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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

AresXX7 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

UGH I feel like I have no choice but to keep jack alive AND loyal (no offense to fans).

Even if ONE person dies or is not loyal. it could lead to unfortunate events in ME3. >____<

It's driving me crazy. >____<

If you have a save (prior to actually entering the Omega 4 relay).

Try this.

1. Take Jack with you, as one of your squaddies during the Oculus fight (giant sphere in the cargo hold).
     This will keep her safe until you reach the base.
2. Take Jack as one of your crew during both fights through the base. (make sure you use Samara for biotic bubble).
3. Use Jacob/Mordin to escort Dr. Chakwas & the rest of the crew.
4. For the final fight, take Miri & Tali.

If I'm right, Jack should have a high chance of survival with both Garrus & Grunt in the remaining squad. (that you don't take to the final boss fight)

Just make sure you keep that save, in case I'm wrong.
I'm going off memory here, but I did have an earlier playthrough with a disloyal Jack & still kept everyone alive. (I think this is how I did it)

I know what to do for the SM. And for my next playthrough I think I'll have EVERYONE loyal. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

mereck7980 wrote...



I don't think so.  Just because Shepard and Miri are in the process of developing a relationship when this encounter occurs doesn't change the fact that Shepard is responsible for the welfare of the whole ship and its crew.  And Miri knows this as much as Shepard does.  You making a call to break up a fight is in no way a slight against Miranda.  Shepard realizes he needs to step in and if your Para/Rene score is high enough he can do that without picking one crew member over the other.  Group dynamics sometimes require an overt show of equality like this.  The fact that Miri thanks you for stepping in after Jack leaves confirms she understands you aren't coming down on her.  

Would I suffer a certain consequence if jack isn't loyal in ME3? Would she try to kill Miri?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 05:58 .

[mereck7980]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

mereck7980 wrote...



I don't think so.  Just because Shepard and Miri are in the process of developing a relationship when this encounter occurs doesn't change the fact that Shepard is responsible for the welfare of the whole ship and its crew.  And Miri knows this as much as Shepard does.  You making a call to break up a fight is in no way a slight against Miranda.  Shepard realizes he needs to step in and if your Para/Rene score is high enough he can do that without picking one crew member over the other.  Group dynamics sometimes require an overt show of equality like this.  The fact that Miri thanks you for stepping in after Jack leaves confirms she understands you aren't coming down on her.  

Would I suffer a certain consequence if jack isn't loyal in ME3? Would she try to kill Miri?

Assuming she survives the SM there is a pretty good chance they could have some kind of confrontation.  Miri symbolized Cerberus to Jack, and if you didn't complete Jack's loyalty mission she doesn't deal with the Cerberus related problems in her past.  So, it is resonable to assume she might come looking for some payback agains Cerberus in ME3 and if so Miri would make an excellent target.  

Personally, in the 6 ME2 playthroughs I completed I always managed to maintain the loyalty of all my squadmates and I never lost one during the SM.  So, I am really excited to see all the possible character interaction permutations in ME3.  Jack & Miranda is a pretty interesting one to me.  So is Ash & Miranda.  

Modifié par mereck7980, 20 juin 2011 - 06:07 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

ALRIGHT!!!! jack will stay loyal. BUT, that doesn't mean I have to talk to her after her LM.

I hope jack will lighten up and LEAVE Miri alone in ME3. Miri QUITS Cerberus and had NOTHIN todo with what happened to her and jack has to realize that.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 20 juin 2011 - 06:13 .

[AstronautN7]

Not sure that was posted already: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1839558/
Yvonne Strahovski is listed in Mass Effect 3 on IMDB.

I don't know if that's reliable though.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

AstronautN7 wrote...

Not sure that was posted already: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1839558/
Yvonne Strahovski is listed in Mass Effect 3 on IMDB.

I don't know if that's reliable though.

THAT'S SOUNDS LIKE GOOD NEWS TO ME.:O:O:O^_^^_^<3<3<3<3

[Vertigo_1]

AstronautN7 wrote...

Not sure that was posted already: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1839558/
Yvonne Strahovski is listed in Mass Effect 3 on IMDB.

I don't know if that's reliable though.

IMDB is basically Wikipedia: www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf

While we actively gather information from and verify items with studios and filmmakers, the bulk of our
information is submitted by people in the industry and visitors like you

While we know for sure everyone from ME2 is coming back in ME3 we still don't have concrete proof that Yvonne will be back to VO Miranda, although chances are pretty high.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 20 juin 2011 - 06:28 .

[gutty47]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
While we know for sure everyone from ME2 is coming back in ME3 we still don't have concrete proof that Yvonne will be back to VO Miranda, although chances are pretty high.

Not putting voice actors on multi-game contracts would not make sense.

Fretting over whether Miranda will be voiced by Yvonne or not is simply wasted energy (and worrying over whether she'll still be modelled after Yvonne makes even less sense).

[Ieldra]

Juls1616 wrote...

jtav wrote...

40% of our enemies are Cerberus. They're a huge part of the game. Miranda is connected to Cerberus. Therefore she has a strong connection to major plot thread and a large role is justified. Am I 100% certain? No. But I'm confident.

I agree MIranda is going play an important part, especially now that she quit Cerberus and probably has some unfinished business with the Illusive Man

How many times must I repeat that she only quits Cerberus if you (a) destroy the Collector base and ( bring her with you to the final boss. I'd say that would amount to 25% or less of all players' games, or 63% of the playthroughs of Miranda fans (assuming that the percentage is the same for the Miranda fans as it is for the whole player base).  Which means it's not canonical (unless Bioware makes it so for ME3).

I have no doubt Miranda will eventually not be Cerberus in ME3, and certainly not part of the faction that's hunting Shepard (if it is but a faction), but it's quite possible she's still in the process of breaking away, and I think she still believes in Cerberus' goals as of ME2. She's shown she has limits in her tolerance of ruthless methods to get results, but that's about it. We don't even know if Pragia has changed her views, since the only time she talks about it is when she denounces the Teltin facility as a rogue cell. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 20 juin 2011 - 07:24 .

[ForgottenWarrior]

I wish to see Miranda join to Shepard and Aliance in ME3. I believe it is possible.Made a retex of miranda's armor,  because i can't wait for ME3. I hope you enjoy. social.bioware.com/project/4794/ 

 
 
 

[ViSeiRa]

In my last "perfect" playthrough for ME2, I used a modified Coalesced.ini to maximize my paragon and renegade points at the Cerberus facility at the start of the game, and from there on I made choices that reflect my Shepard's state of mind and the situation at hand regardless of affiliation, that way I was never handicapped by the system and made the choices that fit every situation... needless to say that'll be my canon Shepard, who romanced Miri, and is neither a paragon or a renegade, being fully paragon and fully renegade really killed role playing especially when romancing Miri, since neither quite fit her character or my Shepard's

[Alsaris5]

Out of all the characters to choose from for a LI, I prefer Miri to the others. She is most definitely a badass teammate and XO, especially when combining her abilities to one of my own for a biotic character.
But what intrigues me the most is her medical file in Lair of the Shadow Broker stating that she is unable to have children? Perhaps a conversation piece or a loyalty quest involved there somewhere? Myself and some mates used to make jokes about romances in ME1 and 2 ending with, if not a marriage to at least one player, maybe the child of the famous Commander Shepherd!

[LuxDragon]

ForgottenWarrior wrote...

I wish to see Miranda join to Shepard and Aliance in ME3. I believe it is possible.Made a retex of miranda's armor,  because i can't wait for ME3. I hope you enjoy. social.bioware.com/project/4794/ 

 
 
 

Holy crap. That's beautiful...

And you even got rid of her visor so we can see her lovely, lovely eyes.

Can I critque though? The blue is a litte 'too' blue. Any chance you can make it a few shades lighter?

[Jebel Krong]

<< wonders if they cloned miranda to make the female elite "ninja" cerberus operatives, using "daddys" template...

also wondering if they couldn't do something similar for shepard (perhaps using reaper tech). fighting "yourself" could be either epic or awful...

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[ViSeiRa]

Alsaris5 wrote...

Out of all the characters to choose from for a LI, I prefer Miri to the others. She is most definitely a badass teammate and XO, especially when combining her abilities to one of my own for a biotic character.
But what intrigues me the most is her medical file in Lair of the Shadow Broker stating that she is unable to have children? Perhaps a conversation piece or a loyalty quest involved there somewhere? Myself and some mates used to make jokes about romances in ME1 and 2 ending with, if not a marriage to at least one player, maybe the child of the famous Commander Shepherd!

  I think I'm one of the few people who don't want her infertility to have a cure, coming to terms with how she was created might be an important theme in ME3 and her infertility further presses the fact that nobody's perfect, no matter how he/she was created, if they make something cheesy like finding a cure it'll greatly undermine her imperfect perfect character... I want that part of her to be the reason she's always the best, the reason she always tries harder, and the reason she always comes first, not some hindrance, or better yet, make it the reason she comes to terms with her origins, if her perfect genes can't cure her and are the reason for this said condition they maybe her genes aren't the reason for all of her accomplishments as well. 

[Rawke]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

ALRIGHT!!!! jack will stay loyal. BUT, that doesn't mean I have to talk to her after her LM.

I hope jack will lighten up and LEAVE Miri alone in ME3. Miri QUITS Cerberus and had NOTHIN todo with what happened to her and jack has to realize that.

Jack? Lightening up? Yeah, right...

It doesn't make a difference whether Mrianda quits or not, she'll never be Jack's favourite. I doubt she'll actively look for Miranda to kill her, and vice versa. Just wasted energy.

  I think I'm one of the few people who don't want her infertility
to have a cure, coming to terms with how she was created might be an
important theme in ME3 and her infertility further presses the fact that
nobody's perfect, no matter how he/she was created, if they make
something cheesy like finding a cure it'll greatly undermine her
imperfect perfect character... I want that part of her to be the reason
she's always the best, the reason she always tries harder, and the
reason she always comes first, not some hindrance, or better yet, make
it the reason she comes to terms with her origins, if her perfect genes
can't cure her and are the reason for this said condition they maybe her
genes aren't the reason for all of her accomplishments as well.

+1

Modifié par Rawke, 20 juin 2011 - 11:08 .

[jtav]

I don't want her infertility cured either. It's not the flaw I would have chosen, but let it stand now that it's here.

[atheelogos]

jtav wrote...

I don't want her infertility cured either. It's not the flaw I would have chosen, but let it stand now that it's here.

It makes no sense. They can rebuild Sheps entire body from nothing, but can't fix Miranda with all of the advanced tech they have?....<_<

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...
 and I think she still believes in Cerberus' goals as of ME2.

I think there's an high possibilty that she harbors doubts regarding Cerberus' goals after the SM. When questioned about them early in the game, she'll answer "advancement and preservation of humanity". But in the Collector Base, The Illusive Man talks about "domination".

ForgottenWarrior wrote...

I wish to see Miranda join to Shepard and Aliance in ME3. I believe it is possible.Made a retex of miranda's armor,  because i can't wait for ME3. I hope you enjoy. social.bioware.com/project/4794/ 
"snip"

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I mean no offence, you did a great job. It looks really good.
It's just that... Miranda in Alliance colors.... She's better than that.

Modifié par MisterJB, 20 juin 2011 - 11:56 .

[jtav]

I think Miranda still believes in Cerberus' goals as she understood them. What's changed is that she now no longer believes Cerberus shares those goals. If her belief in human advancement goes out the window, I'll throw up in my mouth a little.

So, what do we think will carry over regarding Miranda? My list:

Survival (obviously)
Resignation (probably simplified to what you did with the base)
LI status
Whether you spoke with Oriana or not

[GuitarShredUK]

MisterJB wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
 and I think she still believes in Cerberus' goals as of ME2.

I think there's an high possibilty that she harbors doubts regarding Cerberus' goals after the SM. When questioned about them early in the game, she'll answer "advancement and preservation of humanity". But in the Collector Base, The Illusive Man talks about "domination".

ForgottenWarrior wrote...

I wish to see Miranda join to Shepard and Aliance in ME3. I believe it is possible.Made a retex of miranda's armor,  because i can't wait for ME3. I hope you enjoy. social.bioware.com/project/4794/ 
"snip"

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I mean no offence, you did a great job. It looks really good.
It's just that... Miranda in Alliance colors.... She's better than that.

So, would you have Miri as more independent/possibly TIW position? To be honest, as long as she's by my side and leading from the front to save humanity I don't really mind so much as to where she is with her "employer" as it were  

[Ieldra]

atheelogos wrote...

jtav wrote...
I don't want her infertility cured either. It's not the flaw I would have chosen, but let it stand now that it's here.

It makes no sense. They can rebuild Sheps entire body from nothing, but can't fix Miranda with all of the advanced tech they have?....

Indeed. It makes no sense. But for the sake of story and character development:

I want Miranda to be able to pass her gifts on. Preferably involving not a classic cure, but a technology like her father's. She would be able to have children with Shepard just not the natural way, and it would show that she's come to terms with how she was created and that it doesn't matter how children come to be if they are only loved.