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[Filuto]

@ yannkee why not that is option to and it would brake concept of perfect happy ending but more like real world (you dont get everything you want) but i am more incline to my version  

Damn i just had an idea call me a crazy but what you think of this.... Let say Miri is cured and Shepard does not know they make during the me3 and at the end of game shep will die but miri will find out that she  is pregnant... so hero is dead but his legacy will carry on. So what you think to cheesy?

Modifié par Filuto, 15 août 2011 - 10:09 .

[ViSeiRa]

I for one hope if the infertility issue is actually canon that it cannot be cured, that way Miranda can actually reach the rationalization of "If this "flaw" is the result of my genetic make up then maybe my accomplishments are all truly mine and these genetics just gave me a headstart".

So here's +1 for adoption, or no kids at all, let us imagine that kind of ending without imposing it on any of us. 

[Caihn]

Filuto wrote...
Damn i just had an idea call me a crazy but what you think of this.... Let say Miri is cured and Shepard does not know they make during the me3 and at the end of game shep will die but miri will find out that she  is pregnant... so hero is dead but his legacy will carry on. So what you think to cheesy?

Well it's the fact that it's cheesy ... I would prefer an ending with Shepard and Miranda alive and together (with or without a child), rather than Miranda alone with a child.

Modifié par Yannkee, 15 août 2011 - 10:17 .

[jtav]

I wouldn't be averse to a genuine medical cure much, but having an unplanned pregancy would make me furious. Apart from that, I don't want kids, and will be heading for the nearest sexually incompatible alien if I'm stuck with them. I'm hoping that 3/6 being aliens means I won't be stuck.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I don't want to see Miri and myself dead.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Mass Effect takes place in a world where a person can be brought back from the dead with nothing more than a rib and three pounds of meat held together with a tendon than I'm sure curing infertility is a trivial matter.

Modifié par ISpeakTheTruth, 15 août 2011 - 10:32 .

[enayasoul]

Oh I am sure they can cure whatever problem Miranda is facing. It's very vague and leaves a lot to what it could be. It could be bad intel for all we know!

I think if Miranda and Mordin worked together they could find the cause and cure it medically together. I for one hope Miranda and my maleshep "Jon" have a happy ending, damn it!

Modifié par enayasoul, 15 août 2011 - 10:39 .

[MisterJB]

Simply finding a cure would make me wonder what was the point of the whole thing. Normal pregnancy or creating a child like Miranda herself was created would allow for much more character development.
If it comes to that, I hope the cure will come at a high cost; for example, dealing with Mr. Lawson.

Modifié par MisterJB, 15 août 2011 - 10:48 .

[enayasoul]

MisterJB wrote...

Simply finding a cure would make me wonder what was the point of the whole thing. Normal pregnancy or creating a child like Miranda herself was created would allow for much more character development.
If it comes to that, I hope the cure will come at a high cost; for example, dealing with Mr. Lawson.

So what your saying is that there was nothing wrong with Miranda and it just happened to happen? Not necessary a miracle or anything.  Maybe the data was misinterpreted?  The doctor was wrong? 

I think having Miranda come to terms with "the problems" in having a normal pregnancy would be good.  How does a biotic woman have a "normal" birth?  The fear of the child becoming cancerous because of eezo?  Biotics do have a lot of food intake requirments and being pregnant does have its own demands on the body.

Character development and growth could occur if she couldn't have it naturally and she came to terms with the alternatives... 

Yeah, I suspect dealing with Mr. Lawson at some point would be good.   

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I bet Mr. Lawson knows how to get rid of Miri's Infertility. Well, if so, I'm going to have to beat it out of him if necessary.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 août 2011 - 11:00 .

[Dr. Doctor]

I don't think I want a clear ending to ME3. Dragon Age 2 in my opinion had one of my favorite endings in a Bioware game. Yes it acted as a staging device for a next installment but there's something I like about having the hero leaving with their LI to continue on to new adventures.

On the subject of infertility, I don't really think that there needs to be a cure. Science in the ME universe can bring people back from the dead, cure genetic disease, and allow people to explore the galaxy. But if everything can be hand-waved away with some sort of technobabble then the story loses some of it's drama.

If there is the case where Shepard and Miranda wanted to start a family I think that adoption would be an almost poetic option. Shepard, depending on his background either never knew his parents, had them slaughtered by Batarians, or was with them on constantly changing shipboard assignments. Miranda had a family that consisted of Mr. Lawson, and later on TIM and Cerberus. Having the chance to give a child a shot at a good childhood might appeal to the two of them.

Plus after that scene with the kid in the air ducts during the E3 trailer for ME3 I don't even want to think about what happens to millions of kids during the Reaper War.

[drwells123]

jtav wrote...

No, no no! One: Tali/Shep is a sterile union and mist be.. Two: FemShep exists. How would you propose a child be dealt with there? Three: It's unbearably cheesy. Four: A child with Liara would be an entirely different species from any other possible combination. Too many variables.

Eh, there's over a thousand variables going into ME3 already. I'd like this in there for those of us that want it - that certainly
doesn't mean everyone has to do it. Sort of like the boon you can choose
at the end of DA.

FemShep and Miranda could adopt an orphan, which I'm sure the war is going to leave plenty of. Or else medical science of 2183 ought to be able to synthesize an egg that has both their genetic material and FemShep could carry it.

Liara's kid is going to be an asari no matter what so that's pretty simple.

[Contalion]

Just want to chime in and say I totally want and support both having one of the game's endings be a remotely happy one for Shepard (along the lines of damn, we lost half the galaxy, but at least my LI, close friends, and I made it), and I also like the idea of having the option of "epilogue children". Or maybe having your LI and Shepard (if compatible) finding out they are expecting right before the end....would add a whole nother dimension of emotion to whether they both live or die....

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I just took this screenshot. It feels GREAT to hold Miri in my arms.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 août 2011 - 02:55 .

[Jestina]

I can't really see the Cerberus cheerleader defecting but I guess anything is possible. If there is an option to keep her, there should also be an option to put a bullet through her head.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

MisterJB wrote...

Simply finding a cure would make me wonder what was the point of the whole thing. Normal pregnancy or creating a child like Miranda herself was created would allow for much more character development.
If it comes to that, I hope the cure will come at a high cost; for example, dealing with Mr. Lawson.

It was added to show us how badly Miranda feels about her origins. Think about what her life is like because of what her father did. She doesn't even have a mother, just some messed up stuff Mr. Lawson did to remove a second parent from the equation. Then her life growing up was nothing more than a lab experiment to see if she was the perfect creation that he was looking for. Then she finds out that he's going to do the same thing to another life and she abandons her home to save that child from the same fate. Then to add insult to injury having ever part of her life being ruined by her father up until her escape she learns that she can't have a child... She's been denied everything in her life.

She wants to have one thing in her life that's normal. Looking for a cure and finding one/not finding one will have a big impact on her character.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I sincerely hope that BioWare is placing Miri's Infertility as part of her story in ME3.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

It would have to be a part of her story... otherwise why would they bring it up in the first place?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yeah. It's something BioWare cannot pretend it didn't happen. Who knows how the conversation about it will be like, and when?

[enayasoul]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Simply finding a cure would make me wonder what was the point of the whole thing. Normal pregnancy or creating a child like Miranda herself was created would allow for much more character development.
If it comes to that, I hope the cure will come at a high cost; for example, dealing with Mr. Lawson.

It was added to show us how badly Miranda feels about her origins. Think about what her life is like because of what her father did. She doesn't even have a mother, just some messed up stuff Mr. Lawson did to remove a second parent from the equation. Then her life growing up was nothing more than a lab experiment to see if she was the perfect creation that he was looking for. Then she finds out that he's going to do the same thing to another life and she abandons her home to save that child from the same fate. Then to add insult to injury having ever part of her life being ruined by her father up until her escape she learns that she can't have a child... She's been denied everything in her life.

She wants to have one thing in her life that's normal. Looking for a cure and finding one/not finding one will have a big impact on her character.

Exactly what I see as well.  

Miranda gave Oriana a new life, a family that loves her and freedom to choose her own path.  Miranda in a way didn't have that growing up.  Always pushed to meet possible demands... someone else's wishes and demands. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I want to see Miri happy. I want to have a happy ending with her. Living a normal life with her after the war.

Miri is my only love in Mass Effect, and I hope that there is some type of reward. 

Hopefully the Reunion seen is Touching, Emotional (in a Good Way), and Very Romantic. 

I hope she becomes Permanent during the course of the game. If we have to save her, I will do everything in my power to save her. Though if she is captured, I can also see her escaping on her own. Then when we arrive and save her, we are reunited with her, when she takes out Cerberus troops ready to kill you, then she tells us that we are late.
Can you see a possibility that Miri saves us? 

I hope that the Romance scene will be Touching , Emotional, and Very Romantic . 

I want the Romance with Beloved Miri to grow Deeper and Emotional. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 août 2011 - 03:52 .

[pj179]

Does everyone want Miranda to have a baby at the end? Maybe I'm alone in thinking that won't happen, and that it'll be a bittersweet ending for the Shepard/Miranda relationship. Because of her genetic modifications, she's already guaranteed to outlive Shepard, meaning she will have to go through that heartache either way. But maybe having a baby will make that better?

Still, I don't think we'll be seeing Miranda with a pregnant belly at the end of the game.

[Ieldra]

pj179 wrote...
Does everyone want Miranda to have a baby at the end? Maybe I'm alone in thinking that won't happen, and that it'll be a bittersweet ending for the Shepard/Miranda relationship. Because of her genetic modifications, she's already guaranteed to outlive Shepard, meaning she will have to go through that heartache either way. But maybe having a baby will make that better?

Still, I don't think we'll be seeing Miranda with a pregnant belly at the end of the game.

I certainly hope not.

I want her infertility to be cured or circumvented by technology (through artificial gametogenesis, IVF and/or artificial wombs if necessary), so that I can imagine Miranda will be able to pass on her gifts in some of my timelines. But I don't want that to actually happen, I just want their after-the-Reapers story to canonically have that option. I also prefer that "technological" solution to a natural one, because I want the message sent by the infertility countered and it would be a sign that she has made peace with her origins. 

As for adoption, I know it's not politically correct to say that, but it's not the same. Even more for a woman like Miranda.

I think it would be best to have the hint that curing/circumventing it is possible as a conversation option and leave the rest to the player's imagination.
 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 16 août 2011 - 05:01 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I think it might be up in the air about who is going to outlive who in that relationship. Remember Miranda was created with technology that is decades older than what they have now. And the tech they used to bring Shepard back has made him far stronger than he was before and if 4 billion dollars was pumped into his body I bet they wanted to make sure he lived as long as possible.

I think its far to say that Shepard will easily live to be as old as Miranda is capable of living if not longer.

[jtrook]

Off topic but in support of Miri. I played a no romance play through in ME2(first time ever) And it absolutely sucked! back to the subject. Miranda having a kid would be interesting. It would give us a chance to see her compassionate side outside of Shepard and her sister. On the who will live out who, it just depends on how many times Shepard pisses her off.