wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

I hope there is an option for those that want it. Marriage and kids. My maleShep wants Miranda's hand in marriage and fullfill her wish of having a baby together. However it is preferrably Miri getting her wish. That's just my opinion of what I would want. I know others do not. That's fine. It still should be an option for the players.

I want to have Marriage and Children with Miri. I'm hoping to see this. 

agree.... i do not understand how somebody could be so against children an i would like hear your opinions why you dont want kids. It is  because it is cliche? But what is not a cliche? Something like miranda and shep walking toward the sunset? Or just  victory at the end of the game and shep kissing miri? I  think everything was seen in movies games etc. imo only non cliche ending is if reapers will win. Shepard is just a human he will not live forever so i think he should have kids to carry on his legacy.... but of course there could  just solve miri infertility issue and give us positive romance ending and left rest of the story to our imagination.

Personally, if they want kids, I would prefer the solution of the adoption.

[jtrook]

I was kidding about the child thing. Having Shepard die in my thoughts would let them end his story in a fashion that can tie up most of the loose ends but mostly because him dead won't let them butcher his story but I think a decent happy ending could work too.