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[jtav]

Miranda, the VS, and Miranda on the same team. I really think I might actually get it.

[Filuto]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Which reminds me. What if you only imported two characters. Say Miri and Garrus. What would happen?

Sounds like ultimate defeat and the Reapers win, don't you think?

I wonder. Likely there aren't many players who import a playthrough with only two survivors, so I can see things going down that road. Or it could just be so much more difficult and requiring many more sacrifices to win.

well thaks to you ieadra and yannkee too i am looking foward to find yout maybe in the future i give my report if you dont want to try it(but somethings tell me you already did).... only thigs bother me though should i kill legion or give him to cerberus ? i know ot but i can not decide.

Modifié par Filuto, 18 août 2011 - 09:24 .

[Ieldra]

@Filuto:
I have a playthrough with three survivors. I was aiming for two (Miranda and Jacob), but back then the hold-the-line calculations were incorrect and Jack (the irony) survived alongside Miranda and Jacob. As for Legion, that would depend on (a) how useful you think it is to study an intact geth, and ( how you stand with Cerberus. The Shepard in that playthrough I mentioned is 100% pro-Cerberus, so of course they got Legion.

@jtav:
I hope so. Shepard, Kaidan and Miranda would be a dream team. And Shepard, Ashley and Miranda would have an infinite potential for banter. *keeps fingers crossed*

[jtav]

Heh, just noticed I said Miranda twice. Forgive me. Cheerfulness makes me stupid.

So, any interest in a tiny snippet?

[Vertigo_1]

Yes

[Filuto]

thanks one simple sentence like : how useful you think it is to study an intact geth and you actually help my decide i will give him to cerberus thats sounds like more fun instead of just killing him

[jtav]

Miranda is 17.

The lecture hall was crowded. Miranda leaned back in her seat and surveyed the see of blue that engulfed her. Asari from every city-state on Thessia attended the University of Serrice, and it felt as if every single one of them had decided to fulfill their Extracurricular Humanities and Culture requirement by hearing Dr. Liara T’Soni speak. They spoke in rapid, hushed tones as they waited for the lecture to start. Miranda’s translator ignored all but the closest, but she’d picked up a few of the more common languages. The words “sex,” “new dress” and “dinner” featured prominently. She sighed. Trapped in her father’s penthouse, she had rarely seen aliens except in vids. The asari were the wise counselors whose careful planning held the rest of the galaxy together. That was why she had suggested Thessia when Cerberus had wanted her to go to school among aliens; she had imagined finding intellectual equals at last, someone with whom she could discuss art or science or something meaningful. But they were talking about the same stupid things the daughters of her father's business associates had talked about on the rare occasions she was allowed to see them.

At long last, Dr. T’Soni walked across the stage. Miranda's eyebrows went up. She looked young for an asari, hardly older than any of the students. So they didn't all spend a century or two frittering away their lives as strippers or mercenaries. Her skin was a rich blue that contrasted nicely with her off-white dress, and her body was lean and fit, as befitted someone who spent their time traipsing around dig sites. And she had facial markings in the shape of eyebrows. Miranda started. It was such an odd, human thing that it had to be a tattoo. She’d heard that some asari had gone mad for all things human after the First Content War. Maybe the doctor was one of them. Miranda chuckled to herself. T’Soni was the creature in the room who looked most like Miranda.

Whatever interest Miranda possessed evaporated as soon as T’Soni opened her mouth. Her voice was soft and quavering. Ideal for putting a crying child to sleep, and ideal for putting anything else to sleep too. Her eyes darted around the room as she spoke, as if she were looking for an escape route. All that was needed to complete the cliché was a slight stutter. Her subject matter was no better. Prothean studies wasn't her field of interest at the best of times, and figuring out what had driven them to extinction was far less important than figuring out how the surviving paleotechnology worked so she and the rest of humanity could catch up with the aliens who had a two thousand year head start. T’Soni recounted all of the usual theories: civil war, plague, environmental disaster. I'm wasting an hour of my life for something I could find in a textbook.

“Many scholars believe that the seeds of destruction were sown right here on Thessia.” T’Soni’s voice broke slightly, each syllable forced from her mouth as if it were bad food. “Surviving data discs indicate that a council of planetary governors met here to plan succession from the Citadel government approximately 50,000 years ago. There's no record of the outcome."

And what do you believe, I wonder? T’Soni’s voice was monotone now, not just soft. Someone who had survived graduate school on the subject ought to be able to muster a little more passion for the subject no matter how bad a public speaker they were. Unless T’Soni didn’t believe what she was saying. Now that was an idea. T’Soni had made no reference to her own theories, only those of others. But why? Miranda's father had sometimes bribed scientists so that their conclusions reflected his business interests. Miranda couldn't imagine anyone doing the same to an archaeologist. The extinction of the Protheans was a mystery, but a long-dead one of limited relevance for anyone living today. So why was T’Soni so unenthusiastic?

Somehow they got through the lecture without anyone erupting into loud snoring, and T’Soni opened the floor for questions. Miranda bit her lip. Dozens of questions flittered around her mind like annoying hummingbirds. She wanted to peel back T’Soni’s defenses and discover what she really thought and why she went to the effort of hiding it. The direct approach wouldn’t get her anything other than thrown out. She had to be sneaky.

No one else had questions. "Anyone?" T’Soni asked. For the first time, there was real emotion in her voice: panic.

Well, if she were that desperate for questions, she was more likely to give honest answers. Miranda raised her hand. "Most human empires had a long period of decline before their eventual fall. But the Protheans seem as if they went from the peak of their power to total extinction almost instantly. Why do you think that is?"

“I—there are a number of possible theories. Sustained orbital bombardment could devastate a large number of planets fairly quickly. If there was a civil war and a large number of dreadnoughts were deployed…" Her smile was tight. Miranda couldn't tell if she was nervous or just patronizing. "Not dissimilar to human doomsday scenarios two centuries ago."

Do you take me for a fool? "That doesn't make any sense. Those fears were over one planet being wiped out, not an interstellar empire."

"Tarin says in his—“

Something hard and icy lodged in Miranda’s throat. Her voice was low and even, the way her father’s was when angry. “Tarin is not here. What do yo think? I presume you’re lecturing because you have ideas of your own?"

[Ieldra]

Oh oh....that's....forward. I can already see the roots of the later Miranda, but she's noticeably younger. Beautiful, jtav. I wonder how Liara will react - or if there will be a murmur in the lecture hall.

[tmoney420]

keep the ass shots and make her ass bigger what are you talking about total sex object barbie doll dominatrix is what they should have her be in me3---on a side note wtf is with Cerberus turning on humans??

[Sepewrath]

I know how Miranda feels, I had to sit through lectures like that, this one about Lobsters was just excruciating. Problem with that, was he was too damn enthusiastic lol.

[Shotokanguy]

Ugh, this discussion about what is out of character or not for Miranda bugs me. I'll again say that I don't feel we got enough time with any of the ME2 characters, and we definitely need more time with Miranda.

Assuming she couldn't have gone over the consequences of giving the base to Cerberus, knowing what she knows about TIM by the end of the game, and taking into account that she has feelings, regardless of what you think she is really like, I find it very shortsighted to proclaim that that Miranda is not the true Miranda. The writers likely still have a much better idea of who she is supposed to be than us, no matter how bad a job you might THINK they're doing/have done.

And it's worse than shortsighted, IMO, to declare that you will kill Miranda ASAP if she is similar in ME3.

[srjepsen]

tmoney420 wrote...

keep the ass shots and make her ass bigger what are you talking about total sex object barbie doll dominatrix is what they should have her be in me3

lmao, now that would make for interesting character development:devil:

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/104357079514488832
"Mac how close are we to getting some info or a screenshot of Miranda?"

"Well I just finished first pass writing on a scene with the lovely Ms. Lawson. One of the most fun/challenging dialogs to date!"

More scenes! More!

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 19 août 2011 - 01:03 .

[RAF1940]

tmoney420 wrote...

keep the ass shots and make her ass bigger what are you talking about total sex object barbie doll dominatrix is what they should have her be in me3

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/104357079514488832
"Mac how close are we to getting some info or a screenshot of Miranda?"

"Well I just finished first pass writing on a scene with the lovely Ms. Lawson. One of the most fun/challenging dialogs to date!"

More scenes! More!

YAY!!!! YES!!!!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 19 août 2011 - 01:10 .

[enayasoul]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/104357079514488832
"Mac how close are we to getting some info or a screenshot of Miranda?"

"Well I just finished first pass writing on a scene with the lovely Ms. Lawson. One of the most fun/challenging dialogs to date!"

More scenes! More!

Sounds good... what could it possibly be!!!!  

These few ideas come to up when plugged into google search...  guidance, decision support, collaborative action, and persuasion. ... ???

[100k]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/104357079514488832
"Mac how close are we to getting some info or a screenshot of Miranda?"

"Well I just finished first pass writing on a scene with the lovely Ms. Lawson. One of the most fun/challenging dialogs to date!"

More scenes! More!

YAY!!!! YES!!!!

God...dat ass...
:o:o

[Td1984]

I fell about 10 pages behind in the thread (hadn't refreshed the tab since yesterday morning, lol). Just finished getting caught up.

It does seem that today we've gotten some apparently good news regarding Miri. Hope it only gets better from here.

Modifié par Td1984, 19 août 2011 - 03:51 .

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

Td1984 wrote...

I fell about 10 pages behind in the thread (hadn't refreshed the tab since yesterday morning, lol). Just finished getting caught up.

It does seem that today we've gotten some apparently good news regarding Miri. Hope it only gets better from here.

As did I, I didn't know this thread moved that fast. XD

Modifié par LexieTheT-Rexy, 19 août 2011 - 04:15 .

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

Yannkee wrote...

LexieTheT-Rexy wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

LexieTheT-Rexy wrote...

I do agree it was rushed though. I'm hoping with how far back they pushed the game they'll have more time to review all of the character development, and not just work on getting all the bug out.

I don't think it was rushed. She is very professional, and she doesn't have to express her doubts in front of Shepard before that.
The character develoment is subtile, but it is there.
That's why she only do this if you pick her for the final mission. You can have her resignation scene only because she's talking with the Illusive Man, it's not Shepard's concern.

And it's also why I think she will resigned even if you don't pick her for the final mission. Maybe there will be an explaination at the begining of ME3, but personally I don't need one.

Once more, a very good point.

I like Miranda because she's a complex character. I like her character development, and the different aspects of her personality we can see all along the game.
I hope to see all these aspects again in ME3.

See, I do too. Like I've said before, many people think she is a shallow character, but that's because they only see her obsession with her perfection and not the egomanical/abusive father that pushed that upon her, and the vulnerability that consumes her which she covers up with her cool exterior. I myself find that angle in people very interesting.

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

OzzyMcRcky wrote...

Honest to god, if Miranda isn't a main squad member I am going to do a total vader turn. I'm going renegade and destroying the galaxy. People won't be fearing the reapers, they'll be fearing Shepard !

Me too. I said this in the car with my friends today, while explaining the game to them. I told them that if Miri isn't a LI/Squadmate, Earth can just suck it, and let the Reapers have their fun. XD

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/104357079514488832
"Mac how close are we to getting some info or a screenshot of Miranda?"

"Well I just finished first pass writing on a scene with the lovely Ms. Lawson. One of the most fun/challenging dialogs to date!"

More scenes! More!

Finally he's talking about her!

I was starting to fear that I wasn't going to hear anything until the game was released.

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

Personally, my favorite screenshot.

Modifié par LexieTheT-Rexy, 19 août 2011 - 04:13 .

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

Also found this worth appreciating. I absolutely love that little smirk.

Modifié par LexieTheT-Rexy, 19 août 2011 - 04:25 .