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[flemm]

jtav wrote...

As cold as it sounds, it would probably cause a breakup if she still wanted children because it's not really the sort of thing you can compromise over.

There may be more to it that Miranda simply wanting children in the standard sense. Psychologically, she may perceive her apparent sterility as a sign of her defectiveness, or incompleteness as an individual. Proof that there is something fundamentally "wrong" with her. Anyway, we'll see. It's teased pretty heavily in LotSB in any event, like it or not.

Modifié par flemm, 23 août 2011 - 07:07 .

[Melra]

I still don't think it should be completely excluded, just optional.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Another Yvonne Avatar that constantly catches my eyes!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 août 2011 - 07:09 .

[The Uncanny]

Melrache wrote...

I still don't think it should be completely excluded, just optional.

The option of alluding to something potentially taking place after the credits rolled would be fine. I just think it’s a whole big mess that I wouldn’t want to see Miranda’s time in the narrative being used up by.

Modifié par The Uncanny, 23 août 2011 - 07:11 .

[PMC65]

*sparklers in hand* " Melrache, Melrache *dancing around with sparklers now as Miranda watches*



 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

PMC65 wrote...

*sparklers in hand* " Melrache, Melrache *dancing around with sparklers now as Miranda watches*



 

This is one of my favorite shots of Miri.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
No children. No mention of children. I don't want them in real life. I certain;y don't want them in-game.

jtav wrote...
As cold as it sounds, it would probably cause a
breakup if she still wanted children because it's not really the sort of
thing you can compromise over.

The Uncanny wrote...
Same. I really wouldn't want that foisted on me, thanks.
There is quite enough to get through during ME3 without having that to deal with all of that anyway.

Exactly.
I'd like a hint that her infertility might be reversible, but only in the epilogue or a pre-epilogue conversation like in DAO, as one option among several. In the game itself, leave me alone with the family stuff. I certainly don't want a Miranda who canonically wants children.
(I'd also like an option that she'd use the technology developed by her father to circumvent her infertility. But like everything else, only around the epilogue)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 07:21 .

[flemm]

I would certainly be tricky and potentially messy to bring it into a narrative like ME3 will likely be, basically dealing with a huge alien invasion and extinction scenario.

[ViSeiRa]

I have a question, does Miranda actually think about leaving her current life and go have a "normal" one? (whatever a normal life means anyway) they say that the files in LotSB are not necessarily events that happened during ME2 and they might have happened prior to that, how old are those files anyway? Miranda spent two years on a space station putting Shep back together, why does she want a child if she's gonna keep working for Cerberus anyway, and she is at the time.

[enayasoul]

It should be left up to the gamers to initiate... you don't want it... you don't initiate it. Should be an option to the player. I was surprised when Shepard said that to Liara.  (marriage and little blue children) I was like. Wow, cool. But that is just me. Leave to those that want it. Just like initiating romances.

Modifié par enayasoul, 23 août 2011 - 07:26 .

[flemm]

Well, another thing dealt with in the files is Miranda communicating with her sister, and they are discussing Oriana's personal life. One could speculate that having children is part of the "normal," idealized life that Miranda is hoping Oriana will be able to lead.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

ViSeirA wrote...

I have a question, does Miranda actually think about leaving her current life and go have a "normal" one? (whatever a normal life means anyway) they say that the files in LotSB are not necessarily events that happened during ME2 and they might have happened prior to that, how old are those files anyway? Miranda spent two years on a space station putting Shep back together, why does she want a child if she's gonna keep working for Cerberus anyway, and she is at the time.

That's what I have been wondering as well. And I believe that deep down Miri does want a normal life, if with Shepard.

[Dr. Doctor]

The whole "Marriage, old age, and a bunch of little blue children" line works for the Liara romance because, Most- Powerful-Information-Broker or not Liara still likes to have a little reassurance that Shepard's planning on living through the Reaper War.

With Miranda on the other hand, I always choose the option of 'no promises' when the "don't die, you promise me damnit!" line comes up. Then again my cannon Shepard chose the "friends until all of this is over?" option in ME2 I'm really hoping that there's a continuation of that option in ME3.

[jtav]

A Miranda who wanted to have a normal life would horrify me. Wanting and having kids as fine--I just don't want them--but not at the exclusion of her work.

[ViSeiRa]

flemm wrote...

Well, another thing dealt with in the files is Miranda communicating with her sister, and they are discussing Oriana's personal life. One could speculate that having children is part of the "normal," idealized life that Miranda is hoping Oriana will be able to lead.

Yes, but does Miranda want this? you don't go sleeping around with people and -presumably- having unprotected sex in order to get pregnant while you're still working for an organization as Cerberus, we don't know what's Cerberus protocol for operatives who get pregnant.

I'm gonna assume the files in LotSB happened in chronological order, if Miranda didn't know she's infertile, why did she go around sleeping with random people?? was she planning on running again? what was going on her mind? these are questions that have great potential of alienating me (and I suspect many fans) away from the character.

Edit: Bottom line is, LotSB's files on Miranda are really messed up, I hate them.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 23 août 2011 - 07:36 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Dammit. It's as if liara is getting all the good treatment. What the hell is she, BW's mascot?<_<

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 août 2011 - 07:32 .

[Melra]

jtav wrote...

A Miranda who wanted to have a normal life would horrify me. Wanting and having kids as fine--I just don't want them--but not at the exclusion of her work.

Well Miranda isn't you, so... It doesn't really count. I am fine if she doesn't want them, but what I don't want is that it's cut out because some of the fans don't want it, even if it's optional end scenario.

[The Uncanny]

jtav wrote...

A Miranda who wanted to have a normal life would horrify me. Wanting and having kids as fine--I just don't want them--but not at the exclusion of her work.

Miranda is an exceptional woman destined to have an exceptional life. I'd prefer ME3 to focus on that. I'm not saying that children can't or won't be part of her life... but I'd be concerned if, with the Reapers attempting to wipe out sentient life, she got sidetracked from the bigger picture.

[jtav]

Melrache you misunderstand. I don't want kinds, therefore my Shepards don't want them. Going to be tension there.

[flemm]

Yes, but does Miranda want this? you don't go sleeping around with people and -presumably- having unprotected sex in order to get pregnant while you're still working for an organization as Cerberus, we don't know what's Cerberus protocol for operatives who get pregnant.

I'm gonna assume the files in LotSB happened in chronological order, if Miranda didn't know she's infertile, why did she go around sleeping with random people?? was she planning on running again? what was going on her mind? these are questions have great potential of alienating me (and I suspect many fans) away from the character.

I don't have any answers, obviously. However, she doesn't appear to choose at random. We can infer from the messages that she selects partners due to medical profile alone. It feels almost like she is experimenting. She wants data on them, and that's all she wants to know.

Modifié par flemm, 23 août 2011 - 07:43 .

[enayasoul]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

The whole "Marriage, old age, and a bunch of little blue children" line works for the Liara romance because, Most- Powerful-Information-Broker or not Liara still likes to have a little reassurance that Shepard's planning on living through the Reaper War.

With Miranda on the other hand, I always choose the option of 'no promises' when the "don't die, you promise me damnit!" line comes up. Then again my cannon Shepard chose the "friends until all of this is over?" option in ME2 I'm really hoping that there's a continuation of that option in ME3.

Yes, I chose 'no promises' option because it seemed to fit with how they both should approach the situation.  He did "die" before but this time seems to be an appropriate answer because you just never know... and my maleshep hugging Miranda was a plus.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

It's preference. We all have different things that we want. So you can't just say you want this, and expect ONLY what you want to happen.

Say for me. I want to have kids, but I have to respect what others want.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 août 2011 - 07:39 .

[Melra]

jtav wrote...

Melrache you misunderstand. I don't want kinds, therefore my Shepards don't want them. Going to be tension there.

Oh alright, that I can understand. I am not personally sure about the kids. I am not sure if I'll ever necessarily want any, but I don't want to ever rule out the possibility. Not even in ME3.

[Ieldra]

The Uncanny wrote...
Miranda is an exceptional woman destined to have an exceptional life. I'd prefer ME3 to focus on that. I'm not saying that children can't or won't be part of her life... but I'd be concerned if, with the Reapers attempting to wipe out sentient life, she got sidetracked from the bigger picture.

So much this!!!!!!

And can we PLEASE stop talking about children. I swear this topic is following me all over the forums. I don't understand this obsession.

I'd rather talk about what contribution Miranda might make to the "war effort", apart from potentially taking over Cerberus and such.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 07:47 .

[LiquidGrape]

Miranda talking about babbies as the galaxy crumbles around her would be the no-no for myself.
For one thing, it would likely be nothing but an utter melodramatic contrivance. But it would also be nothing but an utter melodramatic contrivance with connotations of Miranda not being "whole" until she's living the proverbial Full House.

If there's anything I loathe in fiction, it's the family unit being shoehorned into everything in the hopes of creating some kind of base emotional connection. I'd prefer it if the character could accomplish that herself without being the subject of some external tearjerking-device.