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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#10201
Vertigo_1

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jtav wrote...

Oh, you guys still want screenshots? I just finished my ME1 game?


You meant ME2?
Yes!

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jtav wrote...
Oh, you guys still want screenshots? I just finished my ME1 game?

I still haven't got many screenshots with JeanLuc's mod. If you're using that, yes, I'd like screenshots.

#10203
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Shotokanguy wrote...
Miranda's (and, in a way, Grunt's) situation is kinda hard to grasp completely, since it's not something that can happen in our world. That's a good example of my dissatisfaction with how much time devoted to character interaction there was in ME2. I would've liked to get a bit more info on Miranda's upbringing and what sort of baggage she was carrying.

I can't really see it being relevant in ME3, and as a result, I really couldn't care less about her father. If I were Shepard, my thoughts on him would pretty much be "I don't give a rat's ass about that guy."

Not that I'm opposed to meeting him if there's a good story reason. We probably should, actually.

Oh, I wouldn't mind not meeting him. I was just thinking that since Bioware said they'd wrap up loose ends. They also said that sidequests would tie in to the main story. So....wondering how a sidequest with Miranda's father coutd tie in to the main plot. It probably won't happen if he's on Earth, but we can hope. 

#10204
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jtav wrote...

Apparently there were "I love Miranda" stickers at Gamescon, per a post on the Kaidan thread.



Awww! I want one! D:

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jtav wrote...
Apparently there were "I love Miranda" stickers at Gamescon, per a post on the Kaidan thread.


Dammit I want one. :(

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Just a couple to start. The rest turned out rather oddly. And I can confirm she doesn't smile at Shep when he wakes. It's her mouth shape.

Modifié par jtav, 22 août 2011 - 09:15 .


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miranda has to be in mass effect 3 is very important in the history was one of the favorite characters in Mass Effect 2

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jtav wrote...

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I always loved how she looks in that opening scene. That lighting and the backdrop somehow really work for her. ^_^

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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jtav wrote...

Question: Is the romance trigger "It's nice to see you smile" after the LM or does it come in the next convo? Trying to see how long I can postpone my decision.

The trigger happens in the "Kiss" conversation. You can choose "Glad I could help" after her LM and it won't affect the romance in the sligthest.

No, I don't think that's true. If I recall correctly, choosing "I'm glad I could help" closes off the romance. I know for certain you won't get the scene with Miranda touching Shepard's chest.

Edit:
And I am unable to kill the Rachni queen. *grumble*. It's a character flaw, I tell you.

Yeah, I've gone in with the intention of killing the Rachni Queen on a few occasions myself. Either I can't bring myself to do so, or I do, then feel so bad about doing it that I reload and free her.

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Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3? Q. is it a given that Miranda quits Cerberus at the end of ME 2 if you romance her? It's been awhile since I played the game, so I can't remember is she did.

I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back. Miranda was the best LI (in my opinion) in ME 2. Who agrees?

Modifié par The Everchosen of Chaos, 22 août 2011 - 10:42 .


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The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3? Q. is it a given that Miranda quits Cerberus at the end of ME 2 if you romance her? It's been awhile since I played the game, so I can't remember is she did.

I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back. Miranda was the best LI (in my opinion) in ME 2. Who agrees?


MEEEEE!!

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The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3? Q. is it a given that Miranda quits Cerberus at the end of ME 2 if you romance her? It's been awhile since I played the game, so I can't remember is she did.

I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back. Miranda was the best LI (in my opinion) in ME 2. Who agrees?


ME!!!!!!! Miri is my only in Mass Effect. No way am I going to lose her!:wub:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 22 août 2011 - 10:50 .


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LexieTheT-Rexy wrote...

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3? Q. is it a given that Miranda quits Cerberus at the end of ME 2 if you romance her? It's been awhile since I played the game, so I can't remember is she did.

I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back. Miranda was the best LI (in my opinion) in ME 2. Who agrees?


MEEEEE!!

 

"We know you seek  those  that soured the  songs of our mothers - when
the time comes our voice will join with yours  and our cresendo will burn the darkness away." 

- Rachni  Queen  in  ME 2  


TIM  is most like going to try to blackmail her with something or someone  to try to hold some influence  and Shepard  just going to do Shepard does best.

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The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3?



Hmmm... could be, I guess, but to the extent any teasing has been done, it seems like the Rachni will ally themselves with Shepard against the Reapers (nitefyre410 gives the quote above). We have heard that ME3 will deal with gaining the loyalty/allegiance of species, rather than individuals, so I would expect that the Rachni would be on the table as possible allies if you saved the queen. But that might create problems with someone else.


I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back.


Well, personally, I still think it's possible she may be on the squad for a big chunk of the game. Indoctrination aside, I don't see any outright betrayal in the cards. Possibly some situation where Miranda is pressured by TIM.

Modifié par flemm, 23 août 2011 - 12:18 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3? Q. is it a given that Miranda quits Cerberus at the end of ME 2 if you romance her? It's been awhile since I played the game, so I can't remember is she did.

I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back. Miranda was the best LI (in my opinion) in ME 2. Who agrees?


ME!!!!!!! Miri is my only in Mass Effect. No way am I going to lose her!:wub:


Actually BioWare said that freeing the Rachni Queen will have just plain old consequences...

If you did free her in ME1 an Asari on Illium gives you a message in ME2 from the Rachni Queen stating that the Rachni of the Rachni Wars were under the effects of indoctrination... in ME3 i beleive the Rachni will help in the fight against the Reapers.

#10216
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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

LexieTheT-Rexy wrote...

I have to say, this might be the best quote I have ever stumbled upon in Mass Effect.

*I'm playing Mordin's LM, ya 'know. Entering the hospital, when Mordin finds the human and tells Shepard that they're experimenting on humans*

Shepard: "Experimenting on humans is wrong! Stuff like that starts to make Cerberus seem like a good idea."

Miranda: "That will be going in my report..."XD I LOLed.

Not so funny when you realize what a hypocrite Shepard is here. Criticizing experiments on humans and then saying Cerberus, of all things, seems like a good idea....

As for Paragon and Renegade choices, my canonical choices are
(1) Save the Rachni queen
(2) Keep Feros viable
(4) Keep the Collector base.

All others I mix and match according to how i envision my Shepard, but these I almost always take. It's representative. Most of my Shepards end up Paragade or Neutral, though lately I'm playing more Renegade-ish ones.


Coincidently, we have similar canonical choices. It has been ages since I killed off Feros even if my particularly renegade Shepards, which frankly most are. I do tend to kill the Rachni however I only one file with the Collector base destroyed and it still is irksome. I simply cannot justify ever destroying it.

In any case, paragon dialogue on Mordin's loyalty mission is rather out of place. Shepard essentially calls him a murderer and adheres to the blind idealism mindset far too easily. Nonetheless, it is amusing how shocked Miranda sounds when Shepard makes that remark. It feels like she wants to scream, "Finally!" especially if you've been badmouthing Cerberus since you joined.


In ME3 the Rachni will help you against the Reapers.... in ME2 you run into an Asari that suggests that the Rachni were indoctrinated in the Rachni War and she later suggests that the Rachni will help..... please for your own sakes replay ME1 and change that decision. Also dont worry about further indoctrination.... if you notice anyone Shep ever helped or was ever around could resist the effects of indoctrination.

If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.

BioWare updated the posts with this link to 10 things you have to know before starting ME3 www.newsarama.com/games/10-must-know-facts-mass-effect-novels-comics-mass-effect-3-110707-1.html. These give you some clues about some of the story so far.... and it gives you a simple reason for not leaving the Collector Base intact. There is another more complicated reason why you should not keep it intact.... but I wont ruin the story for you by telling you. Bottom line ever since I beat the game the first time and even on my RENEGADE Shep playthroughs I wipe it off the face of the galaxy.

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 23 août 2011 - 03:25 .


#10217
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Omega4RelayResident wrote...
If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.


Pfft I counter your arguement with THIS
(Make sure to watch it all :happy:)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 23 août 2011 - 04:11 .


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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.


Pfft I counter your arguement with THIS
(Make sure to watch it all :happy:)


LMFAO, dude that was EPIC. Although I do agree keeping the base is bad, it was epic nonetheless.

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Giving the base to TIM always seemed like a less than intellegent idea. A person whoose done nothing but decieve Shepard and has every Cell he makes either fail utterly, get killed, go 'rogue'. Then you want to give advanced and dangerous technology to him and his group of winners?

I'd rather not.

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
has every Cell he makes either fail utterly, get killed, go 'rogue'.


I too dislike TIM but let's be fair, Cerberus is like the CIA. You only hear about it when they screw up.
I didn't expect TIM to invite Shepard to share a bottle of champagne everytime a Cerberus project he was not involved in was sucessful.

Modifié par MisterJB, 23 août 2011 - 04:20 .


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Well Lazarus succeeded and whoever built the SR2, also I would have to assume given their position, that they are generally more successful than not. Its just the stuff Shepard gets involved with that goes to hell. Though I think giving them the base is a bad idea regardless, you saw the damage a dead Reaper did, not gonna risk that again.

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Soverian(sp) and Legion both say that to use reaper tech keeps you on the path THEY chose.

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Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I'm just curious as to what you'll think about this situation. What if you never do Miranda's LM, but she still survives the SM. What do you think the relationship is going to be like with Shepard? (and what happens to Oriana) Miranda obviously knows about the upcoming threat, so I'm assuming she'll still want to deal with it in some way. There's just a lot of variables to consider, Cerberus, her father, state of sister, would she still seek or need help from Shepard?

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.


Pfft I counter your arguement with THIS
(Make sure to watch it all :happy:)


Okay...... I LMFAO at that vid..... You trolled me and trolled me well...... well done sir..... however I dont like losing debates...... so now here are the big guns bro

(WARNING THESE ARE SPOILERS BIG TIME)

1) Cerberus is a Reaper front.
2) Jack Harper, The Illusive Man has been Indoctrinated since the First Contact War.
3) Jack Harper has been leading Cerberus in the direction it was so that the entire Galaxy turns against humanity.
4) Colectror Base will alow the production of more Reapers to fight against us. Collector tech will be applied to indoctrinated Cerberus personel.
5) Paul Grayson was the equivalent of Shep until he was indoctrinated and transformed into a Reaper controlled "Terminator"
6) If I am not mistaken both Kahlee Sanders, and Gillian will suffer from your decisions in ME1. YOU DO NOT WANT THAT!

So there I win...... and BTW www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 23 août 2011 - 04:37 .


#10225
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Well I think the general idea was, if you didn't do their loyalty mission, their suppose to die, but BW seems to have backed down from that. So if you didn't do her LM, your relationship never grows, so I could see her, going back to Cerberus to get help, getting her sister. I mean she can quit Cerberus even if you don't do her LM, but then she dies, so there's no follow through. So that means if you don't have her loyalty, she cant quit, so I assume she goes back to Cerberus.