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[MisterJB]

I don't think I ever posted this here.
http://imageshack.us...os/683/nrd.mp4/

I had a free afternoon.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

AresXX7 wrote...

@MASSEFFECTfanforlife101

Sounds like you'll be find then, as far as Miri is concerned.
As for the rest, don't sweat the small stuff, it still sounds like you'll have a positive experience.

Even with jack out of the picture?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 01:43 .

[jtav]

That's a great graphic.

I wonder what Miranda's "best outcome" will be and how it will be achieved? I'm also very optimistic on her squadmate chances, though I don't expect to hear anything for several months. (Optimism from me? The end is nigh?)

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

I don't think I ever posted this here.
http://imageshack.us...os/683/nrd.mp4/

I had a free afternoon.

I have to do that.<3<3<3<3

[Chrislo1990]

jtav wrote...

That's a great graphic.

I wonder what Miranda's "best outcome" will be and how it will be achieved? I'm also very optimistic on her squadmate chances, though I don't expect to hear anything for several months. (Optimism from me? The end is nigh?)

You really think Miranda will be squadmate again jtav? I REALLy hope so lol. Just curious what is drving you optimism of this happening? did you read something somewhere? I"d appreciate it if you shered your reasoning behind the optimism.

[jtav]

40% of our enemies are Cerberus. They're a huge part of the game. Miranda is connected to Cerberus. Therefore she has a strong connection to major plot thread and a large role is justified. Am I 100% certain? No. But I'm confident.

[MisterJB]

Miranda is one of the most popular squadmates and LIs. She has enormous protagonism in ME2. Is the hardest squadmate to kill. Her backstory has tons of untapped potential. Cerberus is going to be a major enemy in ME3 and who better to help Shepard against it than Miranda? Yvonne Strahovski was nominated for her Voicework.

[Chrislo1990]

Thanks jtav and MisterJB really appreciate the info. I hope Yvonne does come back to voice Miranda again. Been searching around the net and people don't seem to be too optimistic of her return return though. What do you guys think?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I try to be optimistic, but the lack of news about Miri CONSTANTLY makes me feel vert uneasy.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 02:42 .

[jtav]

I don't see any reason why she wouldn't come back. They'll say something when they're ready. Just a little perspective: Anders was announced two months before the game's release. Garrus (as opposed to Archangel) was never announced. So we're likely in for a long wait.

[YoCalio]

MisterJB wrote...

I don't think I ever posted this here.
http://imageshack.us...os/683/nrd.mp4/

I had a free afternoon.

Haha, I can see that!

Very cute

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

UGH I feel like I have no choice but to keep jack alive AND loyal (no offense to fans).

Even if ONE person dies or is not loyal. it could lead to unfortunate events in ME3. >____<

It's driving me crazy. >____<



*sigh*........On the other hand, everyone loyal and alive would probably lead to fortunate events in ME3. 100% survival makes me feel like a Hero in ME2.

....but when you resolve the conflict between Miri and jack.... you tell them to not let their personal feelings get in the way. I'm afraid that saying this would make me feel like a hypocrite because of the feelings I have for Miri.

Could someone help. 

Is what Shepard says to resolve the conflict ONLY toward their dislike for each other? Or is it for other feelings as well? 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 05:10 .

[Ieldra]

If you lose Miranda's loyalty here, the romance gets closed off. So either side with Miranda or use one of the persuasion options. Use your own interpretation of what Shepard says.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Ieldra2 wrote...

If you lose Miranda's loyalty here, the romance gets closed off. So either side with Miranda or use one of the persuasion options. Use your own interpretation of what Shepard says.

I wasn't talking about losing Miri's loyalty. I would NEVER. She is MY LI.

I'm talking about losing jack's loyalty or resolving.

[mereck7980]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

UGH I feel like I have no choice but to keep jack alive AND loyal (no offense to fans).

Even if ONE person dies or is not loyal. it could lead to unfortunate events in ME3. >____<

It's driving me crazy. >____<



*sigh*........On the other hand, everyone loyal and alive would probably lead to fortunate events in ME3. 100% survival makes me feel like a Hero in ME2.

....but when you resolve the conflict between Miri and jack.... you tell them to not let their personal feelings get in the way. I'm afraid that saying this would make me feel like a hypocrite because of the feelings I have for Miri.

Could someone help. 

Is what Shepard says to resolve the conflict ONLY toward their dislike for each other? Or is it for other feelings as well? 

Think about it this way, sometimes love isn't all about saying sweet things and romance.  Sometimes love is about preventing someone you love from making a bad mistake.  As much as we all <3 Miranda she is effectively the XO of the Normandy in ME2 and she should know better than starting a fight with a powerful biotic that could end up possibly causing a hull breach.  So, by breaking up the fight between Miranda and Jack Shepard is stopping Miranda from making a mistake that could jeopardize the lives of the rest of his crew.  With a high enough Para/Rene score you can break up the fight without damaging loyalty and know that your are expressing your love for Miranda by preventing her from making a big mistake. 

Modifié par mereck7980, 20 juin 2011 - 05:34 .

[turian councilor Knockout]

mereck7980 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

UGH I feel like I have no choice but to keep jack alive AND loyal (no offense to fans).

Even if ONE person dies or is not loyal. it could lead to unfortunate events in ME3. >____<

It's driving me crazy. >____<



*sigh*........On the other hand, everyone loyal and alive would probably lead to fortunate events in ME3. 100% survival makes me feel like a Hero in ME2.

....but when you resolve the conflict between Miri and jack.... you tell them to not let their personal feelings get in the way. I'm afraid that saying this would make me feel like a hypocrite because of the feelings I have for Miri.

Could someone help. 

Is what Shepard says to resolve the conflict ONLY toward their dislike for each other? Or is it for other feelings as well? 

Think about it this way, sometimes love isn't all about saying sweet things and romance.  Sometimes love is about preventing someone you love from making a bad mistake.  As much as we all <3 Miranda she is effectively the XO of the Normandy in ME2 and she should know better than starting a fight with a powerful biotic that could end up possibly causing a hull breach.  So, by breaking up the fight between Miranda and Jack Shepard is stopping Miranda from making a mistake that could jeopardize the lives of the rest of his crew.  With a high enough Para/Rene score you can break up the fight without damaging loyalty and know that your are expressing your love for Miranda by preventing her from making a big mistake. 

That's a great way to put it

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

mereck7980 wrote...



Think about it this way, sometimes love isn't all about saying sweet things and romance.  Sometimes love is about preventing someone you love from making a bad mistake.  As much as we all <3 Miranda she is effectively the XO of the Normandy in ME2 and she should know better than starting a fight with a powerful biotic that could end up possibly causing a hull breach.  So, by breaking up the fight between Miranda and Jack Shepard is stopping Miranda from making a mistake that could jeopardize the lives of the rest of his crew.  With a high enough Para/Rene score you can break up the fight without damaging loyalty and know that your are expressing your love for Miranda by preventing her from making a big mistake. 

I know that. I did that all the time. I just don't want to feel like a hypocrite. Because I resolve the conversation by telling then to put their personal feelings aside. Yet I <3<3<3<3 Miri.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 05:38 .

[turian councilor Knockout]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

mereck7980 wrote...



Think about it this way, sometimes love isn't all about saying sweet things and romance.  Sometimes love is about preventing someone you love from making a bad mistake.  As much as we all <3 Miranda she is effectively the XO of the Normandy in ME2 and she should know better than starting a fight with a powerful biotic that could end up possibly causing a hull breach.  So, by breaking up the fight between Miranda and Jack Shepard is stopping Miranda from making a mistake that could jeopardize the lives of the rest of his crew.  With a high enough Para/Rene score you can break up the fight without damaging loyalty and know that your are expressing your love for Miranda by preventing her from making a big mistake. 

I know that. I did that all the time. I just don't want to feel like a hypocrite. Because I resolve the conversation by telling then to put their personal feelings aside. Yet I <3<3<3<3 Miri.

How can you be a hypocrite ? you tell Jack and Miri to stay away from each other so their dislike don't come in the way of the mission

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 20 juin 2011 - 05:41 .

[mereck7980]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

mereck7980 wrote...



Think about it this way, sometimes love isn't all about saying sweet things and romance.  Sometimes love is about preventing someone you love from making a bad mistake.  As much as we all <3 Miranda she is effectively the XO of the Normandy in ME2 and she should know better than starting a fight with a powerful biotic that could end up possibly causing a hull breach.  So, by breaking up the fight between Miranda and Jack Shepard is stopping Miranda from making a mistake that could jeopardize the lives of the rest of his crew.  With a high enough Para/Rene score you can break up the fight without damaging loyalty and know that your are expressing your love for Miranda by preventing her from making a big mistake. 

I know that. I did that all the time. I just don't want to feel like a hypocrite. Because I resolve the conversation by telling then to put their personal feelings aside. Yet I <3<3<3<3 Miri.

I think that after you break up the fight with a Para/Rene response Miri actually thanks you for stepping in right?  She realizes that she let things get out of hand with Jack and she knows that Shepard's intervention wasn't a negative reflection on her.  So, I don't really think you have to feel hypocritical about making that call.  What would Miranda do if Shepard was fighting with Jack?  Probably either the same thing or she could be even harsher than Shepard is.  

[Juls1616]

jtav wrote...

40% of our enemies are Cerberus. They're a huge part of the game. Miranda is connected to Cerberus. Therefore she has a strong connection to major plot thread and a large role is justified. Am I 100% certain? No. But I'm confident.

I agree MIranda is going play an important part, especially now that she quit Cerberus and probably has some unfinished business with the Illusive Man

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

So the feelings I have for Beloved Miri and the feelings Miri and Jack have against each other are NOT in the same category to be put aside?

It was ONLY the feelings Miri and jack have against each other that were told to be put aside?

It didn't have anything to do with other feelings like the Romantic Connection growing between Miri and I?

OK....phew^_^

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 05:49 .

[mereck7980]

Juls1616 wrote...

jtav wrote...

40% of our enemies are Cerberus. They're a huge part of the game. Miranda is connected to Cerberus. Therefore she has a strong connection to major plot thread and a large role is justified. Am I 100% certain? No. But I'm confident.

I agree MIranda is going play an important part, especially now that she quit Cerberus and probably has some unfinished business with the Illusive Man

She will have a signifigant role in the game given her connection to Cerberus, the question is will her role = permenant squadmate? And if she will be a permenant part of the crew when will Shepard get to meet her in the game?  A quarter of the way through?  Halfway through? 

[AresXX7]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

UGH I feel like I have no choice but to keep jack alive AND loyal (no offense to fans).

Even if ONE person dies or is not loyal. it could lead to unfortunate events in ME3. >____<

It's driving me crazy. >____<

If you have a save (prior to actually entering the Omega 4 relay).

Try this.

1. Take Jack with you, as one of your squaddies during the Oculus fight (giant sphere in the cargo hold).
     This will keep her safe until you reach the base.
2. Take Jack as one of your crew during both fights through the base. (make sure you use Samara for biotic bubble).
3. Use Jacob/Mordin to escort Dr. Chakwas & the rest of the crew.
4. For the final fight, take Miri & Tali.

If I'm right, Jack should have a high chance of survival with both Garrus & Grunt in the remaining squad. (that you don't take to the final boss fight)

Just make sure you keep that save, in case I'm wrong.
I'm going off memory here, but I did have an earlier playthrough with a disloyal Jack & still kept everyone alive. (I think this is how I did it)

Modifié par AresXX7, 20 juin 2011 - 05:54 .

[mereck7980]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

So the feelings I have for Beloved Miri and the feelings Miri and Jack have against each other are NOT in the same category to be put aside?

It was ONLY the feelings Miri and jack have against each other that were told to be put aside?

It didn't have anything to do with other feelings like the Romantic Connection growing between Miri and I?

I don't think so.  Just because Shepard and Miri are in the process of developing a relationship when this encounter occurs doesn't change the fact that Shepard is responsible for the welfare of the whole ship and its crew.  And Miri knows this as much as Shepard does.  You making a call to break up a fight is in no way a slight against Miranda.  Shepard realizes he needs to step in and if your Para/Rene score is high enough he can do that without picking one crew member over the other.  Group dynamics sometimes require an overt show of equality like this.  The fact that Miri thanks you for stepping in after Jack leaves confirms she understands you aren't coming down on her.  

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

ok