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[LuxDragon]

jtav wrote...





Just a couple to start. The rest turned out rather oddly. And I can confirm she doesn't smile at Shep when he wakes. It's her mouth shape.

Have to disagree with you on that. When Wilson talks, her mouth is decidedly in a frown, or at the very least, not smiling. That's a smile.

[MisterJB]

spiros9110 wrote...
What if you never do Miranda's LM, but she still survives the SM. What do you think the relationship is going to be like with Shepard? (and what happens to Oriana) Miranda obviously knows about the upcoming threat, so I'm assuming she'll still want to deal with it in some way. There's just a lot of variables to consider, Cerberus, her father, state of sister, would she still seek or need help from Shepard?

I theorize that Oriana will have been taken by Eclipse and that Cerberus will deem it too unimportant to bother with during the Invasion. So, Miranda could approach Shepard with a deal. He helps her rescue Oriana, she gives him intel on Cerberus.
Afterwards, she won't join Shepard.

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
(WARNING THESE ARE SPOILERS BIG TIME)

*snip*

You are presenting theories as facts. Stop it.

Modifié par MisterJB, 23 août 2011 - 04:38 .

[pancholonita]

 hey what part of that scene play out and Shepard embraced miranda

Modifié par pancholonita, 23 août 2011 - 05:25 .

[pancholonita]

 

that part of the game comes out

[Vertigo_1]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.

Pfft I counter your arguement with THIS
(Make sure to watch it all :happy:)

Okay...... I LMFAO at that vid..... You trolled me and trolled me well...... well done sir..... however I dont like losing debates...... so now here are the big guns bro

The video is a response to what you posted...the premise that you should 'shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3' as a result of keeping the base is as hilarious as watching TIM dance (which IMO is way better) when you blew it up.

To your 'facts' I refer to what MisterJB said:

MisterJB wrote...
You are presenting theories as facts. Stop it.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 23 août 2011 - 05:40 .

[pancholonita]

Edit:

That part  of the game comes out

[flemm]

I mean she can quit Cerberus even if you don't do her LM, but then she dies, so there's no follow through. So that means if you don't have her loyalty, she cant quit, so I assume she goes back to Cerberus.

It could be she quits regardless. Miranda actually has a bit of an easier time surviving the suicide mission while unloyal than the other characters, but it's still a pretty unlikely scenario (an unloyal Miranda surviving while holding the line).

So, in that case, she might quit, but you just wouldn't have seen it as the player. I would expect the main variable to be dead or not dead.

Re: destroying the Collector base, it's not as if those imported games are going to be screwed. Both decisions will work out, and both will probably have some unforeseen negative consequences.

Modifié par flemm, 23 août 2011 - 05:48 .

[Omega4RelayResident]

MisterJB wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...
What if you never do Miranda's LM, but she still survives the SM. What do you think the relationship is going to be like with Shepard? (and what happens to Oriana) Miranda obviously knows about the upcoming threat, so I'm assuming she'll still want to deal with it in some way. There's just a lot of variables to consider, Cerberus, her father, state of sister, would she still seek or need help from Shepard?

I theorize that Oriana will have been taken by Eclipse and that Cerberus will deem it too unimportant to bother with during the Invasion. So, Miranda could approach Shepard with a deal. He helps her rescue Oriana, she gives him intel on Cerberus.
Afterwards, she won't join Shepard.

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
(WARNING THESE ARE SPOILERS BIG TIME)

*snip*

You are presenting theories as facts. Stop it.

Theories?..... go read the books.....

[Arijharn]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...


If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.

So riddle me this; how are you going to attempt to counter the Reaper's biggest threats and mysteries if you... actually never mind. This is the Miranda support thread not the propaganda thread.

So what do you think of Miranda then?

[Arijharn]

LuxDragon wrote...

jtav wrote...

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Just a couple to start. The rest turned out rather oddly. And I can confirm she doesn't smile at Shep when he wakes. It's her mouth shape.

Have to disagree with you on that. When Wilson talks, her mouth is decidedly in a frown, or at the very least, not smiling. That's a smile.

I have to agree with Lux here, during the intro sequence when she's peering down at shep she does do a small smile, but to me it's more like: "you'll be alright... just ignore your shallow breaths and your stabbing chest pain and your own incredulousness of 'omg, where the hell am I and who the hell are you?'"

Or maybe she only does the smile thing if you're playing a male? Now that would be interesting and yes that means I've never ever played femshep.

[Skullheart]

I have to say that she is definitely smiling. But it isn's a simple smile, is a Mona Lisa smile. One more reason to like Miranda.

[Spanky Magoo]

This video givs me a little more hope starting around 2:04

Modifié par Spanky Magoo, 23 août 2011 - 07:35 .

[MegaBadExample]

Spanky Magoo wrote...



This video givs me a little more hope starting around 2:10

When he says 'cry' I hope he means tears of joy.

[Spanky Magoo]

MegaBadExample wrote...

Spanky Magoo wrote...



This video givs me a little more hope starting around 2:10

When he says 'cry' I hope he means tears of joy.

Hopefully, Ive had enough unavoidable tradgedy in games lately. lol

[ParadoxAu]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
Pfft I counter your arguement with THIS (Make sure to watch it all )

Funny Video, I still think of Jonathan Cake everytime i hear the voice in that trailer though.

Vertigo, You're our resident twitter expert, Do you know if Casey has seen the thread size recently? His reaction back on page 65 was intrigueing; I'm curious as to what he'd think of it now. I'd check myself, but I avoid Social Networks like the plague. (I use BSN strictly as a forum, So it doesn't count!)

Modifié par ParadoxAu, 23 août 2011 - 08:02 .

[Ieldra]

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...
Well didn't bioware say that there would be negative consequences for freeing the Rachmi Queen in ME 3?

No, they didn't say anything about negative consequences. They only said it would have consequences.

Q. is it a given that Miranda quits Cerberus at the end of ME 2 if you romance her? It's been awhile since I played the game, so I can't remember is she did.

Miranda quits Cerberus if (a) you take her with you to the final boss and ( destroy the Collector base, regardless of loyalty or romance. How that will affect ME3 is anyone's guess. Most of us here think that she won't be with Cerberus no matter what, except if they manage to coerce her, for instance by blackmailing her with her sister's safety (which is so obvious that I hope it won't happen and that she'll relocate her sister in the time between ME2 and ME3). Or she might be with Cerberus for a reason of her own. But whatever happens, I don't think she'll be the Cerberus Loyalist anymore.

I really want Miranda at my side whatever happens, I really hope she doesn't betray me for TIM or something or if she does, we get the option to win her back. Miranda was the best LI (in my opinion) in ME 2. Who agrees?

LOL - you are in the Miranda thread, did you really expect anything but a barrage of agreements? She's the most interesting character in the games overall and the LI that fits Shepard best, the only one who potentially plays in the same league. Whether or not her romance is the best written, that's another matter. There is significant disagreement even among her fans.

As for betrayal, I'm reasonably certain it won't happen, though her actions might appear that way at first. Miranda is good for the unexpected.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 08:51 .

[Sebby]

Miranda's abrupt "resignation" from Cerberus made her lose a lot of points with me or rather the writers' less than stellar characterization of her did.

If she was a consistent Cerberus loyalist "space Morrigan" she may have cracked my top three favorite ME2 squadmates list instead of taking the number 4 or 5 spot.

[Ieldra]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
In ME3 the Rachni will help you against the Reapers.... in ME2 you run into an Asari that suggests that the Rachni were indoctrinated in the Rachni War and she later suggests that the Rachni will help..... please for your own sakes replay ME1 and change that decision.

Yes, she promises her help. But apparently there also will be Rachni husks if the queen survives. While Shepard will likely win his fights no matter what, the impact this will have on the big picture remains to be seen.

Also dont worry about further indoctrination.... if you notice anyone Shep ever helped or was ever around could resist the effects of indoctrination.

I don't know the exact source, but IIRC they said indoctrination will become a problem and that it might affect members of your team.

If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.

LOL, really? Apparently you have played ME3, or how did you come up with that figure of 85%? Also I won't go back on a decision that appears right at the time when I make it. Whatever TIM's other motives, you couldn't expect that he won't support you against the Reapers, it is his own ass on the line after all. He works for his vision of protection and advancement of humanity, and whatever that is, at some point it must come down to the protection and advancement of humans.
Also, in an interview Mac Walters said that TIM "is still very much himself" and that he wasn't an enemy all along, which means he isn't indoctrinated and isn't allied with the Reapers.
And lastly, apparently he has proven that it is possible to understand Reaper technology. We might have a harder fight against Cerberus on our hands, but there's the possibility that we'll get a greater understanding of the Reapers once we've taken them down and examine their databases.

I do not doubt that keeping the Collector base will have some negative consequences. Whether they outweigh the positive ones, that remains to be seen. 

OK, now away with this off-topic topic If you want to talk about this, please read this post and respond in that thread.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 08:22 .

[Melra]

Morrigan is one of most annoying and boring BW characters, I don't understand how people even compare her to Miranda.

And what's with the constant whining about her resignation? Oh please, haven't we been going through this for over two hundred pages already? Come up with something new or say nothing at all.

[Ieldra]

spiros9110 wrote...
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I'm just curious as to what you'll think about this situation. What if you never do Miranda's LM, but she still survives the SM. What do you think the relationship is going to be like with Shepard? (and what happens to Oriana) Miranda obviously knows about the upcoming threat, so I'm assuming she'll still want to deal with it in some way. There's just a lot of variables to consider, Cerberus, her father, state of sister, would she still seek or need help from Shepard?

There is no way to know. If you never do her LM, that might mean she still doubts your motivations like at the start. On the other hand, you will have proven your competence to her and your willingness to fight the Reapers and their servants. I'd say for fighting the Reapers, she'd still be an ally, since everything else would be stupid. As for turning to you if she's in some kind of trouble, maybe not.

It's very hard to say. But then, I don't care. I always do Miranda's LM, even in my femShep games where I don't romance her. 

[Ieldra]

Skullheart wrote...
I have to say that she is definitely smiling. But it isn's a simple smile, is a Mona Lisa smile. One more reason to like Miranda.

What can I say - you're absolutely right. It's a Mona Lisa smile. I never notived the similarity before.

[LuxDragon]

I like that: Mona Lisa smile..

[Ieldra]

LuxDragon wrote...
I like that: Mona Lisa smile..

I've always thought Miranda has an enigmatic smile in that scene. But I never made the connection...

[SandyWB]

Has anyone one the PC tried using a mod that makes Miranda a blonde? If so, did it look good?

I really liked her as a brunette back when when I played the game for the first time, but a year or so after I started watching the show Chuck on TV, and I realized just how good Yvonne Strahovski looks as a blonde. Now I'm a bit torn as to what look I prefer on her. Canon-Miri is still a brunette, but like all ladies, she has the option to spice things up with a new haircolor.

[Melra]

SandyWB wrote...

Has anyone one the PC tried using a mod that makes Miranda a blonde? If so, did it look good?

I really liked her as a brunette back when when I played the game for the first time, but a year or so after I started watching the show Chuck on TV, and I realized just how good Yvonne Strahovski looks as a blonde. Now I'm a bit torn as to what look I prefer on her. Canon-Miri is still a brunette, but like all ladies, she has the option to spice things up with a new haircolor.

She doesn't look good. It doesn't fit at all, imo. Yvonne looks great in all hair colours, but Miranda looks best as brunette.