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[Ieldra]

SpaceinMind wrote...

Can never have too much Miranda...

Aahhhh.....one of my favorites.

[SpaceinMind]

Ieldra2 wrote...

SpaceinMind wrote...

Can never have too much Miranda...
*snip*

Aahhhh.....one of my favorites.

Mine as well, she looks exceptionally beautiful in this one. 

Modifié par SpaceinMind, 22 août 2011 - 07:20 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

What makes it likely?  I think its pretty unlikely, knowing what TIM knows about Reaper indoctrination, that he would allow the person being brought back to fight them to be implanted with this dangerous tech.

Well, there is a certain arrogance about the man. A certain hubris, one might even say. So, he would do it thinking the technology could be mastered. And he might be right, but perhaps only to a point. Clearly, he sees Reaper tech as potentially the way to defeat the Reapers (Collector Base decision, dead Reaper husk), and there is even a certain logic to that notion.

He would do it if it turned out Shepard couldn't be brought back without Reaper tech. If he really thinks Shepard is irreplaceable, that makes sense. No arrrogance about it. I still hope it isn't true though. Bad enough that Shepard has cybernetic parts enough that a VI can hack him and influence his perceptions, we don't need Reaper artifacts added to the mix.

Apart from that, I agree with TIM insofar that understanding the Reaper's technology (if not necessarily using it ourselves) is a necessary condition for a decisive victory. But that's another topic.

[Skullheart]

Leaving some Miri screens.

This one is from Jack RM. Even if i can't see miri too much, i like the kind of' 'action' that can be apreciated.



And here's something from the shuttle.

Modifié par Skullheart, 22 août 2011 - 08:10 .

[nitefyre410]

Ieldra2 wrote...



@nitefyre:
Yes, I hate the infertility as well. I have put together several reasons why it should be reversible or circumventable rather easily. Refer to the Miranda Lawson FAQ. It's a little outdated now with the new information about ME3, but the reasoning about the infertility stands.

 


I don't  hate per say as more of - "Holy ****" that kinda  sucks for her character  given how she was  brought into the world its actually pretty plausable . Still I like all the info I found out in the Shadow Broker Lair its cool to see some of the all the cast outside of what you see in the game ... and Like I theorized early on ...  Leigon and EDI I knew it.  

[Andrewand]

I would freaking PAY MONEY to see those


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[Ieldra]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
@nitefyre:
Yes, I hate the infertility as well. I have put together several reasons why it should be reversible or circumventable rather easily. Refer to the Miranda Lawson FAQ. It's a little outdated now with the new information about ME3, but the reasoning about the infertility stands.

 
I don't  hate per say as more of - "Holy ****" that kinda  sucks for her character  given how she was  brought into the world its actually pretty plausable.

It isn't. There is no reason why a genetically engineered woman should be "perfect" in everything else but flawed in the one thing that could perpetuate that "perfection", of all things. It's just a common trope, or rather a combination of them, a fallout of science often being seen as bad if it touches the stuff of life. I don't need to mention that I hate that combination of tropes, right? It's especially annoying that it's applied to Miranda since genetic engineering is so common in Alliance space. Miranda's creation wouldn't even fall under the Sudham-Wolcott Genetic Heritage Act of 2161 - she doesn't have any completely new, so far non-human traits. Her enhancements can be said to be desirable for everyone.

BTW, that's also the reason why I think Miranda should come to embrace what she is instead of rejecting herself because of it. That her father damaged her self-esteem with his emotional abuse is the main thing I'd like to call him out for.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 août 2011 - 09:04 .

[The Elder King]

Ieldra2 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Mr Plow wrote...
oh God - if it's something like Shepard has Reaper tech in him and the only way to stop the Reapers is that Shepard has to interface/join with the Reaper Failsafe Device and sacrifice himself
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I really hope not. I have a brother who'll play ME3, he'll be pissed if I break the CD.

Won't happen. At least it will be an avoidable option. Recall how Casey Hudson answered to a question about romance conclusions? "We have pretty much everything covered". If "everything" doesn't cover the most-wanted scenarios where Shepard and his/her LI survive, I'd be extremely surprised.

I know that there will be various options to finish the game, but I'd like to try in one playtrough to make Shepard sacrifice himself against the Reapers. But if this type of epilogue his linked to the theory that Mr Plow posted, I'll never try it.

[Ieldra]

hhh89 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Mr Plow wrote...
oh God - if it's something like Shepard has Reaper tech in him and the only way to stop the Reapers is that Shepard has to interface/join with the Reaper Failsafe Device and sacrifice himself
snip

I really hope not. I have a brother who'll play ME3, he'll be pissed if I break the CD.

Won't happen. At least it will be an avoidable option. Recall how Casey Hudson answered to a question about romance conclusions? "We have pretty much everything covered". If "everything" doesn't cover the most-wanted scenarios where Shepard and his/her LI survive, I'd be extremely surprised.

I know that there will be various options to finish the game, but I'd like to try in one playtrough to make Shepard sacrifice himself against the Reapers. But if this type of epilogue his linked to the theory that Mr Plow posted, I'll never try it.

Though it didn't happen to Shepard, Elyvern's post-Reapers fanfic Degrees of Inheritance features something very similar as one thing that was necessary to defeat the Reapers. Posting the link here since this is also one of the best MIranda-themed fanfics in existence. Chapter 6 (of 7) is currently in the works. 

[Arijharn]

I don't think Mr. 'Lawson' has really damaged her self-esteem at all really. She may have doubts due to her creation and therefore her 'place in the world,' but at the same time she's very confident, and confidence I think is a pretty hard thing to 'fake.'

[Sebby]

I'm currently doing a definitive playthrough of my pseudo-canon 100% pro-Cerberus femshep and I've decided to roleplay a rivalry between her and Miranda for TIM's attention and appreciation. I picked the dialogue option that accuses Miranda of being jealous that she's no longer TIM's favorite for that purpose.

[Arijharn]

All one step closer in your master plan to get into TIM's pants?

But... that wont happen. He's got super model space babes to worry about, sif he's interested in cybernetic space valkyrie's (Too Human flashes!)

[Eski.Moe]

Just hoping we see more Strahovski and less trollface in her ME3 model.

[Arijharn]

I think ME3's new lighting and shadow system should alleviate most of the issues with Miranda's face, more so if she has the new hair system too imo.

[flemm]

He would do it if it turned out Shepard couldn't be brought back without Reaper tech. If he really thinks Shepard is irreplaceable, that makes sense.

Regardless of the perceived arrogance or stupidity of the gesture, the point being: it's potentially in character for TIM to use Reaper tech to ressurrect Shepard.

[Sebby]

Arijharn wrote...

All one step closer in your master plan to get into TIM's pants?

But... that wont happen. He's got super model space babes to worry about, sif he's interested in cybernetic space valkyrie's (Too Human flashes!)

Oh she'll end up with TIM no question about it and If Miranda turns her back on him and Cerberus in ME3 then things will be getting very ugly for her...

[Ieldra]

Arijharn wrote...
I don't think Mr. 'Lawson' has really damaged her self-esteem at all really. She may have doubts due to her creation and therefore her 'place in the world,' but at the same time she's very confident, and confidence I think is a pretty hard thing to 'fake.'

I would like to think so, you know....but "The only things I can take credit for are my mistakes" is rather indicative, especially since apparently the usually clear-thinking Miranda doesn't realize how wrong she is when she says that.

@Seboist:
How will you manage that with the way Cerberus is set up in ME3?

@Arijharn:
ME3 has a new lighting system? Where did you get that information?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 août 2011 - 11:48 .

[Sebby]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Arijharn wrote...
I don't think Mr. 'Lawson' has really damaged her self-esteem at all really. She may have doubts due to her creation and therefore her 'place in the world,' but at the same time she's very confident, and confidence I think is a pretty hard thing to 'fake.'

I would like to think so, you know....but "The only things I can take credit for are my mistakes" is rather indicative, especially since apparently the usually clear-thinking Miranda doesn't realize how wrong she is when she says that.

@Seboist:
How will you manage that with the way Cerberus is set up in ME3?

I haven't a freaking clue but i'll find a way. I'll be playing through ME3 with my ambivalent to Cerberus canon Shepard first.

I'm very worried with how Cerberus and TIM will be portrayed in ME3. Miranda not supporting keeping the base and those who did making a complete 180 were very bad omens of what's to come...

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I think Miranda is relatively safe from being indoctrinated. VS and Liara not so much.

Why would you think that? I hope you're right, but I can't see a reason to say is relatively safe but not the others.

Meta-reasoing. Do you think they'd use something as dramatic as "indoctrinated squad member" on someone who isn't alive in all games? Besides it should theoreticakky hurt more to lose someone you've known since ME1.

[nitefyre410]

Arijharn wrote...

I don't think Mr. 'Lawson' has really damaged her self-esteem at all really. She may have doubts due to her creation and therefore her 'place in the world,' but at the same time she's very confident, and confidence I think is a pretty hard thing to 'fake.'

 

Confidence and Self-Esteem are two different things -  One ties to how well one  believes they can  do something and the other ties to ones value in oneself

She is very confident in her abilites but her  self esteem actually rather low because she  see's herself as nothing  of a tool - a means to  end.  Listen to how she speaks of the herself she talks as if she is  selling herself as a  Luxury car. 

[Mr Plow]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I think Miranda is relatively safe from being indoctrinated. VS and Liara not so much.

Why would you think that? I hope you're right, but I can't see a reason to say is relatively safe but not the others.

Meta-reasoing. Do you think they'd use something as dramatic as "indoctrinated squad member" on someone who isn't alive in all games? Besides it should theoreticakky hurt more to lose someone you've known since ME1.

Hmmm....that makes sense

*strokes chin thoughtfully*

Doing it to your LI would be quite the kick in the pants

[flemm]

Meta-reasoing. Do you think they'd use something as dramatic as "indoctrinated squad member" on someone who isn't alive in all games?

You could be right, but I'm not sure. I think it would depend more on what is planned for new (non-import) games. Logically, since everyone is appearing in the game, everyone will be alive in a new game. That's the most efficient use of resources, it's unlikely that BW would have all these different voice actors come in for a certain number of imported games only. Doubly so since a lot of imported games will want to do the SM "correctly" in any event.

Decimating the squad takes a lot of effort or negligence, so the game is unlikely to be designed with that primarily in mind. More likely the design starts with everyone in the game, and then adjusts for absent squad members in imported games.

With that in mind, I would think that no one is really safe. They are not necessarily going to have lots of characters making generic and bland appearances, where nothing significant happens to them. The game can always revert to "that character is dead" mode, whatever happens.

Modifié par flemm, 22 août 2011 - 01:26 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I think Miranda is relatively safe from being indoctrinated. VS and Liara not so much.

Why would you think that? I hope you're right, but I can't see a reason to say is relatively safe but not the others.

Meta-reasoing. Do you think they'd use something as dramatic as "indoctrinated squad member" on someone who isn't alive in all games? Besides it should theoreticakky hurt more to lose someone you've known since ME1.

That reasoning only holds if the premise is "indoctrinate someone". But what if it's part of a certain character's story arc. I'd say it would more likely be an element of Miranda's story arc than an element of another's. Which makes me worry since I do not want it to be.

BTW, playing another ME1 game. Some of the sidequests are really tedious. "Geth incursions." Sometimes I curse myself for being such a completionist, but the game doesn't feel done if I don't do everything.

[Arijharn]

Ieldra2 wrote...
@Arijharn:
ME3 has a new lighting system? Where did you get that information?

Just by looking at the footage, stuff like blooming and how shadow's work now are more 'hi-definition' than prior, there's actually a good youtube video that tries to portray the differences from memory.

[flemm]

BTW, playing another ME1 game. Some of the sidequests are really tedious. "Geth incursions." Sometimes I curse myself for being such a completionist, but the game doesn't feel done if I don't do everything.

Tell me about it. The main story of ME1 is really strong, but that's like six missions. Everything else is so dull and repetitive, with WAY too much time spent in the Maco. I'm bringing another character through myself, and I'm not really looking forward to the middle game.