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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Melra

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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Miranda is an exceptional woman destined to have an exceptional life. I'd prefer ME3 to focus on that. I'm not saying that children can't or won't be part of her life... but I'd be concerned if, with the Reapers attempting to wipe out sentient life, she got sidetracked from the bigger picture.

So much this!!!!!!

And can we PLEASE stop talking about children. I swear this topic is following me all over the forums. I don't understand this obsession.


No. We shall prepare for the baby shower, I want pinkish curtains and all kinds of stuffed animals. So we talk about something -you- don't enjoy and you want it to be closed? And how was it, when quite few people got tired of talking about the CB? Just stay out, if you don't enjoy it. That's what I had to do. :innocent:

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flemm wrote...

Yes, but does Miranda want this? you don't go sleeping around with people and -presumably- having unprotected sex in order to get pregnant while you're still working for an organization as Cerberus, we don't know what's Cerberus protocol for operatives who get pregnant.

I'm gonna assume the files in LotSB happened in chronological order, if Miranda didn't know she's infertile, why did she go around sleeping with random people?? was she planning on running again? what was going on her mind? these are questions have great potential of alienating me (and I suspect many fans) away from the character.


I don't have any answers, obviously. However, she doesn't appear to choose at random. We can infer from the messages that she selects partners due to medical profile alone. It feels almost like she is experimenting. She wants data on them, and that's all she wants to know.


It doesn't seem random, but it doesn't seem rather selective as well, she just wants people with clean medical records, and I assume no history of genetic diseases, I know none of us have the answers to those questions but I really hope they either scrap LotSB's files, or they don't capitalize on them much.

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Agreed. Each of us have our own take or mass effect "storyline" we want to happen. Personally, My Male Shep wants to have a child with Miranda. He wants her to be happy. He wants to marry her deep down... whether or not she agrees that's left up to the imagination and story writers. If it doesn't happen in game so be it, I'll continue to write about it in a "fan fic".

It would be nice to see in game how they handle the whole issue of her wanting kids or not with Male Shep.

Yes, it would be the wrong time to have a child but it also raises the stakes of him making damn sure he protects her and his friends from the Reapers. Motivation and determination to rid the galaxy of the threat to their 'happy ending'... I hope they get. If Miranda tells him in an epilogue she's having his kid. yay...

I was surprised they (bioware) approached the whole baby thing in Dragon Age with Morrigan. My male warden told his friends he WAS going to track her down and find her. I have two version of him going with Morrigan in the portal and one staying behind. I hope we get to meet their child in the future stuff, if any.

But back to Miranda... I think the topic should be talked about between them. That's what you do in a relationship. And what 6 months - 12 months in game after "Arrival"? Seems like the point in a relationship where things do get serious and about what the future for them together.

Modifié par enayasoul, 23 août 2011 - 08:04 .


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LiquidGrape wrote...
If there's anything I loathe in fiction, it's the family unit being shoehorned into everything in the hopes of creating some kind of base emotional connection. I'd prefer it if the character could accomplish that herself without being the subject of some external tearjerking-device.


This and so much this.  I feel this in general, not just with Miranda.

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The irony is I wrote her having kids. But if I'm stuck identifying with Shepard, I don't want them. If she wants to be a single parent, run off with Jacob, etc. that's her business. I'd only come after the writers with the proverbial neat cleaver if she also stopped driving herself. She could take over dad's business or something.

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And can we PLEASE stop talking about children. I swear this topic is following me all over the forums. I don't understand this obsession.

I'd rather talk about what contribution Miranda might make to the "war effort", apart from potentially taking over Cerberus and such.


There's really no reason not to discuss it tbh, especialy since there is some info related to this already in the game. I can understand preferring that the focus be elsewhere, however, as far as Miranda's appearances in ME3.

Sometimes extra info like that is just dropped to get people thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if the issue is never raised directly at all.

If it is raised, I doubt it will be Miranda getting all weepy about it and prioritizing it over ass-kicking and other fun stuff, such as taking over Cerberus.

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jlb524 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
If there's anything I loathe in fiction, it's the family unit being shoehorned into everything in the hopes of creating some kind of base emotional connection. I'd prefer it if the character could accomplish that herself without being the subject of some external tearjerking-device.


This and so much this.  I feel this in general, not just with Miranda.


Thirded.

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enayasoul wrote...

But back to Miranda... I think the topic should be talked about between them. That's what you do in a relationship. And what 6 months - 12 months in game after "Arrival"? Seems like the point in a relationship where things do get serious and about what the future for them together.


No it is not, 6-12 months during a war are not enough for a relationship to get serious, I'm not sure any romance in the Mass Effect universe is qualified to be called a relationship yet, it's most likely they're not even together (not in the same place) after Arrival.

P.S. I left out the other part of your reply because that's your opinion and while I don't share it I still respect it.

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The Uncanny wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
If there's anything I loathe in fiction, it's the family unit being shoehorned into everything in the hopes of creating some kind of base emotional connection. I'd prefer it if the character could accomplish that herself without being the subject of some external tearjerking-device.


This and so much this.  I feel this in general, not just with Miranda.


Thirded.


Fourthed.

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ViSeirA wrote...
It doesn't seem random, but it doesn't seem rather selective as well, she just wants people with clean medical records, and I assume no history of genetic diseases, I know none of us have the answers to those questions but I really hope they either scrap LotSB's files, or they don't capitalize on them much.

Exactly. I hate those files just as much as you. Asked about this, some Bioware representative said that the information itself canonically exists in the world, but that it may be misinformation. I don't care if that's a cheap way out of things, this would be an acceptable solution.

@Melrache:
You appear to harbor some resentment against me. It's beginning to get annoying.

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ViSeirA wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
If there's anything I loathe in fiction, it's the family unit being shoehorned into everything in the hopes of creating some kind of base emotional connection. I'd prefer it if the character could accomplish that herself without being the subject of some external tearjerking-device.

This and so much this.  I feel this in general, not just with Miranda.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

THIS!

Keep the cheesy family stuff out of my epic SF dramas!

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 08:00 .


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Those who are saying otherwise about having children are sounding a bit cold. What about thse who want to see such an ending happen at the end of ME3. Other people want different this you know?

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enayasoul wrote...

It should be left up to the gamers to initiate... you don't want it... you don't initiate it. Should be an option to the player. I was surprised when Shepard said that to Liara.  (marriage and little blue children) I was like. Wow, cool. But that is just me. Leave to those that want it. Just like initiating romances.

This. Leave it up to the players. I for one wouldn't mind it, but I don't want to get her pregnant in-game (wouldn't want to go into the endgame concerned for Miranda AND unborn baby Shep). Confine it to the epilogue please.

Modifié par Td1984, 23 août 2011 - 08:10 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Those who are saying otherwise about having children are sounding a bit cold. What about thse who want to see such an ending happen at the end of ME3. Other people want different this you know?

I don't mind it as an epilogue  option, as I've said before.

But Miranda should not bring it up unless you do. And it should not be a topic in the game itself, only in an after-the-end conversation that might influence how the epilogue goes. I just hate the tendency to bring family stuff into everything - as if family were the only thing you could have an emotional connection to.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 08:11 .


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I would love to see Miri get pregnant either during the middle to end, or after the endgame then the Epilogue.

And why bring it up to her first? What if she was to bring it up herself?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 août 2011 - 08:12 .


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ViSeirA wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

But back to Miranda... I think the topic should be talked about between them. That's what you do in a relationship. And what 6 months - 12 months in game after "Arrival"? Seems like the point in a relationship where things do get serious and about what the future for them together.


No it is not, 6-12 months during a war are not enough for a relationship to get serious, I'm not sure any romance in the Mass Effect universe is qualified to be called a relationship yet, it's most likely they're not even together (not in the same place) after Arrival.

P.S. I left out the other part of your reply because that's your opinion and while I don't share it I still respect it.


And I thank you for respecting it.  :blush:  

That's true we really don't know if they were togather for the six months. I can only hope they were together and didn't all leave after the collector base or after arrival... 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see! :unsure:

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Hmm...too bad we can't have her in her loyalty outfit in this mission. The armor doesn't look that good here, but I don't want to put her in the white.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 août 2011 - 08:18 .


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Nice! I really am going to have to start contributing in the image department, I feel like others are really carrying the load where that is concerned.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
If there's anything I loathe in fiction, it's the family unit being shoehorned into everything in the hopes of creating some kind of base emotional connection. I'd prefer it if the character could accomplish that herself without being the subject of some external tearjerking-device.

This and so much this.  I feel this in general, not just with Miranda.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

THIS!

Keep the cheesy family stuff out of my epic SF dramas!


Sixthed! LOL

Looks like most of us here agree on this particular subject being discussed in the thread...

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If you read the books you would know that keeping the Collector Base is a very bad.... bad idea. In all honesty if you dont change that decision you might as well shoot your self in the head in the first mission in ME3 and spare yourself the trouble of a huge disapointment in the end of the game.... EVERY DECISION AFFECTS wether or not EARTH SURVIVES. There is an 85% chance to fail if you have made all the wrong decisions in ME1 and ME2. Once again not destroying the Collector Base is VERY bad for Shep.


Pfft I counter your arguement with THIS
(Make sure to watch it all :happy:)


This might possibly be the best thing I have ever seen.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I would love to see Miri get pregnant either during the middle to end, or after the endgame then the Epilogue.

And why bring it up to her first? What if she was to bring it up herself?


Because, it just wouldn't work for everyone that way. Shepard should bring it up, if player feels that way. I don't want to have a situation where it goes into ''Oh we'll have sum babies!'' when there's Reaper invasion going on, but if it's on epilogue I just don't want it to be some bland text that causes no reaction in me. I want to get little ''yay'' when I read the epilogue. :blush:

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That vid is pretty hilarious, actually, I didn't actually follow the link before.

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flemm wrote...
That vid is pretty hilarious, actually, I didn't actually follow the link before.

I'm getting the infamous "not available in your country". Youtube hates me.... if anyone knows a way around that I'd like to know.

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Who needs a silly base, when you can just Paragon punch your way to victory? <33

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flemm wrote...

That vid is pretty hilarious, actually, I didn't actually follow the link before.


I didn't even click on that video so I don't know.  

BUT melrache does have the most wonderful gif icon going on!  Could you see Miranda doing that...??? 

"Hey Shepard..." *flashes* :wub: